Need Zetterberg to keep playing in his 08 fashion for the wings to have a shot at a huge upset.
OT: Red Wings vs Hawks Game 3 Open Thread
Would be nice to see Datsyuk put the puck in the net, too. Franzen & Filppula need to keep showing up.
I think this game sets the tone for the rest of the series. If the Blackhawks win convincingly I believe the series is over. However, if the Wings take it to the wire and/or win the game, I think the Wings have a great chance at taking the series.
Wonder which announcers are more popular around here
If I can't have FSD, I'll watch CBC.
CBC all day. NBC purposely dumbs down their announcers in my opinion for casual hockey fans. They also try to be a little gimmicky with phrases or sayings they have and things they try to do.
CBC by far. As someone said NBC intentionally dumbs down their play by play and commentators for the less knowledgeable American audience.
CBC but I put it on mute as soon as that blow-hard Don Cherry comes on. It's a shame because I like McLean.
haters gonna hate. Don Cherry has always supported the wings.
Bob Cole! I prefer watching CBC over FSD or NBC.
CBC is the shit.
Come on let's go Wings
This just in! Red wings were penalized for too many men on the ice during warm ups. Per Gary Bettman.
I wanna feed him a Louisville sandwich. /Redmondism
LGRW! Upgraded cable package to get playoff hockey today.
GO WINGS GO
<3 Karen Newman
On replay that sure looked like an elbow to Smith's head.
I was just thinking the same thing. Should've been a power play
Lets fucking go
Would like to see some play in the other zone. Ok guys. Thanks
Question: should anything within that play be a hawks penalty?
Cleary looked like he hit his face right on the corner of the goal
Dang, on the PK.
Typical NHL reffing; 3 missed calls so far. None of which were even close. Just fucking bullshit
sure they call the first infraction on the wings after letting 3 for the Hawks go..
If I were a hawks fan (which I'm not), I'd be embarrassed by the subjective refereeing. We can't even have a face-off without a wing kicked out, let alone get a slash or elbow call.
Good job, PK!
Just when we leave the western conference we start shit with Chicago. I'm gonna miss playing them.
we can start shit with Boston next season...
What a horseshit call on Abs coming up here.
Oh I didn't think about who we get to hate new...habs, leafs, bruins, rangers, crosby...I am pleased
Dang, no joy.
Because they're playing really hard--only a chance b/c the Black Hawks are better. Better than just a chance if Howard can continue his play.
I'm not upset with that period
Wings looked pretty good on the forecheck. PK did a good job. /takin'careofbusiness
decent period. got some good pressure near the end there
"There's a new level of hatred in this series" - hockey night in canada.
Solid, physical first period for the Wings.
D'oh, back on the PK early. Smith for holding.
Jesus stay out of the fucking box
we're not going to win if we can't stay out of the box
I miss Gary Thorn.
Another good job on the PK.
Timeout if we can freeze the puck.
a penalty kill any way you can get them. Keep up the aggression.
has no fricking clue where the blue line is. 3 chances to clear and he can't get it out.
HELL OF A MOVE!
Nyquist! What a move! 1-0!
Nyquist!!! What a move!!!!!
Great great move
Nyquist you beautiful bastard! WHAT A MOVE!!!!!!!
Yes yes yes!!!!!!
2-0! Let's keep it going!!!
Was just fun.
WAHHH CRAZY WHAT 2-0 WINGS
YES!!!!!!!! RUN THOSE PUNKS OUT OF TOWN!!!
One of my two favorite Sparties!
Great job by Eaves going to the net and Miller who jammed in the rebound.
Whoo! Lucky post save after the deflection off Kronwall.
Wow can't believe the res missed that cross check. It was so obvious I could see it out of the corner of my eye while watching the rest of the play.
Jeez, so much trouble clearing the puck.
This period is pretty fun
Quincey and smith are terrible. That is all.
What a great 2nd period. Gotta close it out now. Play solid D in the 3rd. Keep attacking, and no stupid turnovers or penalties.
That's the problem they have been facing all season. Young defenseman like the wings have are just bound to make these turnovers. We just have to minimize the damage.
Oh, come on! High stick, holding the stick, no call???
Smith back in the box.
Smith, you idiot! Dats had the puck, he doesn't need your help!
To be fair that Hawks player dove. He sold it very well.
Hawks have been setting that exact same pick all night and we get called for it. Eddie olczyk can STFU about the penalty. It was a complete dive.
PK has been awesome!
Jimmy Howard has been big today. Making up for the incompetency of Smith.
Great PK. great period. That said,
Please stay out of the box!
Great way to end the period. 20 minutes left
Whatever the turn out of this series and ultimately the season ends up being, this team has some serious potential for the future, and I'm definitely excited.
So strange being the more physical team. CBC guy said Wings lead in hits 26-16; Abs has 6, all of Chicago D 4.
watch anymore of the wings this postseason because I don't want to jinx it. The last three games I watched, they lost, so I'm taking one for the team and just checking espn for the rest of the playoffs. GO WINGS!
OK, can the Wings get their PP going?
President's Trophies don't necessarily amount to a hill of beans when playoff time comes around. Meanwhile, gotta love these young guys growing up right in front of you with every period.
The Chicago PK streak survives
FUCK! They score, 2-1. No call for boarding.
WTF was that? How do you know not call Franzen getting mugged!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God I fucking hate Patrick Kane.
Number one rule of covering the long ball: don't turn and try to back pedal. Two plays of poor footwork finally lead to a goal.
What a horseshit call. How the fuck is that not hitting from behind?
has been a penalty 9 out of 10 times during the season. And what is with these announcers basically openly rooting for Chicago, trying to say that wasn't a clear cut penalty.
if I were you, turn to the CBC. more pro-Detroit media.
Goal waved off.
With the way they've been calling stuff, Franzen almost definitely fits the "defenseless" critera in the boarding rule. I don't know why NBC is assuming people are confused about the no-whistle, but calling boarding in that situation was probably the correct thing to do.
Shanahan has some work to do tonight if the NHL is going to have a shred of credibility about protecting its players.
has called a penalty consistently throughout the season. It was clearly boarding, that is just as dangerous of a play as any hit that resulted in a suspension so far in the playoffs. The NHL picks and chooses when it wants to "protect players" it seems.
But only seeing it twice and not seeing the referees head/back referees position is going to make me hedge a bit on saying anything for certain. Again, I agree (and maybe "questionable" was the wrong word) like I said above, Franzen was almost defenitely "defenseless" by the common interpretation and boarding was probably the correct call.
Hawk loving NBC announcers.
What... The... Actual.... Fuck?
Sooo glad I get CBC.
Refs controlling the game now. They totally waived that goal off because they knew they fucked up the franzen call.
But a little justice on the back-end with the interference. Now, can we finally score on a PP?
Pavel says F*** YOU.
What a rocket
Pavel Datsyuk is amazing.
WOOOOOOOOO SUCK IT HAWKS
That may have been the biggest goal of the season thusfar. Hawks had all of the momentum for a while there.
but how hilarious is it that they can nullify a goal....but NOT call a penalty?
Right where Grandma keeps the cookies.
Kane took a big swing at Datsyuk's stick. I like his retort with authority.
Jeebus these Defencemen
I trust my eyes to Dr. Ramani. You should too!!
Can anyone explain why smith got the only assist there and Franzen didn't get one?
Franzen is listed now (on ESPN).
Our blueliners skate like my one legged grandmother
d-men or the Wings in general when they are leading a more talented team 3-1( should be 3-0) and have outscored them 7-1 in the last two games.
Well if you have watched them trip over their own feet countless times like I have this game then you would know why. Also I think Jimmy Howard has a lot to do with the lack of goals conceded over the last two games.
for the most part, what exactly do you expect? They still make mistakes like you would expect, but they are certainly more sound than earlier in the season. I also have no idea what two games you have watching if you don't think the defense has been better after game one, considering Chicago is the best offensive team in the playoffs.
The Wings have already overachieved this year, anything they do from here is gravy to me. This isn't the 1997, 1998, 2001 Wings, or 2008 Wings team, you can't expect them to play as sound as those teams. This team has given everything they have, to get to this point, they deserve alot of credit. We have been spoiled by the Wings over the years, this is the first Wings team that has had to overchieve.
I'm not sure why you are picking a message board fight, especially when all I did was comment on the fact that they kept falling down on their own? But you keep fighting the good fight.
I never said they weren't young, I never said they weren't playing better, I never said the wings haven't overachieved relative to where they were thought to finish the year. All I did was comment on their ability to stay on their feet while skating. Its obvious from your posts that I deeply offended you, so I guess I will apologize, and refrain from commenting on observations I make in the future.
don't see the point of insulting the Wings D-Men by comparing them to a grandmother, when they are overchieving given the opponent.
Just kind of baffled by some of the posts I see in these threads criticizing the Wing's young players for mistakes you would expect to see in pressure situations, considering the overall body of work in terms of overchieving to get this far.
So THATS what you have to do to get a trip to the box...
Okay, I don't know whether to award two points for a takedown, or give the Wings a 1st down after that tackle.
I feel like there's an NFL replacement referee joke to be had there somewhere, or at least would have been ten months ago.
Handzus with the horsecollar...that is a 15 yard penalty
on that PP than we did.
The refs have lost control *clap*
Silly Keith, it's always the retaliation that gets called
Well, we're playing pretty well. Now if we could just get that PP going in Game 4 and on, things will really be looking up.
Empty net. Save, Howard!
Good job by Dats on that pressure
Just a city boy.....
South Detroit is the best Detroit
That's about the ONLY time I can tolerate that song.
The hawks play like panzies if you ask me
So do they really throw the octopi into the Detroit River???
and yes they do
until one of them suffers a mutated gene, blows up, and attacks
Take it to 'em now!
Wow, they actually called crosschecking!
Bad lip reading from Quenneville: "Ice cream! With FUDGE!!!"
Thanks for finishing the game for the Red team.
Eaves just wants a hug.
Yeah! On to game 4 if they can just get off the damned ice!
Wings win 3-1!!!
Thursday is gonna be fun!
I love seeing the Hawks angry and frustrated. The refs helped them out all night and they STILL couldn't get it done.
I guess I'd be pissed too if I were them.
That goalie interference that called off the Chi goal was fairly questionable, albeit seemingly a make up call for the no call on Franzen getting hit from behind with Chi scoring their first goal on the ensuing rush. Overall I thought it was more or less evenly officiated.
Seemed to go the Hawks way early in the game and then the Wings way late.
Even if you add in the goal, it would have been Detroit 3 Chicago 2
But that would have changed the whole dynamic of the game. Comparable to the Burke block being called a foul with a few minutes left in champ game - sure we lost by 6 but those 2 would have made the finish completely different
really makes that a wash though.
I don't think the hawks can actually play well angry...
Just win out at the Joe and we have ourselves a ticket to the Western Conference Finals! Keep up the aggression Wings!
Wasn't Chicago supposed to be past the "We're losing a game, so let's start throwing punches" phase of their franchise? Instead this is just a repeat of the '09 Hawks so far
feel like game 4 is just as big now. Don't want to hand over home ice so we gotta put the stranglehold on in game 4
There's no way Shaw has anything beyond a 4th grade education.
I want a hockey night in a canada towel. Too bad they are extremely rare. Only players of the game interviewed by the CBC get them.
Ha ha, CBC just broke down the Datsyuk goal all the way from the defensive zone. Kane was close to Datsyuk back there, but he coasted down the ice, and Datsyuk skated and wound up all alone on the left wing.
Roenick is a terrible analyst. He's jump stumbling over his words.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
about that goalie interference call, it was a very bad call, but that no call on the Franzen play makes that a wash. Gotta love the Hawks getting pushed around physically, getting frustrated, and having to resort to cross-checks and boarding guys. First time in awhile I can remember the Wings frustrating a team with their physical play.
What was so bad about it? The guy was definitely in the crease giving Howard no room. I've seen Homer have goals waved off for less.
pinned in though. It looked like Howard still had enough room to make the save to me. Though looking at the rule, I would probally rephrase from very bad to questionable though, as you can certainly argue that he was impeding Howard to some degree. And yes Homer did have numerous phantom calls made on him based on his reputation, no disagreement with that.
Whatever the case it isn't revelant, Chicago had a goal given to them on a non-call, so it is wash, and they have no room to complain about the outcome. The team that deserved to win the game did.
The Hawks should worry more about the fact that the less talented team in the series is physically dominating them. Basically the Wings are doing to Chicago what some teams have done to the Wings in the past, all be it in a more clean manner than those teams.
I don't see what Kindl has to do with it - he wasn't pushing the guy into the crease.
him the oppurtunity to get out though. And the player being in the crease does not make it interference according to the rule. It is basically a judgement call if the goaltender was given enough room to make the save.
But like I said whatever anybody's opinion on that call is, the Hawks got a gift on the no call on Franzen so it is really irrelevant to the outcome. That is why Quenneville has no room to bitch about it, regardless of whether it was the right call or not.
Bull. The guy could have gone back out on the weakside the way he got in. And being in the crease on the puckside seems to me to be a pretty sure way to get a goal waved off.
does not automatically make it a no goal. It basically comes to a judgement call about whether the goaltender was given the room to make the save, if the player is not making direct contact with the goalie in the crease.
Upong further thinking after my initial post, I think it is a call that can be argued is technically correct, but is not a call that is not consistently made on that type of play. That second part is why Chicago had a problem with it.
Like I said though it is ultimately irrelevant, as the Franzen play has been called boarding all year and in the playoffs, and Chicago never would of gotten back in the game had that been called in the first place.
says that it's interference if the attacking player's presence impairs the goaltender's ability to defend his goal. I was surprised they called it, but I think the call was the right one in the technical sense.
It was 100% the right call. Don't need contact to be goalie interference. You just need to be in the crease on your initiative in a way that prevents the goaltender from maneuvering freely to make a play on the puck. Which Shaw did.
NBC is dumb, CBC rules, volume a billion.
But that's not the way people are used to seeing the rule applied. He was screening Howard with both feet squarely inside the crease (at least for a second, which I'm sure is when the referee went from looking at the action within the circle over to Howard and the slot), so it's tough to feel sorry for him, but I doubt very much that even the Wings on the ice felt they would get that call.
Reminds me of his daze in Colorado, can't win? Then goon it up. Yup Joel your behind the bench, you blow this one and Scotty will drop your sorry ass off the Navy pier.
Reminds me of when he was in St. Louis. Never could beat the Wings.
I pray I do not have to listen to Eddie Olcyzk another game in this series. If they have him up there it is only fair to have Mick there.
If you're in the Michigan area the games are usually broadcast on CBC, the Canadian channel. Hockey night in Canada is one of the true glories that come with Michigan residence.
One of the things I miss most now in Chicago. This was my first hockey season living away from MI, and Saturday night was definitely not the same without HNIC. At least CNBC was picking up the feed for some first round games.
HE TOOK THE MIDNIGHT TRAIN GOIN AAAANYYYYWHERRRRRRE....
by how well the Wings have played thus far. The two day break between now and Thursday could really help the Wings again with their legs. Not quite the same jump tonight as game 2.
could be a hell of a game if Chicago brings an edge and Wings match their play from game 2.
Chicago is just so damn good at keeping and moving the puck in their zone, so far the pucks haven't bounced their way in the last 2 games. Hope it can stay that way because I'm holding my breathe every time they have a sustained cycle.
Even if you're not a fan of the Wings, watching them execute a Box+1 is nothing short of great hockey. Even when they have so much talent on offense, if you can take away the player who the offense flows though the wheels fall off.
Wings 3rd and 4th lines owning the Hawks 3rd and 4th lines.
Hey Bickell,please cross-check the ref and give us another powerplay!
Duncan, Seabrook ,Keith, Brent. Wait thats only two guys? Well, you both suck!
Thursday night is our chance to put their head on the curb.
When I last checked if I got CBC-HD, I didn't. This game convinced me to check again and surprisingly I have it.
Goodbye NBC! Your analysis is horrendous.