this would sure be a quick way to piss off half your fan base
this would sure be a quick way to piss off half your fan base
So Jim tressel is cold?
No, it's Jim Tressel's cold -- he's got a nose thing going on, and when it leaves, it's planning on joining the Lions' coaching staff.
Which is saying something. I'm pretty sure Jim Tressel's cold would go 8-4 in the AAC next year.
Would it really piss everyone off? I mean, depsite his shortcomings off the field, he was a hell of a coach...
Wow - must suck being a Lions fan when THAT thought is getting upvoted.
SOUL FOR SALE. SOUL FOR SALE. Bobby Petrino lives off fans like you.
Yes. It would tick off that many Lions fans. In fact, it would almost undoubtedly make me not care any longer about - even root against - a team that I have followed for over 50 years. Maybe it would be Mr. Ford's way of putting us out of our misery.
Petrino and Tress were totally different situations. Also Jim's vilolations were against the NCAA not the NFL. That being said, I don't think Jim would be a good offensive coordinator but it has nothing to do with his personal life.
It's the NFL. If you want to root for a team with absolute moral high ground, then look elsewhere. And Tressel broke the rules in the NCAA but I don't recall him doing anything patently immoral. I wouldn't call it selling my soul to want him as a coach if he can do the job.
He repeatedly lied and fostered a culture of win at all costs while hypocritically claiming to be a near saint. I guess you can debate whether that constitutes immorality but it certainly shows his true character is far from what he tried to portray publicly.
You can also debate whether such character traits are good bad or irrelevant to an NFL coaching position but I as a Lions fan would hate having him as a coach because I think he is lying POS and it would cause me to no longer be a Lions can regardless of his coaching ability.
I sincerely appreciate and respect your point, but in the NFL I am alright with a "win at all costs" mentality.* I'm not saying I idealize it, or seek it in the character of a coach, but I'm not immediately offended by it the way that I am in the NCAA, where many of these kids are looking for a role model or as the NCAA would put it, "going pro in something other than sports." I just don't think his behavior at OSU reflects on his ability to be a coach in the NFL, especially as a coordinator. You might question his leadership qualities, but I don't particularly care about his "character" unless he directly and intentionally harmed innocent people, which I am just not remembering.
*[barring some seriously egregious things]
Because in the grand scheme of things I don't think what Tressel did should define his character for the rest of his life? If I were taller, maybe I could ride a higher horse like the one you straddle. He broke the rules. Hypocritical rules, but still rules and he lost his job. Now it is considered selling your soul for giving a guy a second chance? Not everyone is perfect like you, Kanye.
When those transgressions took place at our most hated rival during a time when said rival completely dominated us... yes. That is selling your soul.
Rooting for Tressel in any way / shape / form is a travesty.
The Lions better not draft any Buckeyes then.
Yeah, because Spielman sucked!
Another shitty argument from you, buckeye TROLL.
Maybe you could argue that hiring Tressel would be akin to spending a high draft pick on a former Ohio State player with lots of talent but character issues. Still, as a coach you have much more 'reach' and responsibility over the team than one player (there are what - 10 coaches and 55+ players?). So I think that argument fails.
No way you could argue that "oh well let's just stay away from OSU altogether if we aren't willing to hire the Sweater Vest!" - that's a BS conclusion drawn by a simple mind.
No I was just implying that all Buckeyes have character issues. Jeez..
His teams wiped the floor with us because he was a better coach than Lloyd Carr or RichRod, not because Terelle Pryor traded a jersey for tattoos and weed. Get over it.
I did give him a second chance.
He blew it.
If you didnt know already, he did the exact same stuff at Youngstown State and was about to get caught until he jumped ship to Ohio State and left Youngstown in shambles fighting off the NCAA.
The guy is scum.
You're making him sound perfect for the NFL!
if he's is a decent guy or not. I hate him, along with anyone who employs him. If the Lions hire Jim Tressel I will turn from a 16 year season ticket holder to a pure Lions hater. That might be good for me anyway.
by the sanctimonious books he wrote while enjoying the laurels of a career built on cheating.
The man literally WROTE A BOOK about DOING THINGS THE RIGHT WAY. While he was breaking the rules of the governing body under which he worked.
He's a liar. He lied. A LOT. And he was caught. Repeatedly, unless you're a Buckeye fan. I think the things he did at OSU SHOULD stay with him for his life. The liar.
Also, I'm not a fan of this because I don't know that he's an offensive genius or a defensive genius. The Lions need someone who can straighten stuff out as a coordinator, and to tell you the truth, just because he was a great HC, doesn't mean he's going to make a great coordinator.
This coming from the user whose name and avatar are related to Kanye West.
"Yo Jim, I'm really happy for you, I'mma let you coach, but Bobby had one of the best moral transgressions of all time! One of the best moral transgressions of all time!"
I thought the same. This could save the hire of Caldwell for me. The Lions would have a good football mind at OC who is unproven at this level, but has potential upside. It's better than another stale OC hire that pretty much guarantees failure-mediocrity.
Edit: Fixed some strong wording.
The man is a liar and a cheater.
Those are positive keywords on an NFL resume.
Well, that seems like a pretty pointless, assumptive article that is using a baseless and generic tweet as a way to get page clicks...Yeah, the guy had an extremely insignifcant one season role with Caldwell, and Tressel likes the guy. That doesn't really mean much.
While were at it, we can go through every single coach who has had any association with Caldwell in the past and say "don't be surprised to see so-and-so in Detroit!"
I would think he would have been offered a collegiate job by now???
but I think that's only a 5 year deal, if memory serves.
The show cause penalty on Tressel stands until basically Christmas 2016, or somewhere around the holiday. If he were to be hired before then by an NCAA member, I believe the deal was that he would be automatically suspended for five games and not allowed to coach in any postseason game should the team in question reach the postseason.
"Don't be surprised if" is not a report, it's clickwhoring.
Not sure how he'd fit with Stafford's skillset
I have a ton of respect for Tressel as a head coach. He's great at setting up his system and managing a team and staff. But as an offensive coordinator? That's a bit odd to me. His teams were built on defense and a very vanilla offense. He had states numerous times that the most important play in football is the punt. That's a great way to think as the head man, but not an OC.
Good luck, Lions. You actually make my Jets look like a competent organization.
I think you're equating spread principles with chocolate and strawberry. His spreads were about as vanilla as they come. A power blocking scheme coupled with very, very rudimentary passing concepts. His offensive coordinator was Jim Bollman.
He moved to a gun based, multiple WR offense, but I didn't see any sophistication to it. I don't know how well that translates to the NFL.
Is one of the best play callers out there. He's a shameless liar and cheater, but one hell of a play caller. He always seemed to know just where to hit us.
With this I agree. But was he the play caller?
The one gripe I had with his offenses (and Michigan's inability to stop them) was actually predictability. He ran a QB draw out of an empty backfield on seemingly every 2-point conversion or critical 3rd and medium-to-short.
He called the plays at least from the time they unleashed Smith, and through the early TP years. Not sure about earlier in his career.
Tress was always an offensive coach throughout his career.
How exactly would that work with a gunslinger like Stafford? Tressel is a guy who would rather punt and play defense all day than play a down on offense.
I don't know where people are getting this idea from, it's just insane really. Tressel had some of the best offenses around from the time he had Troy Smith, until he was fired.
This reeks of click whoring.
Say what you want about his role in the OSU sanctions, but bottom line is Tressel's approach doesn't fit with the Lions personnel. This is a shotgun offense through and through.
Also, correct me if I am wrong but wasn't OSU's decade of success built mostly off of their usually fantastic defense?
Who the hell leaked this!?
from the players' perspective is the free tats.
Aside from that, do we really need another reason to not like the Lions?
Let the circus continue
Honolulu Blue sweater vest?
Tressel worked with the colts when Caldwell was there, and yes the Colts played a lot of shotgun then.
This would make it impossible for me to root for the Lions. Could be a leak by the Lions to test the fan reaction first.
My Lions fan brain and my UM fan brain are completely different. The head coach for the Lions could be a coke-snorting, cigar smoking, golf-cart riding doofus for all I care. Just win half your games baby!
I don't want him as the OC, but I'd chuckle if the Lions hired him just because of how much it would piss off all those Browns fans who wanted the Browns to hire him.
Sometimes, you gotta play to win The Great Lakes Classic. Sometimes that's all I have.
is a hell of a football coach and would be an asset to the Lions.
That said, that's not the style of football I want to see the Lions play.
Why worry about the prospect that half the fan base will be pissed off? It already IS pissed off. Or in my case, apathetic. Another coaching change. BFD. Bring on spring training.
His Wiki page is already changed.
Just killing it in 2014.
Who wouldn't kill for a Detroit vs Cleveland Super Bowl?
I don't really care. He's a very good coach, objectively speaking.
was to play field position, try to pin the opposition deep and capitalize on their mistakes. That might work against 18-22 yr olds, but in the NFL it's a QB driven points-scoring league. You won't win many games 17-3. Gotta score points to win.
Didn't Tress say 'the most important offensive play is the punt'??? If so, and the Lions make him the OC, they are DOOMED! Tressel scored big numbers on weaker opponents. You don't get to play YSU and Troy in the NFL.
This entire hiring fiasco is so typical of the Lions - don't get your first choice and take what's available and hope you can at least compete. WCF just wants butts in the seats. When they go 18-30 over the next three years you will all see how bad of a hire this whole thing is.
Tressel, more than any human I ever saw, exudes the personality and mannerisms of someone who sold his soul to beat archrival Michigan year after year after friggin year. To the point that we wanted Carr replaced (after a few of these beatings).
I think he will live in a special dark place in most Michigan fans' hearts for eternity. It almost like he had a secret mole that gave him a copy of Carr's playbook every season to study nights and weekends. Note how OSU fans nearly tear the stadium down with the echos of their cheering for a guy even though he sort of tanked the program for a couple of years.
It would be very weird if he was hired and credited with a lot of win for the Loins. We would not know what to do. I am a little surprised Tressel isn't already working in the NFL, then he could jump back to college someday if thats what he really wanted to do.
I'm so meh on the Lions anyway, I really don't care. I will go to their games for free but more for the novelty of drinking a beer and watching a live game. I'm betting a tressel hire would piss off a lot of fans.
What's not to like...he knows how to win! It's pro football fer god sakes!
Whoa! I said hire him for my 666 MGoPoint! Coincidence, I think not!
Bill Lazor it is.
As assistant OC? This guy was an awful coach at KSU! He may be OC if nobody else wants the job! 2-14 will soon be the record.
...I will not follow them again until he and the stench of him is removed. Been a solid, beleaguered supporter for 45 years.
Hiring Tress wouldn't piss me off at all, in fact I'd find it highly entertaining - more fun than the Caldwell hire, that's for sure.