OT - Recommendations for a New TV to watch Football
Mates,
It is time for us to buy a new TV. The old one works, but is 13+ yrs old and doesn't have all the features, bells and buzzers like the newest generations of TV's. We only have the TV hooked up during college football season, so whatever we get will see light duty for 3-4 months, then be dark for the rest of the year. Video games are not part of the equation for us, assuming people still play them on TV's.
General specs would be that it be in the 45-50" size range. I am looking at a Sam's Club catalog which shows a Samsung 48" 1080p Smart TV for $348. There's a couple of Vizio's "Class 4k UHD Smart Cast" TV's, and the 50" is $448.
So the question is: Given the specs and usage, what do you recommend for TV's and features in that size range? What is the most bang for the buck and the 'must have' specs?
Thank you in advance,
XM
EDIT: I want to thank the folks that have responded. This is exactly the content/discussio I was hoping for. Very helpful on all fronts.
4K is the new thing. Might as well get that.
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50" is really too small for 4k to matter. You would have to be just a couple feet away for your eyes to even be able to resolve the extra resolution over 1080p.
That said, the better TVs are all 4k now, kind of like 3D a few years ago. The sets with better picture quality will all be 4k whether you will to take advantage of it or not.
I have a Vizio 70" 4k UHD and like it a lot. The only complaint is there's a bit of motion blur on reds and skin tones, particularly in darker scenes. It's not really noticeable for sports, just dark scenes with people's faces that can smear a little with subtle movement. That's pretty nitpicky though, and a limitation of the LCD technology though.
Does anyone even broadcast in 4K?
Netflix, if you count that as broadcasting. All their originals and a few movies and shows are in 4k. Youtube has some stuff too, although quality seems subpar (too much compression). OTA 4K is supposedly around the corner though. With the increased installed base, cable and satellite will likely follow suit as well.
There is a reason that no networks stateside push 1080p signals, it's too demanding on their networks. If anything we may see select programing per channel get the treatment. It just doesn't make sense to broadcast everything in 4k.
No. And they aren't going to. It's a massively expensive upgrade for the video provider and supplier to get 4K video broadcast to your TV and since most TVs are in the 50" range you can't even tell much difference between 720p or 4K. Most people don't even broadcast in 1080p for the same reasons. Like ESPN for instance broadcasts in 720p.
All 4K really is, is a convenient marketing strategy that followed the 3D boom. It's nicely sequential. I'm sure they'll find a 5-something thing to promote in a year or two after 4K buzz has died off.
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because the first few guys nailed it. Buy the 1080p with at least 120hz native refresh rate, and you will be golden, on anything 55" and less. 4K is best for computer monitors, where you are sitting so close to the screen. Many experts have said you can't tell much if any difference on screens that are not 65" or larger.
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I'd go with 4k too if you can afford it. However I don't know if ESPN, or BIG Network will broadcast many games in 4k this year.
I have a 4k....not sure your cable provider though as some companies don't broadcast in 4k yet.
I didn't believe any major network is broadcasting in 4K yet. Netflix and Amazon prime are your current major 4K content sources.
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Total novice. If you have a 4K TV and the channel does broadcast in 4K is the picture crappy?
Again, no traditional channels broadcast in 4K currently. Regular HD looks exactly the same in on a 4K. The 4K content from Netflix and Amazon prime looks fantastic (especially nature shows). Football and hockey in 4K (at some point) will be amazing.
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I know Fox shoots the NFL in 4K but since none of the stations broadcast in that format it gets down converted, it's a waste for viewers, but when the change finally happens they'll have all those melt reels of highlights in 4K ready to go
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I doubt it'll happen anytime soon. The cost involved to develop the bandwidth and infrastructure to broadcast 4K is hugely expensive. Considering all the cable networks are pinching pennies, it ain't gonna happen. SD to HD was a government mandated shift. No one outside of marketers cares about 4K.
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You're absolutely correct. It took forever for the stations to move over to HD. It was a huge expense, and it hasn't even been 20 years yet since the changeover. It would take another government mandate to make them do it again.
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Plus SD to HD was a huge shift and a very noticeable shift. Much clearer picture and bigger picture. 1k/2k to 4K is really only noticeable on giant screans. And even then it's not that amazing in the way SD to HD was.
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Depending on the TV, it may upscale HD content to 4K, which could be an improvement over 1080P. The quality of the software doing the upscaling is determinative of the upscaled picture. The upscaler essentially doubles the pixels being displayed and uses an algorithm to calculate the type of the new pixels.
True, JClay, but it is only a matter of time that networks start doing it.
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the joy of living in the boonies. no idea what satellite carries in terms of HD capability.
Hey.. At least you have electricity.
when that electricity goes out. did that in the UP, too. a wise move up north.
...get the largest TV you can for the space, go with Samsung, go with the 4K (eventually it will pay off as programming catches up), get a smart tv (so you can stream Netflix directly onto the TV)....my 2 cents.
I would steer clear of any smart TV (if that is even possible these days). My smart TV is slow and clunky. All it does is make me wait extra time to startup the TV and bring up the menu to switch interfaces. I use a Fire TV with Kodi to supply my smart TB capabilities.
much slower...but are much better now....but don't work great if you are incorporating into a surround sound system for your home.
Correct no major providers have anything in 4k.. like already said Amazon prime and Netflix have great 4k options and look amazing. My TV upscaled to improve 1080p but it isn't a huge difference.
Content streamed in 4k over Netflix or Amazon are currently equivalent to a Blu ray disc quality. Separate 4k remastered DVDs look incredible
I'd certainly recommend a color TV.
but you knew that already.
don't think this one is HD...
That's....never mind.
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Do you wait for delivery each day until 3?
Go to Costco, good deals and can return without hassle if needed even years later.
They've since tightened up their return policy considerably. Too many people abusing the unlimited policy unfortunately.
Cool story, bro moment:
My friend's dad returned a used mattress two years after purchase and exchanged it for a new one just because he could.
So, yeah, they needed to tighten down their return policy.
Pretty sure the return policy is different on electronics than the other products in the store. However, there protection plan is quite a bit better than most competitors.
Make sure you get a "Smart" TV. It is great because I have it connected to the WiFi and am able to run Netflix, HBO Go, Youtube, and Watch ESPN directly on the TV with an HD picture. It is a Samsung 1080P 55inch if wanted the specs.
Or not pay the $100+ premium for a "smart" TV and instead get a roku stick for less than half the price that has far superior functionality to most smart TVs out there.
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Not sure if you are correct about the $100 premium, but everything else is spot on.
Every smart TV I've ever used has not been user friendly at all. Luckily I just use my playstation.
I concur on the smart tvs
I bought a 60 inch Samsung just before the Utah game last year. It is amazing
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It might have changed since I bought my most recent set two years ago, but at that time the advice was to avoid so-called "smart" tvs, especially if it cost any more. Generally they would cost in the neighborhood of $100 more, and be less reliable than roku or some other similar device, because the tv manufacturers didn't always provide software upgrades to their smart sets. Anyway, the idea was that you could get better service cheaper with an add-on device.
Idk.
I only paid like 800$.
I use YouTube on the tv all the time (kids stuff)
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That sounds like a great deal, especially with the features, including that it's a smart tv. It's not that a smart tv is a bad thing, it's just that "smart" should in no way be considered a necessary feature of any tv you buy, and you certainly shouldn't pay extra for it. A Roku, Fire Stick, Chromecast, etc. will be superior, expecially in the long run, to whatever smart features the tv manufacturer has added.
That sounds like a great deal, especially with the features, including that it's a smart tv. It's not that a smart tv is a bad thing, it's just that "smart" should in no way be considered a necessary feature of any tv you buy, and you certainly shouldn't pay extra for it. A Roku, Fire Stick, Chromecast, etc. will be superior, expecially in the long run, to whatever smart features the tv manufacturer has added.
Your first post gave great information. Your second post was pleasant and constructive in explaining your opinion
Ah so you're to blame for the outcome.
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LG 65" flat screen OLED. No need to buy a ticket because you're basically there.
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Couldn't agree more. I went with the 55" LG OLED and it absolutely blows away any TV on the market today.
This is the correct answer, but it would be a crime to only use it 4 months a year.
Except he is only using it 4 months out of the year.. so spending the additional 1500 isn't worth the oled.
Any model under that expect it to break within 5 years.