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OT: Raburn called Up, Smyly to DL, Possible Trade Coming?

The Tigers call up Raburn after an amazing .194 stint in Toledo and Smyly put on DL.

http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2012/06/detroit_tigers_to_recall_r...

There is also talk about a possible trade in the works...

http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2012/06/report_detroit_tigers_inte...

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June 14th, 2012 at 9:53 AM | The good news is Fister could (Score:2)
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The good news is Fister could start Saturday.

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June 14th, 2012 at 9:57 AM | Judas tap dancing priest. (Score:2)
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Why the hell can't we have nice things?

What exactly is Fister's ailment? That strained oblique or whatever from his first outing yet?

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June 14th, 2012 at 9:59 AM | Well sounds like we are in (Score:2 Normal)
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Well sounds like we are in serious negotions for a nice outfielder from the Padres

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June 14th, 2012 at 10:06 AM | I'm no baseball (Score:2)
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guru but what's the deal with Berry now? Is he going to be an every day LF or RF? Don't we need a ton more help in the infield? Why are we going after an OF when we have some competent OFs already? 

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June 14th, 2012 at 10:18 AM | Sounds like it might be a (Score:2)
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Sounds like it might be a multi-player/mulit team deal in the works...who knows what will come out of it. 

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June 14th, 2012 at 9:57 AM | Matt Dery and Karsch and (Score:2)
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Matt Dery and Karsch and Anderson's twitters are talking about possible trade rumors including Carlos Quentin, and Matt Garza, fwiw.



I guess the trade rumors are stemming from a closed door meeting that Leland and Dombrowski had yesterday.

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June 14th, 2012 at 9:58 AM | Raburn (Score:4 Interesting)
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Increased his batting average about 25% in Toledo...deserves some kind of recognition.

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Touchdown Billy Taylor!

Touchdown Billy Taylor!

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June 14th, 2012 at 9:58 AM | Raburn? No thanks... (Score:5 Normal)
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June 14th, 2012 at 10:03 AM | This just shows you how little position player depth (Score:1)
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there is in our farm system.  And frankly the pitching depth isn't all that great either.  Outside of Verlander, where are all of the power arms DD has drafted?  Sure, some have been traded away, which is useful, but most of those prospects never did much with their new teams either other than Jurjens who is no longer in the majors. 

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June 14th, 2012 at 10:41 AM | You don't really 'get' how a (Score:4 Normal)
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You don't really 'get' how a baseball draft works do you? Not every player pans out. DD has done a great job drafting arm, relative to the odds.

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June 14th, 2012 at 11:18 AM | Maybe he has (Score:1)
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I think the bigger argument should be DD's philosophy on drafting period. Instead of drafting positional players we draft pitchers who supposedly throw 95 mph. Seems similar to the Raiders repeatedly drafting the "fastest" player every year. The lack of positional players that are worth a shit in this system is extremely alarming.

Denard Robinson......They're not going to catch him!

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June 14th, 2012 at 11:30 AM | That analogy would (Score:2 Normal)
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That analogy would work.....if the raiders then traded Darius Heyward-Bay for Andre Johnson. You realize we trade those can't miss prospects (who usually don't pan out) for actual position players, right? I would take an Edgar Renteria every now and then if it meant we would get Cabrera and sign him for 10 years.

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June 14th, 2012 at 11:56 AM | Point taken (Score:1)
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We traded Maybin and Miller for a HOF'er. That was a fantastic deal obviously but even with that we have had some bad luck developing talent. The lack of infield depth is a serious problem, our best prospect now will never play for us unless he's moved to the outfield. Players who have been drafted and turned out okay or in some cases all-stars: Verlander, Granderson, Avila, Maybin, who else am I forgetting? Wish we had a SS ready to come in....

Denard Robinson......They're not going to catch him!

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June 14th, 2012 at 12:00 PM | ....Dirks, Berry, Boesch (Score:2)
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....Dirks, Berry, Boesch

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June 14th, 2012 at 12:57 PM | Berry was signed as a minor league free agent (Score:2 Normal)
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The Tigers did not draft him.

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June 14th, 2012 at 1:37 PM | ok, true! (Score:1)
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ok, true!

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June 14th, 2012 at 1:31 PM | Not sure (Score:1)
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Boesch and DIrks are going to be solid MLB players. It's a matter of time before Berry departs as his swing is extremely long, water eventually levels out. That being said, he should stay until he is hitting below .200 as he adds a dimension we have never really had...speed

Denard Robinson......They're not going to catch him!

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June 14th, 2012 at 10:24 AM | Where I'm from a .194 in AAA (Score:3 Normal)
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Where I'm from a .194 in AAA isn't very good at all.  Ryan Raburn is a giant turd.  It would be nice to have Berry's speed on the basepaths and lets be honest, you just called Delmon Young a competent outfielder.  The man runs like he has a piano on his back and can't get to fly balls.

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June 14th, 2012 at 10:28 AM | I figured it'd be obvious I was (Score:2)
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talking Jackson, Berry, Dirks and kind of Boesch or Kelly. Enough servicable talent at least to where they should be much more focused on 2B.

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June 14th, 2012 at 11:05 AM | To me it seems like (Score:0 Overrated)
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Raburn is about as streaky as they come. He's gotten better in Toledo, maybe it's a sign he's starting to heat up. We all know he's got the potential to contribute when he's on his game.

Inspiring haters to hate since 1817.

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June 14th, 2012 at 12:51 PM | Young is awful. He runs with mincing little steps (Score:2 Underrated)
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and a stiff gait, kinda like he's holding back a giant dump.

"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite." 

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June 14th, 2012 at 10:52 AM | WOW (Score:1)
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My buddy just heard on radio of a possible trade w/ the cubs. Raburn, Delmon, and Danny Worth for Soriano and Barney

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June 14th, 2012 at 10:59 AM | I can't see the Cubs giving (Score:1)
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I can't see the Cubs giving up Barney for that lot.

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June 14th, 2012 at 11:01 AM | Garza in that deal instead, (Score:2)
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Garza in that deal instead, plus minor league options...but I don't see that either

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June 14th, 2012 at 11:06 AM | I've read (Score:1)
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they're looking to move Dempster too. I wonder if the Tigers are involved in that at all.

Inspiring haters to hate since 1817.

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June 14th, 2012 at 11:23 AM | As a Cubs fan (Score:1)
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You've got to be kidding me right? I imagine this means the Tigers would take on all of Soriano's contract? Raburn, Delmon, and Worth aren't worth a whole lot, I would rather have given up Barney for some middling prospects instead. Well, if this is the deal, I hope it gets done in the next three hours so we can see them switch uniforms and clubhouses during warmups.

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June 14th, 2012 at 12:03 PM | There is no way that deal is (Score:1)
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There is no way that deal is happening.

Blank.....Blank......You're not looking at the big picture here.

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June 14th, 2012 at 1:34 PM | No shit (Score:1)
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That is a horrible trade that sounds made up. Young and Worth involved in any trade? Maybe young but who in the hell wants Danny Worth?

Denard Robinson......They're not going to catch him!

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June 14th, 2012 at 1:36 PM | That sounds (Score:1)
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Made up...here take 3 shitty players and gives Soriano and Barney, granted Soriano has a huge contract but come on!

Denard Robinson......They're not going to catch him!

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June 14th, 2012 at 11:01 AM | ouch (Score:2 Normal)
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head is asploding. its still not after asb so he is still going to be awful. its simple, leave him there til post asb

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June 14th, 2012 at 12:07 PM | Quentin and Delmon would (Score:3 Normal)
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Quentin and Delmon would compete for the worst defensive left-fielder in the history of baseball. They are the exact same player, I have no idea how this deal would help. 

P.S.  I cant stand Quentin and his stupid bat flip.

Blank.....Blank......You're not looking at the big picture here.

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June 14th, 2012 at 11:21 AM | Raburn to start at 2nd (Score:2)
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Raburn to start at 2nd tonight and bat 7th

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June 14th, 2012 at 11:53 AM | Raburn will be traded or released by the weekend (Score:2 Interesting)
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They brought Raburn up so they didn't have to waste options on another minor leaguer.  He will most likely be released by the weekend.

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June 14th, 2012 at 11:57 AM | Thats what I am hoping for!!! (Score:1 Normal)
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Thats what I am hoping for!!!

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June 14th, 2012 at 12:05 PM | I'm not crazy for Raburn but (Score:2 Normal)
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I'm not crazy for Raburn but his track record speaks for itself, there is 0 benefit in releasing him...

Blank.....Blank......You're not looking at the big picture here.

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June 14th, 2012 at 12:08 PM | He could be part of a (Score:1 Overrated)
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He could be part of a trade...no I would not wish to straight up release him.

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June 14th, 2012 at 7:37 PM | The Tigers aren't going to (Score:2)
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The Tigers aren't going to release a guy that's hit over .300 after the All-Star Break 3 years in a row.

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June 14th, 2012 at 12:05 PM | Sounds like it's Quentin. LOL (Score:2)
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Sounds like it's Quentin. LOL if he propelled the Tigers to a 1st place finish over the Chi Sox.

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June 14th, 2012 at 12:35 PM | That guy (Score:1)
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That guy cant catch much of a break...petco and san diego to comerica and detroit

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June 14th, 2012 at 1:24 PM | His career stats batting in (Score:2)
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His career stats batting in CoPa:

.286 - 10HR - 36RBI

So maybe a blessing?

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
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June 14th, 2012 at 12:38 PM | Wheeling and dealing (Score:2)
Heinous Wagner
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Joined: 08/10/2009
MGoPoints: 172

Random thoughts:

1. Quentin for Young is a wash, with Quentin only providing a slight uptick defensively due to his stronger arm. HIs other addition would be intangibles, but right now I'd tke a jagbag like Richie Allen (remember him?) if he can bring a big bat.

2. As a fan of both teams, I can't see the Cubs unloading Garza. Dempster is another story. Soriano to the Tigers doesn't work, either, because of his massive contract and his defensive liabilities. Where on earth would Detroit put another DH?

3. Raburn was called up to be showcased and moved for a song to clear a roster spot and accommodate an additional trade.

4. I like Jackson and Berry at the top of the order as a "daily double" of guys who can get on base. Move Boesch to fifth, especialliy now that he's hot. Then DY is a DH and too bad if he doesn't like it. 

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June 14th, 2012 at 12:42 PM | I like Berry as well, but (Score:2 Normal)
WMUgoblue
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Joined: 12/06/2009
MGoPoints: 3083

I like Berry as well, but he's not an everyday player. He's a defensive replacement/pinch runner with a chance to start a few games, but right now he's living with a high BABIP rate that is just unsustainable. He deserves a spot on the 25 man roster but don't have high expectations that he'll continue to rake.

Blank.....Blank......You're not looking at the big picture here.

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June 14th, 2012 at 12:53 PM | But he has speed, something (Score:2 Normal)
Coldwater
Joined: 12/14/2008
MGoPoints: 761

But he has speed, something the Tigers sorely lack. DD likes the slowpitch softball Linwood which doesnt suit Berry. I like Berry and I hope he stays around as a sub

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June 14th, 2012 at 12:54 PM | *Lineup not Linwood (Score:1)
Coldwater
Joined: 12/14/2008
MGoPoints: 761

*Lineup not Linwood

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June 14th, 2012 at 12:57 PM | DD (Score:1 Normal)
Coldwater
Joined: 12/14/2008
MGoPoints: 761

Let's be honest about DD and the entire organization.. They haven't drafted and developed a legit middle infielder in at least a decade. That is horsebleep

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June 14th, 2012 at 2:56 PM | The Tigers need to get better (Score:1)
graybeaver
Joined: 03/30/2012
MGoPoints: 276

The Tigers need to get better at defense.  They need to get someone that can bat around .250 and play better than average in the field.  Preferable someone with some speed as well.  They could always move Prince to DH and Cabera to first to make room if they get someone.  I can't see them ever winning the World Series unless they become a better all around team.  I think the pitching will be just fine.

 

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