very bad game tonight. no effort on defense. no effort on offense. i sometimes question howards play
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None of the goals tonight are on him, plus I think he's had only one bad game the past few weeks, in Calgary. If the Wings convert on any of their powerplays, especially in the first period, this may have been a different game.
Man, some people on here need to get some perspective. I know the Red Wings were a trendy pick to upset the Ducks, but c'mon, there's a reason they were a 2-seed and the Wings barely snuck into the playoffs.
The Wings were inconsistent all year on the blueline, had spotty forward play, and for the first half of the season our PP was borderline unwatchable. Exactly everything we saw tonight. Add on to the fact that the biggest reason we even made the playoffs (DeKeyser) is now out for 6 weeks, and yeah, we're gonna have an upward climb.
People around town somehow forgot the first 30 games of the season. It's a young team that does not have as much top notch talent as Anaheim. If Lidstrom and Stuart were still here, maybe this would be different, but they're not. That doesn't mention the free pass Ken Holland seems to get around town.
At least someone here has some decent perspective on this team. I love the wings as much as the next metro Detroiter, but come on people. This is a rebuilding year. To call a team that is a 7 seed rebuilding speaks to the quality of this franchise.
The Wings are do not have the depth on the blue line for a team composed of Cogs, Perry, Getzlaf and Teemu.
2 least favorite teams...Sharks and Ducks. Mainly because of their series against Detroit. Ugh, hate them. Go get them in Game 4.
It could be really bleak, and there's no telling how long it could last. Look at the two best teams in the league right now -- Chicago and Pittsburgh. What do they both have in common? They got good by being really terrible and getting high draft picks in multiple years. In Pittsburgh's case, they got really lucky in that they got two guys (Crosby and Malkin) who are once-a-decade type talents. But in the early to mid-oughts, both of those franchises were absolutely wretched.
There's no guarantee that high draft picks lead to future success. Just look at Columbus and Winnipeg/Atlanta. They have sucked forever.
they looked like the Wings of the first 30 games, which is almost exactly the time that DeKeyser showed up. His injury was massive for this teams chances.
Nothing like my fellow wings fans embarrasing themselves by blaming the refs. I am willing to bet none of you have played a second of hockey in your lives.
If you want someone to blame. Look at Ken Holland. He had the job of replacing Lidstrom and he did a terrible job. Especially when you look at it from the angle we depended on the recent WMU player Dekeyser to get us in the playoffs.
edit: How the fuck is this trolling? Wake up Wings fans. Not my fault I can see this situation without red and white glasses.
Suter and Weber. They chose Minnesota and Nashville. He offered great contracts to both of them.
I don't think Holland ever went after Weber, and Weber actually chose Philly, but Nashville matched the offer-sheet. Hence all the trade speculation around him
That's something I rarely say, and I definitely feel qualified to make that judgement, at the very least as much as anyone saying the referees were fine.
There's no reason anyone needs to have played to have an opinion on the game, and just makes the argument look weak. Look at softball, Patrick Murphy hasn't played an inning of softball in his life and won a national title last year.
Replacing Lidstrom was an impossible job. But if you ask me, Holland can be criticized for not getting more forward talent to work with in the free agent market the past couple of years. Holland has been sitting on a shitload of cap space lately for no discernable reason. Just to give you some perspective, you could swap out Dan Cleary or Valtteri Filppula for Alex Ovechkin or and still be under the cap.
the playoff streak in the offseason, so call me pleasantly surprised. I've been one of those guys that gives Ken Holland a pass, but not so much anymore. I kept expecting moves out of him coming up to deadline but he just shit the bed. Tootoo is what we got. Wow.
I hate to think of what it might mean, but I think the day is drawing near that the whole thing needs to be blown up and rebuilt.
It was a nice 20 year run but the reality is this team is in the rebuilding phase. I hope they have good scouts and coaches to get the team back to playing good hockey in a few more years. Only time will tell if they can complete the rebuilding process. All dynasty come to an end! I was too young to remember the glory years of the 50s. I was all excited when the Wings made the playoffs in '78 and we beat the Atlanta Flames. The wings were not that good back when I was a kid, the only thing we had was Reid Larson! but they slowly improved during the 80s.