OT: Red Wings - Hawks Open Thread

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OT: Red Wings - Hawks Open Thread

The last day of the season is upon us, yet so much left to be decided today throughout hockey. 

Red Wings scenarios:

Win and a Nashville loss in regulation means we host Nashville in the 4-5 matchup. (probably not going to happen).

Win and Nashville gets any point and we are the 5 seed travelling to Nashville.

Lose and the Wings head West to face the Pacific Division winner (a whole other story to be played out today) as the 6 seed.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if we tanked it today. I don't think we stand a chance against Nashville - especially on the road. But I think we could take Los Angeles or Phoenix in a best of 7 and perhaps build up some momentum in that series to carry us into the second round.

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April 7th, 2012 at 12:51 PM | Would way rather end with the (Score:2)
soupsnake
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Would way rather end with the 4th seed. Traveling out West round 1 obviously doesn't work well for us.

April 7th, 2012 at 12:58 PM | Agreed. But with Nashville (Score:1)
BOX House
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Agreed. But with Nashville playing Colorado today, I think it's unlikely they don't win that game. But I guess anything can happen in hockey.

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April 7th, 2012 at 12:53 PM | Just win, baby. I don't ever (Score:1)
Incredible Hoke
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Just win, baby. I don't ever want to see the Wings lose to the Blackhawks. 

HOKE SMASH.

April 7th, 2012 at 12:54 PM | Seconded.  Go Wings! (Score:1)
Flamebait
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Seconded.  Go Wings!

April 7th, 2012 at 1:12 PM | It's gotten so much worse since 2010. (Score:1 Normal)
justingoblue
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I grew up outside Chicago, and it was much better being a Wings fan when everyone wasn't a "lifelong Hawks fan".

I can deal with the shit talking from old hockey buddies just fine, but seeing "lol NEVER seen the Hawks lose to the Wings...Ears ringing from the Madhouse on Madison!!!" makes me want to do things I would regret when I woke up the next morning in a jail cell.

Go Blue!

April 7th, 2012 at 1:02 PM | Either way, we just need (Score:1)
goblueram
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Either way, we just need Nashville to lose.  I would take 4th or 6th.  Prefarably the 4 for home ice.  Let's go Wings!

April 7th, 2012 at 1:09 PM | Via Nightmare On Helm Street (Score:5 Normal)
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A simple flow chart showing who the wings will play first round depending on the outcomes:

April 7th, 2012 at 2:53 PM | Winner of the Pacific (Score:3 Normal)
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As the standings sit now, Phoenix is ahead of the San Jose/LA Kings by one point. The Kings play the Sharks today, so one of those two teams will be guaranteed 2 points to jump Phoenix.

Phoenix is in the driver seat to win the Pacific division. They play Minnesota, and with a win (or getting 1 point in an overtime/shootout loss due to the tiebreaker [wins - shoot out wins] depending on how the other game goes) they will win the division.

I said this in a thread a from few games ago and got 'flamebaited' real quick, but I don't mind the Wings losing this game and taking on the winner of the Pacific because I think any of those 3 teams would be a better match-up than playing Nashville as a 5 seed (despite San Jose taking us out the past few years).

April 7th, 2012 at 1:17 PM | NHL actually made a smart move (Score:1)
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Making all 30 teams play today may be one of the smartest moves the NHL has made in recent memory.  There are so many possibilities that can occur today and it insures diehard hockey fans will be tuning in all day.

Doesn't make up for the other dumbass moves they have made though.

"Those who stay will be champions" -Bo

April 7th, 2012 at 1:19 PM | Be careful what you wish for (Score:1)
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Mike Smith, the Coyotes goaltender, has allowed only 1 goal in the last four games. That team is on a roll and im sure it would be tough to knock them out of the playoffs for a third straight season.

April 7th, 2012 at 1:25 PM | Valid point. And the Yotes (Score:1)
BOX House
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Valid point. And the Yotes looked really good last night against St. Louis. They should beat Minnesota tonight, and clinch the Pacific. 

I'm not saying a matchup with Phoenix would be easy, just that I think we have a better shot against them in a best of 7 than against Nashville. I just can't see us beating Nashville the way we're playing.

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April 7th, 2012 at 2:00 PM | Well, we'll be playing them (Score:1)
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Well, we'll be playing them so get ready

 

 

"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch"

April 7th, 2012 at 1:24 PM | Big Rebound (Score:1)
weasel3216
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That is the type of shit that will doom us in the playoffs.

"Those who stay will be champions" -Bo

April 7th, 2012 at 1:24 PM | Big rebound (Score:1)
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Big rebound turns into a goal. C'mon Wings! 

April 7th, 2012 at 1:24 PM | It's almost as if there are (Score:2 Normal)
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It's almost as if there are too many games going on for me today. I'm watching Wolverhampton take on Stoke, got the Wings on, The Masters starts in a couple hours and the Tigers play today as well. Life could be worse though.

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
April 7th, 2012 at 1:32 PM | Filippula down... (Score:1)
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Curse of the injuries continues...Also, 0 shots on the PP. If that doesn't get fixed it may be another early exit for the Wings.

April 7th, 2012 at 1:34 PM | Phew. He's back. (Score:2 Normal)
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Phew. He's back.

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
April 7th, 2012 at 1:33 PM | Injuries can't be an excuse (Score:1)
redwhiteandmaize
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Injuries can't be an excuse anymore.

"Are you an official here?Because you've officially given me a boner."

April 7th, 2012 at 1:37 PM | I don't think it's an (Score:1)
bacon1431
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I don't think it's an excuse...just a reality. You don't get a break when you have injuries. But Franzen, Datsyuk, Helm, Cleary and Howard are not 100% right now. And those are some big players when looking at the Wings playoff chances. Detroit expects to go deep in the playoffs every year, injuries don't change that, but they certainly don't help the cause.

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
April 7th, 2012 at 1:41 PM | Highest expectations (Score:1)
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The Wings by far have the highest expectations every season for any major US sports franchise. 

 

"Those who stay will be champions" -Bo

April 7th, 2012 at 1:38 PM | Fippula (Score:1)
weasel3216
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By far his best season with the Wings, but just like the play a second ago, so many missed chances.

"Those who stay will be champions" -Bo

April 7th, 2012 at 1:41 PM | injuries are part of the (Score:1)
redwhiteandmaize
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injuries are part of the game.With all so called depth this team has this should not be an issue.Were missing 2 third line players and Eaves.No excuse for this.

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April 7th, 2012 at 1:58 PM | Where did I say otherwise? We (Score:1)
bacon1431
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Where did I say otherwise? We do have some young fowards that can fill in on our 3rd and 4th lines. But nobody in the league has the depth to fill in for a Datsyuk, Franzen and Cleary and Howard (McDonald is even injured right now). If we had players good enough to fill in for them, they'd already be on the team. Just a fact of life for the Wings right now. I won't blame a playoff exit on injuries. But I also won't deny that they played a factor.

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
April 7th, 2012 at 1:47 PM | I'm not looking forward to (Score:1)
redwhiteandmaize
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I'm not looking forward to the 10PM games that's why they need to pull this out.

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April 7th, 2012 at 2:02 PM | Come onnnnnnnn Zetterberg. (Score:1)
redwhiteandmaize
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Come onnnnnnnn Zetterberg.

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April 7th, 2012 at 2:05 PM | Wings don't look like they are even there (Score:2 Normal)
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Chicago is just taking it to us right now

"Those who stay will be champions" -Bo

April 7th, 2012 at 2:09 PM | Pav is too creative (Score:1)
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Pav is by far my favorite player, but sometimes i think he is too creative for the players on his line.  He does something that no one expects and it just leads to a turnover becuase no one is expecting the pass.  I guess this is a good problem to have though.  

"Those who stay will be champions" -Bo

April 7th, 2012 at 2:14 PM | I like how whenever the puck (Score:1)
exmtroj
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I like how whenever the puck goes on net, Mike Emrick just starts making loud noises

 

 

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April 7th, 2012 at 2:17 PM | Sad (Score:1)
weasel3216
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I am sad to say that he is also a alumni of BGSU

"Those who stay will be champions" -Bo

April 7th, 2012 at 2:19 PM | Chance wasted there, Franzen (Score:1)
exmtroj
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Chance wasted there, Franzen just seemed to stop caring and half-heartedly backhanded the puck at an impossible angle after just sort of lazily gliding right out of a good shooting lane. What in the world...

 

 

"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch"

April 7th, 2012 at 2:20 PM | Here comes the worst PP (Score:1)
weasel3216
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Seriously they are really bad on the PP

"Those who stay will be champions" -Bo

April 7th, 2012 at 2:22 PM | This second powerplay unit is (Score:1)
redwhiteandmaize
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This second powerplay unit is attrocious.

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April 7th, 2012 at 2:29 PM | Holy shit, this team fucking (Score:1 Normal)
exmtroj
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Holy shit, this team fucking sucks, this is getting ridiculous

 

 

"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch"

April 7th, 2012 at 2:29 PM | Shitty play in our own (Score:1)
redwhiteandmaize
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Shitty play in our own end.Hello Pacific division champs.

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April 7th, 2012 at 2:29 PM | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU (Score:1)
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Atrocious play today.

April 7th, 2012 at 2:32 PM | I despise Marian Hossa but (Score:1)
redwhiteandmaize
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I despise Marian Hossa but Franzen is getting there.

"Are you an official here?Because you've officially given me a boner."

April 7th, 2012 at 2:34 PM | Hello West Coast. The way the (Score:1)
BOX House
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Hello West Coast. The way the Wings are playing right now they are the probably the worst team in the playoffs momentum-wise, not really sure we're going to beat anyone in round 1. 

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April 7th, 2012 at 2:50 PM | Im going to say Yotes in 5 (Score:1)
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Im going to say Yotes in 5 with the Wings current play.

April 7th, 2012 at 2:39 PM | I guess we really want to play out West? (Score:1)
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I've never had such low expections heading into the playoffs with the Wings. Even the season they finished 5th or 6 they were playing out of their minds to get there.They worry the shit out of me. I guess it'd be better to play LA/SJ than Nashville on the road?

April 7th, 2012 at 2:49 PM | Right now (Score:1)
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they would be playing Phoenix.

April 7th, 2012 at 2:38 PM | Its Tigers time.My stomach is (Score:1)
redwhiteandmaize
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Its Tigers time.My stomach is upset from watching this garbage.

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April 7th, 2012 at 2:43 PM | Franzen's probably still (Score:1)
exmtroj
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Franzen's probably still valuable off of his past reputation, if anyone wants to pick up his contract we could get some value for him. Use it to put some depth on the bench so we don't turn into a Junior A level team overnight if someone gets hurt. Sure could use some speed and youthful intensity out there, too

 

 

"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch"

April 7th, 2012 at 2:56 PM | Haha. Why the hell are there (Score:2 Normal)
BOX House
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Haha. Why the hell are there like 100+ Nordiques fans at the Joe today? 

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April 7th, 2012 at 3:29 PM | Ken, and Paul were talking (Score:2 Informative)
WMUgoblue
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Ken, and Paul were talking about this on the radio today, apparently a lot of Quebec fans going to multiple games across the league today to show their presence and hoping for a franchise to return to Quebec City.

Blank.....Blank......You're not looking at the big picture here.

April 7th, 2012 at 2:56 PM | They played well (Score:1)
Evil Monkey
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In the 1st but have been getting outplayed sense then.

Go Blue!

April 7th, 2012 at 2:57 PM | I just started watching, so (Score:1)
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I just started watching, so maybe it's been answered. But what's with all the Quebec fans at the Joe?

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

StraightDave owes me a steak dinner

April 7th, 2012 at 3:07 PM | I'm a diehard Wings fan, but (Score:1 Normal)
snackyx
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I'm a diehard Wings fan, but I have to hope they tank this one...NO points, please.  Any series against Nashville, home ice or not, will be a major problem.  Lets take our chances out west, hoping that San Jose does not weasel into the third spot--our record against San Jose in the playoffs speaks for itself.  At least with LA or Phoenix we have a puncher's chance.

In ANY event, I simply do not see any way this team goes deep into the playoffs.

 

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April 7th, 2012 at 3:22 PM | Well, on to Nashville I guess (Score:1)
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Well, on to Nashville I guess

 

 

"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch"

April 7th, 2012 at 3:23 PM | RED WINGS!!! (Score:1)
GoBlue0420
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Come get some! Shame on the fair weather fans complaining earlier

April 7th, 2012 at 3:24 PM | Looks like Wings guaranteed (Score:1)
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Looks like Wings guaranteed themselves a matchup with the preds. Let see if they get home ice now...

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