OT: Pryor For Heisman

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April 19th, 2010 at 10:31 PM
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Jedelman11
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OT: Pryor For Heisman

According to ESPN, Pryor is "blocking out the Heisman buzz"

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5101711

Tebow's Heisman: 32PassTD 6INT 23RushTD 66.9C%
Bradford's Heisman: 50PassTD 8INT 5RushTD 67.9C%
Pryor last season: 18PassTD 11INT 6RushTD 56.6C%

I wonder if its because he needs to add about 20 more total TDs or because he needs to increase his completion percentage by over 10% to even sniff Tebow/Bradford

Sure, tO$U is going to be good next season...and yeah, Pryor is bound to improve...

but let me be the first to say "I'm not buying it"

edit: added a couple more:
Troy Smith: 30PassTD 6INT 1RushTD 65.3C%
Matt Leinart 33PassTD 6INT 3RushTD 63.4C%
Jason White 40PassTD 10INT 1RushTD 67.9C%
Carson Palmer 33PassTD 10INT 4RushTD 63.2C%
Average 34PassTd 8INT 2RushTD 65.0C%
TP would still need to improve 16PassTD and 9C%

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April 19th, 2010 at 10:38 PM | You know who else isn't (Score:1)
MaizeSombrero
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You know who else isn't listening to the Heisman buzz?

Jimmy King.

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April 19th, 2010 at 10:39 PM | Sold! (Score:1)
BlueNote
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on the concept of not buying it.

“We accept reality so readily, perhaps because we sense that nothing is real.” 

April 19th, 2010 at 10:40 PM | TP's QB stats don't... (Score:1)
MGoShoe
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...really matter. The only stat that does is the number of mentions on ESPN analyst/columnist Heisman lists. That number is directly proportional to the number of OSU games broadcast on ABC/ESPN.

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April 19th, 2010 at 10:41 PM | When looking at his stats (Score:1)
Jedelman11
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found this ... and loved it

April 19th, 2010 at 10:41 PM | Well if he doesn't win in, (Score:1)
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Well if he doesn't win in, then he'll at least murder, steal, whatever, to get his Heisman.

April 20th, 2010 at 2:01 AM | He'll (Score:1)
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He'll still have to separate himself from the pack to get noticed because everybody murders and steals.

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April 19th, 2010 at 11:03 PM | Sold (Score:1)
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I'm backing his candidacy during the primary. I don't think his psyche can take it. He'll likely try to postpone the Michigan game for a month until he's ready.

April 19th, 2010 at 11:04 PM | He needs to make serious (Score:1)
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He needs to make serious improvement

April 19th, 2010 at 11:05 PM | Q: Why did you stop at Tebow? (Score:1)
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A: Because Troy Smith won the Heisman with just 30 passing touchdowns, and "12 more" sounds less daunting than "30 more"

April 19th, 2010 at 11:56 PM | Well, T. Smith (Score:1)
Jim Harbaugh Sc...
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was also qbing the top team in the nation at that point in time.

Either way, to throw 12 more tds he'd have to throw one extra per game and I don't see that happening with Tressel going back to Tressel-ball since Smith left.

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April 19th, 2010 at 11:08 PM | Troy Smith tossed 12 TD's to (Score:1)
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Troy Smith tossed 12 TD's to four INTs in '05...

...then 30+ scores in 2006.

This is because Tressel has two offenses. The Type 1 offense has been prevelant throughout his Columbus tenure: run the ball, play action, field position, let the defense do their thang. Sometimes, he'll tantalize by throwing a big play in here and there.

The Type 2 offense occurs with an upperclassman QB, veteran blocking, and top notch skill players: KILL KILL KILL mode. Big plays in the pass game and a strong runningback tandem. This is when Tressel gives his O the green light to go nuts. Smith's senior season was an example.

More than anything, I'm curious to see if Tressel will take the chains off this fall (I'm betting he will).

eenie meenie miney mo, catch a WR by his toe. if he scores six, let him go

April 19th, 2010 at 11:09 PM | Your "type 2" offense existed for a year (Score:1)
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And it didn't exist because Tressel flipped a switch. It happened because there was a Heisman winner at quarterback, two 1st rounders at wide receiver, and an offensive line that could keep its quarterback's jersey clean against most (sigh) defenses.

April 19th, 2010 at 11:16 PM | semantics, semantics...that (Score:1)
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semantics, semantics...that was what I was trying to get at.

Here, Doc Saturday's take on the matter.

eenie meenie miney mo, catch a WR by his toe. if he scores six, let him go

April 19th, 2010 at 11:15 PM | in an exercise of "when good ideas go wrong" (Score:1)
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he tried to start this buzz by wearing eye black... just like Tim Tebow.

unfortunately he didn't put the word of god but... instead... thought "flip it on 'em" and did the first thing he though of when he thought dog

April 19th, 2010 at 11:16 PM | This is not OT (Score:1)
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What does it say about me that I worry about this?

I have a Fandom Endurance III merit badge

April 19th, 2010 at 11:20 PM | Dion Lewis will win the (Score:1)
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Dion Lewis will win the Heisman in 2010.

April 19th, 2010 at 11:23 PM | Other things to block out... (Score:1)
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The Lions are blocking out the Super Bowl buzz.

The Spartans are blocking out the "too many good guys to win" buzz.

Dontrelle is blocking out all the Cy Young buzz.

Creed is blocking out all of that Grammy buzz.

Good luck TP, we're all rooting against you...

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April 19th, 2010 at 11:32 PM | Pryor has all of the physical (Score:1)
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Pryor has all of the physical tools to win a Heisman. If he puts everything together mentally, he'll have an incredible season. It's a rather large if, but it's definitely in the realm of possibility.

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April 20th, 2010 at 1:04 AM | remember Vince Young? (Score:1)
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unfortunately sometimes those "ifs" come true.

I remember thinking the same thing about Vince Young when in saw him play UM at the Rose Bowl. He had all the physical tools, but seemed to be missing something upstairs.

Then he put it all together, won the Heisman, beat USC, and made Leinart look dumb for not leaving as the consensus #1 pick.

**Hooray for his sanity**

That being said, his mental health is still up for debate after the stories about his car rides, guns, and possibly suicidal thoughts.

So what does this all mean?

Basically, if Pryor can put it all together mentally we might be looking at the next Vince Young (college). If he can't we might be looking at the next Vince Young (pros)

April 20th, 2010 at 1:08 AM | Except that (Score:1)
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Except that VY never won the Heisman

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-John Heisman

April 20th, 2010 at 2:26 AM | I guess... (Score:1)
Jedelman11
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While I implied that ... I guess I never really said it.

I see best case scenario 2010 Pryor as a clone of 2005 Vince Young.

2005 VY: 26PassTD 10INT 12RushTD

While TP could be that good, he could lead his team to a national championship (lord I hope he does not), and might even be arguably the most talented player in the country he is not going to have the stats to win the Heisman. There is almost always someone with either

1) a monster statistical season
or
2) "that guy" on "that team" ... Smith, Crouch, Ingram

Basically: someone is going to be the Reggie Bush to TP's Vince Young

April 20th, 2010 at 7:01 AM | "Pryor has all of the (Score:1)
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"Pryor has all of the physical tools to win a Heisman. If he puts everything together mentally, he'll have an incredible season. It's a rather large if, but it's definitely in the realm of possibility."

I feel the same way about my chess game.

"He stood there like the house by the side of the road, and watched that one go by"

April 19th, 2010 at 11:42 PM | (No subject) (Score:1)
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Syracuse '03, Michigan G'05

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April 19th, 2010 at 11:50 PM | This year's race could be (Score:1)
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This year's race could be good. Ingram could get it again, but Richardson is sick and will play a lot. Mallett could win. Dion Lewis from Pitt is a darkhorse.

April 20th, 2010 at 12:26 AM | For what its worth..... (Score:1)
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My money's on Mallett

April 20th, 2010 at 12:59 AM | I kind of like Jacquizz (Score:1)
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I kind of like Jacquizz Rogers out at Oregon State. He and his brother are basically the entire offense out there.

April 20th, 2010 at 12:03 AM | Denard Robinson! One word (Score:1)
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Denard Robinson! One word Des.

April 20th, 2010 at 12:31 AM | The Heisman Trophy will be (Score:1)
Michigan_Mike
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The Heisman Trophy will be made of Dilithium this year.

April 20th, 2010 at 12:06 AM | oh you mean forcier isn't in (Score:1)
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oh you mean forcier isn't in the Heisman talk anymore?

April 20th, 2010 at 12:10 AM | If theres 1 thing I'm sure of, (Score:1)
Birdman
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its Devin Gardner will win the Heisman.

April 20th, 2010 at 12:51 AM | Not to be critical of anyone (Score:1)
kdhoffma
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Not to be critical of anyone here, but am I the only one that feels ripping on Pryor is akin to Sparty ripping on Mike Hart? Bottom line is Pryor is 2-0 against us with a 63-17 scoring advantage. I can't stand the kid either, but right now he owns us.

April 20th, 2010 at 1:37 AM | When Pryor is the major (Score:1)
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When Pryor is the major reason OSU beats us, then it will be similar. Or when he gets to over 100 rushes and nearly 700 yards (Mike Hart's 4 year numbers vs MSU) against us. One of the two.

April 20th, 2010 at 2:28 AM | So KDHOFFMA ... you honestly (Score:1)
Jedelman11
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So KDHOFFMA ...

you honestly consider him a "Heisman-Worthy" QB?

April 20th, 2010 at 3:22 AM | Based on his performance to (Score:1)
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Based on his performance to date? Not at all. My comment wasn't directed at those discussing his "heisman-worthiness" rather at those posting "fail" pictures and what not.

April 20th, 2010 at 8:31 AM | I thought this was going to (Score:1)
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I thought this was going to be about Richard Pryor. Now I'm disappointed.

Brewer. Wolverine.

April 20th, 2010 at 8:56 AM | There is only One King! (Score:1)
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King Pryor, that is...

April 20th, 2010 at 9:45 AM | Pryor for Heisman Shirts (Score:1)
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I think after he shows that Heisman talk is clearly not warranted, Pryor for Heisman shirts would be a good idea for M fans. Maybe even before if we can in some way put added pressure on an underachiever.

Edit: I would also add that the success of lack thereof for tOSU will be determined by their defense rather than TP and the sweater vest offense.

 

 

April 20th, 2010 at 2:05 PM | It's all hype. Hype should (Score:1)
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It's all hype. Hype should get Pryor the Heisman regardless if he's the best player in the country or not.

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