I did not make this headline up
OT - Pryor Ruled Ineligible For Supplemental Draft
According to an NFL source Pryor's name does not appear on the Supplemental Draft Eligible list. EDIT: spelling mistake in the title line, I don't have a computer and post from the app which doesn't allow an edit. Anyone with an iPhone knows how slow the page loads in Safari/Opera Mini, sorry for that guys.
You're assuming Pryor knows how to make smart decisions. You don't have any evidence that he can do such a thing.
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This article is misleading, Pryors name was not on the first list but it is not a final list.
True, but this now forces Pryor to prove his eligibility. Simply showing that Ohio banned him from campus for five years will not be sufficient, contrary to the sports guys in Columbus. He needs to genuinely show that he was banned before that time. The fact that he was suspended for five games does not change his eligibility from the time of the NFL Draft to the time of the Supplemental NFL Draft. Keep in mind that the Supplemental NFL Draft requires a material change in eligibility of a player to demonstrate eligibility. A guy like King from Georgia fits that bill. Pryor does not appear to do so, at least at this time.
So the NFL/ NCAA should bend the rules for this kid of all people? No one should feel sorry for him at this point.
Yup, he's made his own bed, now he has to sleep in it.
It has nothing to do with "hate"...albeit we do hate him. There are rules pertaining to this draft. Ohio State ruled him ineligible to try and get him in, without explaining why the other five players who committed the same crime ARE eligible to play. Pryor was NOT eligible, and should NOT be allowed in. The fact that WE hate him is just a delicious topping to a steaming bowl of Pryor's tears.
whooped our ass every time they played us. How exactly did we get revenge in spades ?
how did Pryor get got? Earning millions as an NFL athlete doesn't seem to qualify.
It's not a stickler move at all. They are enforcing their rules to prevent potentail draftees from gaming the system to avoid certain teams a la Bernie Kosar. The facts are that Pryor's eligibility status did not change between the deadline for declaring for the draft and when he eventually decided he was leaving OSU, hiring an agent and declaring for the supplemental draft. I'm glad the NFL is refusing to let OSU's blatantly self-serving move of prohibiting Pryor's cotact with the school serve as a basis for entering the draft.
Why? They have rules that only a change in your eligibility would allow you to enter the draft.
Despite the bullshit, after the fact letter from OSU, Pryor was only suspended for five games. Similar to the Tressel situation, they tried to give a little goodbye gift and after he left Ohio and hired an agent and a few months had elapsed, did they cut ties with him for five years and suspend him for the season.
That seems pretty clear to me that there is no true change in his eligibility.
Rules are rules. Its pretty lame to say a rule shouldn't be followed because it is "a stickler move." Don't like the rule? Change it.
if this means he has to go the free agent route, he probably still has a shot at the NFL.
This means he can't play in the NFL this year and will go into next year's draft. NFL collective bargaining requires that players go through a draft cycle before they can be free agents.
He might be better off in the UFL (if that even exists) for a year at this point anyway. He'll get more experience there than he would as a mid training camp, third string addition to a team.
I don't think this is too much of a blow -
Being ineligible hasn't stopped him from playing before...
This situation is continuing to evolve. As late as today they were saying that they were continuing to review his status. So not as cut and dry as "it was in an old thread."
I thought I heard this after tosu released the "he'd have been kicked out of school anyway" letter. Yesterday on the local radio station they were discussing where he was going to get drafted and I thought wtf? I'm sure Rosenhaus will fight it but I don't know what he can do. Will we get another former tosu player filing suit against the NFL? It's always good to enter a business relationship by suing your future employer's league.
Edit: They just teased that they'll be discussing where and when his pro day will be on 97.1 in Columbus.
I will play him off.
just wait for these moments, huh?
That's what they were saying last night on Sports Center. He's *currently* listed as not eligible but that could change before the supplemental draft.
He'll probably go back to school and finish his degree.... hee hee
Nobody researches research quite like Terrible Pryor.
At the University of Ohio State. What does he have left, music, golf, and AIDS awareness?
where a very disgruntled Ted Sarniak drops TP like a hot piece o' toast.
Adam Schefter touched on this this morning on Sportcenter. He said that Pryor could still be added to the list, but the NFL is pretty good about having everything set-up 10 days before events like this. The supplemental draft occurs in 7 days.
His pro-day has been pushed back because the NFL hasn't ruled on his eligibility. He wasn't on the player list from the NFL but they have said the list is not complete. Pro-day was supposed to be Friday at a local high school. Pittsburgh Tribune arcticle.
Let's keep this in perspective: Pryor, as immature as he is, is a kid. It's what the "adults" do with kids that's most important. In this case, Tressel/OSU were the adults. They had the responsibility to 1) report the violation, and 2) not lie to the NCAA, and 3) not lie to get him into the bowl game.
I blame them far more than Pryor for all this, and it's a shame to see this young man punished further by being denied access to the NFL.
In the greater scheme of things, which was a more dangerous mistake - driving drunk twice and endangering peoples' very lives, or selling some memorabilia? Yet our own player gets a redshirt, and retains eligibility, while Pryor pays not only for his errors, but those of his coach and school.
Frankly, I've gone all around the emotional bases with this myself, from wanting to see OSU blown up, to wanting to see them rebound to preserve the rivalry. But that's the school. As for Pryor, no. His buddies who did the same thing will play for OSU this year. I think he took the fall a la Maurice Clarett.
I agree to a point. However, nobody made him sign an agent and drop out of school. He could have sat out his five games and then tried to make what he could of the rest of the season and then enter the draft. HE put the cart before the horse and left school before he made sure he was elligible for the supplemental draft. Knowing Rosenhaus, he probably waited to leave school on purpose so that he could be the top story of the supplemental draft instead of just another player - and subpar qb - in the regular draft. Think about it. Can you name anyone else that will be in the supplemental draft?
Don't get me wrong - I agree with the punishment to our guy being sufficient and fair.
All I'm suggesting is to keep things in perspective. What has already happened to Pryor will cost him millions, potentially, along with his reputation. That's a heavy penalty to pay.
The sad thing is that OSU and Tressel are the principal culprits; their transgressions were worse. They knew. They abandoned their responsibilities to their school, their team and their player.
I'd like to say one more thing - I think a bowl game ban should be added to OSU's self-imposed penalties and whatever else the NCAA doles out, simply because they shouldn't have been allowed to knowingly play ineligible guys in a bowl game, and having abused the bowl system, it would be just and appropriate to add at least a couple of years of bowl ineligibility.
I agree that tosu and Tressel are the main violators. That's why the "what's the big deal, all these guys did was sell their stuff" excuse doesn't work for me. At the least your coach lied and at worst the top dogs in your Athletic Department have blood on their hands - figuratively of course. I would like to see schools get harsher penalties for major violations like these, not just recruiting violations. I'd also like to see coaches like Kiffin and Calipari in bball have penalties follow them to their new schools.
Edit: Your meaning tosu fans, not YOU BlueHills.
nothing new. Tressel was in it for himself, he did not lie for Pryor's sake.
Tressel was trying to do the same thing with Pryor that he did with Clarett, ride him to a national championship. It wasn't until after Clarett helped Tressel win his championship that tosu suspended him for violations. I wonder if a Pryor style cover up would have been in order if tosu hadn't beaten Miami.
For what it's worth, they got an ok from the NCAA to allow the Tat5 to play in the Sugar Bowl.
The NCAA didn't know tressel's timeline, but they knew about the illegal benefits. The Sugar Bowl is all on the ncaa.
I completely agree with your comment about drunk driving being more severe. The difference is one situation involves breaking the law and the other is committing NCAA violations. Stonum received punishment from the school for disobeying the rules, but he also faces much more serious legal ramifications. He has a suspended license, served some jail time, and has two years probation. So while only being "suspended" for one year doesn't seem bad, he has been punished much more the Pryor.
What age do you have to be to vote? 18 you say?
What age to smoke/gamble? 18 you say?
What age is a legal adult? 18 you say?
How old was I when I made the decision to which college I would attend? 17, does this make me special? No, its called life.
Pryor no matter how immature he is, is a ADULT. HE alone made the decision to skirt the rules and has to pay the price, Tressell did not force him to drive 8 cars in 24 months.
Do you not think this is the treatment Stonum is getting too? He broke the rules and is being punished by not having the chance to make a million dollars next season and Pryor could have taken his medicine and sat out his 5 games and went on with his life but just like Clarett he decided to fight the system and this is what fighting the system gets you, which as everyone else has mentioned the NFL has always had this rule in place that you cannot just up and quit school and go into the supplemental draft because you want too, now he is and should have to wait until his former classmates are eligible for the draft.
But Pryor agreed to play by the NCAA's rules. He wouldn't cooperate with their investigation and lied about serving his suspension for five games to begin the year. Had he answered the questions investigators were asking, he would be serving a normal punishment for his transgression, it was his refusal to answer those questions and follow up on his promise to return that have put him in the situation he's in now. And frankly he should have studied the rules of the supplemental draft before banking on it as his fallback option,
I am predicting a sharp rise in the sale of "loaner cars" in Columbus.
Ohio said Pryor would have been ineligible this year if he had stayed. Why is he the only tatgate player that would have gotten any more punishment??? Is that just so they can quickly distance themselves from him in an attempt to look better in the eyes of the NCAA?
Would not be surprised if OSU faces this question in a couple days from the NCAA.
If I recall, the company line was something like "he didn't cooperate with the NCAA investigation, so he wouldn't be eligible." Which, like, he hired an agent which made him ineligible before he declined to meet with the NCAA personnel. You can't retroactively make someone ineligible based on actions after they are already ineligible.
Let us predict what will happen next:
Espn wants to break news to get osu in trouble (so far their efforts have been unfruitful)
Espn also has a substantial amount of money.
Pryor will need/want money as he is now unemployed.
Espn offers Pryor either a large sum of cash, tattoos, or trident layers to spill the beans on national tv.
We eat popcorn
The CFL is looking pretty likely right now. But considering what he's done to himself mostly, there are much worse scenario's. Part of me feels sorry for him in that he's obviously received very poor mentoring and guidance from his adult handlers, family, and coaches. That includes Sweatervest. That doesn't mean he can't make better decisions for himself. As someone pointed out though, it may simply be a maturity issue too.
I don't have any animosity toward TP (unlike his former school) and I hope he straightens himself out eventually.
Yes, always trust an article states "prior" is ineligible. Because Dallas and a few other teams are interested, I think he will be added. Jerry Jones will call up Goodell and make it happen.
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What a dickkkk
If he goes to Dallas I will personally drive to texas and kick JJ in the nuts.
Dallas doesn't have a huge need at QB right now, Kitna is a solid backup and they should still be able to get a couple more years out of Romo at least.