Title saysit all, we're on NBC Sports tonight, trying to tie the record as well*.
*thanks Waggles, I mispoke in the first OP.
*to tie the record..
but how much does setting the record count given that shootout wins didn't exist back in the day. It is obviously still impressive, and a good sign if the Wings can get home ice in the playoffs.
Don't you use your fancy logic here, boy. This is the internet!
Eh, they can only do what they can do, and it's still a hell of an accomplishment. It'd be different if Babcock ripped his shirt off and had one underneath that said, BEST HOME TEAM EVAR or something, but that isn't going to happen.
Shootouts are not the only thing that have changed in hockey since back in the day. Equipment, players skill, and rules have all changed. One could argue that the Wings streak is more impressive considering the overall skill level of the league is much higher. Go wings.
Then why even call it a record? With anything in sports you can say it doesn't compare across eras. A shootout is more or less a coinflip to decide who gets an extra point.
I was saying that it would be just as impressive as the Flyers record in the 70s. I don't think the shootouts take anything away from potentially 20 straight home wins. Shootouts are hard to win and to win 3 of them during the streak only adds to it because of the unpredictable nature of them.
But back in the day those would have been ties, and thus streak-ending. The Flyers didn't even have overtime to break the ties. They had to win it in regulation.
You would be hard pressed to find a coach in the league who actually thought that winning shootouts meant you were a better team. At best it means you have a better set of 3-5 guys who can score on breakaways and a goalie who is lucky/good enough to stop them.
I see your point and tend to agree somewhat. However, the Flyers of '76 and Bruins of '29 or whatever year it was also probably weren't playing with their minor league goaltender in the last three games of their streaks. The fact that the Grand Rapids goalie won us the last 3 games makes it pretty impressive.
The Bruins played the same 5 teams approximately 4 times during their streak, all of which probably hated them. That's why I think their streak is the most impressive, it's not easy when if team you play is your rival.
Nice, Wings on the board first, up 1-0.
He's got an umlaut. That's royalty baby.
Some of the changes in the lockout were good, I don't love this one. Is that reviewable? If not, it should be, since the play creates a stoppage anyway.
I dont think they should review plays like that. It was nearly impossible to see if it hit the glass on that play, and I don't want hockey to turn into football where every other play needs to be reviewed. I'd rather leave it in the refs hands on the ice, and if they screw it up then it gives me something to complain about.
I'd like to see it become reviewable. Over the course of an entire season, it might get reviewed five times per team, and it's a call that results in an immediate stoppage and a penalty. Most of the time there's not any question, but you could tell the officials lost sight of it, and a second look would be warranted.
Nick Lidstrom is now second all-time in games played for the Wings.
I love Joe Louis Arena... if they ever build a new arena for the wings they should take these boards with them. They give a 'home field advantage' most other rinks dont have.
how about a new pp strategy here guys
ugh. joey if you can't handle the puck, stay in the net please. thanks.
Let's get the beers out.
Ugh, c'mon Joey
Lagunitas IPA is really good.
The trapezoid rule is one of the dumbest things the NHL has ever done, which is a loooooong list.
Anyone know of an online stream?
gotta keep your head up, or else youre gonna get kronwalled.
I love how everyone wanted to fight Kronwall, but it was a clean hit so they all had to go play hockey instead.
Dammit, they score.
Top shelf for Brayden Schenn. Joey Mac is going to have to play a little better for the Wings to pull this off tonight.
If we played them 6 times a year, I bet we'd come to hate the Flyers a lot. They're a bunch of headhunters out there.
We'll always have '97.
I think Eastern teams tend to have more goons than Western teams. There are more long standing rivalries (Boston-Montreal, Pittsburgh-Philly, and even the 3 New York/Jersey teams) that are generally more physical than a regular game.
Flyers score a lot of goals and there's a reason Joey isn't a starting goaltender. I knew they were going to make it hard on us to tie the record. Hopefully we can step up and get this win.
We can haz nother PPG?
There we go. Datsyuk's magic
Datsyuk = good at sports.
So close to the go-ahead goal
Thanks for bringing up old shit, "NBC Sports Network."
Dammit, they score again.
That shit was beautiful. Matt Read made that play happen.
Max Talbot with the goal. Teams are gettin goin.
That was Talbot's fault!
And we tie it again. If Jimmy was healthy we'd be winning this game. Hopefully we can pull this out.
Zetterberg with the goal. Huge to tie it up before the period ends.
What a hell of a game so far.
We want more PP goals!
The Shanahammer gonna have fun reviewing this game's tape.
MOAR PPGs plz!
gotta get better. drw are already playing playoff hockey, keeping the scoring chances down and playing good D.
Anyone got an update? No NBC Sports
2nd intermission 3-3
Regular goals OK too!
The Mule with the goal from Lidstrom and White. Great game right now.
Ohhhhh, Filppula hit the crossbar!!
Wide open net!
Abs with another block!
Woo, penalty killed!
When the puck is in the air, anything goes? It was ridiculous all around.
So you can push someone down on a breakaway and not get a penalty? Sweet!
I Guess it's just like shoving someone off the puck. He didn't trip him or anything, just guessing since I don't know the exact rules on that scenario.
I suppose it is just like bodying someone. If you're in good enough position, I guess it's cool.
Need to attck more, seems like they are just playing prevent.
Erricson with a nice play
Extra "attacker," let's get an ENG.
less than a minute! And the Flyers had to take a penalty! Looking good!
PP for the wings. This should just about do it.
What a finish. Nice job by the crowd, too.
Red Wings win! 20 in a row. Good game
Yay! 20 home wins in a row!!!
Congrats to the Wings!
Woooooo!!!!! Ties the record!!
Maybe not quite as impressive as the older streaks, but I don't think it'll get an asterisk in the record books. Still pretty impressive that the last few wins have been had with our backup goalies. Pretty cool. Now we need to somehow get this type of play on the road.
If you mean because the Wings won games in OT, overtime was around in the 1929-30 season when the Bruins had 20 in a row (10 minute OT period, not sudden death, final score at the end of OT was the deciding factor). When Philly did it there wasn't an overtime, but for both teams there was a significant advantage by only having a limited number of teams to play (and general lack of widely disbursed talent).
10 teams total in 1929, 18 in 1975. I think that makes it about a wash.
some people are factoring in the talent being more equally distrubuted across than league now, than it was before. With the exception of a couple of teams in each conference nearly every team is above .500, at the moment. So while the Wings have won some games in shootouts and OT, and I think like you said the competitive balance in today's NHL somewhat offsets that, when comparing it to those two teams streaks.
Regardless, it still is amazing streak in today's NHL. They still need to up their play on the road to certian degree, if they want to win the Cup.
I think less teams makes it harder, you're playing the same teams multiple times. You probably run into some of the best teams a few times. With a talent disparity between teams that means the best are even better compared to the rest of the league.
I guess it comes down to someone's personal opinion if a streak means more if it's against some really good teams and some really bad teams, or a bunch of more average teams.
Amazing. Great accomplishment for the Wings.
It's great to tie the record, but I'm more impressed they beat a solid team like the Flyers with Joey MacDonald between the pipes.
Joey Mac flubbed one, but was otherwise pretty darn solid. I think the Wings have their backup guy. Game-winning tic-tac-toe was really awesome. Two PPG also nice to see. When the Wings are moving the puck tape to tape they are an exceptionally dangerous team.
Jeremy Roenick went into the Coyotes Ring of Honor tonight, but he'll always be a Blackhawk to me.
Great game to watch..It was like a playoff atmosphere ...Epic..Let's finish it Tuesday ..Go Wings ...