OT: Prince Fielder to Tigers

Submitted by AlphaBlue on
According to several sources, Prince Fielder is very close to a 9 year deal with the Tigers

baldurblue

January 24th, 2012 at 3:48 PM ^

What about defense? Don't tell me Miggy can be a competent defensive third baseman because it's just not true.  And you can't not have both them in the lineup at the same time, if you have both on the active roster, you have to play them both.

I don't know, I'm just cringing at the thought of Cabrera playing third and Fielder at first, and then Delmon Young in left, with Raburn at second.  That's terrifying.  We need defense, there's a lot more to baseball than scoring runs.  That lineup would put a lot of pressure on our pitching staff to strike guys out or get flyballs because Miggy isn't gonna stop a thing at third.

I guess it's not quite confirmed yet, but I was hoping they'd make a move for Cespedes, assuming he is all he's cracked up to be, and then move Young to DH.

Butterfield

January 24th, 2012 at 3:54 PM ^

The defensive question can wait until 2013 since V-Mart is likely out all season.  That's a lot of time to figure out what guys can/can't do from a defensive standpoint.... 

And given the choice between a proven commodity and an unproven one (Cespedes), I'll take the sure thing.  Too many of the foreign can't miss prospects, well, miss. 

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

January 24th, 2012 at 3:57 PM ^

I don't know, I'm just cringing at the thought of Cabrera playing third and Fielder at first, and then Delmon Young in left, with Raburn at second. That's terrifying.

 

Actually, now that I see you say that.... that's fucking hilarious. Oh, I know. At some point in the future I will cringe at the result. I don't have any doubt about that. It just reminds me of the days when the Tigers featured a lineup of guys like Rob Deer and Mickey Tettleton and Cecil Fielder and a whole bunch of guys who could really hit and then sent Mike Moore to the mound and called him an "ace." Good times. At least now we have pitching.

Every Roh Has …

January 24th, 2012 at 5:34 PM ^

Cabrera was a LF when he broke in, moved to 3B with Florida, played 3B with the Tigers for like 2 weeks before they flipped him to 1B and moved Guillen to 3B. I am of the belief that Cabrera will turn into a solid/average Major League 3rd baseman, he's just that athletic. He will NOT move to LF again, I can promise you that. As for this season, 2012, reports are that Cabrera will rotate between 3B, 1B, and DH, Fielder will play 1B and DH, and presumably Inge/Kelly will see some reps at 3rd

TheLastHarbaugh

January 25th, 2012 at 6:17 AM ^

In all honesty, Miggy can't be a worse third baseman than Wilson Betemit, and then when you factor in his offensive production......you can live with it.

He has 2 years to get into shape, and he has played the position before. It's wish thinking to assume he can be even a competent third basemen, but I would say that if you asked every team in baseball, "Hey would you take Miggy and Prince at the corners?" they'd almost categorically answer, "Yes. Are you effing kidding me? That's even a possibilty?"

Every Roh Has …

January 24th, 2012 at 5:30 PM ^

That is an absolutely ridiculous assertion. Even with as good as Fielder is, Miguel Cabrera is the best pure hitter in all of baseball, with the ONLY possible exception being Pujols. DD and Illitch didn't sign Fielder to free up Cabrera in a trade, they signed Fielder to have the best 3-4 punch in a lineup from a hitting and power perspective since probably Maris and Mantle

MGoBeer

January 24th, 2012 at 4:16 PM ^

Is Verlander going to lose a game next year?  The amount of guys he strikes out with that run support. Obviously an exaggeration, but wow.

The guy this will hurt when Vmart comes back is Porcello. Ground ball pitcher with a shaky infield... Not a perfect fit.  Fister must be drooling after what he had to live through in Seattle though.

Naked Bootlegger

January 24th, 2012 at 4:27 PM ^

Any guesses where Fielder and Cabrera will fit in the batting order?    Cabrera to the 3 slot and Fielder #4?  Vice versa?   I know Leyland likes an effective bat behind Cabrera...maybe he'll try Boesch there.

UM Indy

January 24th, 2012 at 4:37 PM ^

For a very fat man. Uh, no. He won't keep up the type of production he had in Milwaukee for more than 3-4 years. Then he'll drop off a cliff like his fat daddy.

ixcuincle

January 24th, 2012 at 4:44 PM ^

With Victor Martinez' injury, this is a good deal for the Tigers. And when Martinez returns to full health, the Tigers lineup will be dangerous (not that it's dangerous enough as is with Fielder) 

Good luck to him and Tigers, big get today 

LSAClassOf2000

January 24th, 2012 at 4:49 PM ^

The Detroit News story is above. 

I'll take that - I actually admire Illitch for doing what he needed to do in the here and now to make a formidable 3-4 combination in the lineup where none may have existed had he waited to fill Victor's shoes. Actually, when Martinez comes back, imagine the 3-4-5 in the Tigers' lineup. Damn!

Tater

January 24th, 2012 at 4:58 PM ^

Everyone liked Cecil when he was here, and a lot of people were disappointed when the Tigers weren't in a position to draft his son.  The stories of him hitting balls into the seats of Tiger Stadium as a kid are a great prelude to his finally playing for the Tigers.  There is a lot of potential for a Hollywood ending here.  

If Prince Fielder plays his cards right, he will be one of Detroit's most beloved sports figures for the rest of his life.  

 

TheLastHarbaugh

January 25th, 2012 at 6:46 AM ^

I remember hearing stories about Ilitch being extremely disappointed that they didn't get a chance to draft Prince. Looking back, this road might have been best for both parties. Prince got a chance to develop into one of baseball's best hitters in relative obscurity (Not a slight against the Brewers, but the pressure of being the son of a good major leaguer was probably hard enough let alone what it would have been being Cecil Fielder's son drafted by Detroit. When you factor in his relationship with his father, it's not hard to imagine things going south quickly had Prince struggled early in Detroit, or even performed well, but not up to Cecil's standards).

Regardless, this has a chance of being one of the greatest baseball storylines of all time, the stuff of legend and the stuff only dreams (or hollywood) are made of.

Imagine if Prince wins a World Series with the Tigers, and reconciles with his father all in the same season. It world make "Field of Dreams" look like garbage in comparison.

 

 

 

Sambojangles

January 24th, 2012 at 5:00 PM ^

Illitch will make a lot of the $214 million back in merchandising and increased ticket sales. If Fielder can have a good couple of years and make the town excited about the team as much as they were about Verlander last year, it won't matter if he bats like Brandon Inge after 2015. The SABR people don't think about what the team gets in return off the field for big players, but I can guarantee that the owners do.

Also, 45 is conveniently open on the current Tigers roster, if Prince wants it.

bronxblue

January 24th, 2012 at 5:02 PM ^

I love the trade from a pure offensive baseball sense plus some history (his dad was a pretty good masher for the Tigers in his day), but I'm not sure how much he helps the team on the field.  If he has a typical season, he's basically VMart with less range and more pop, if somewhat slightly.  Miller Park was basically a neutral field  in terms of hitting, so at least his numbers were not overly inflated.  That said, the Tigers already have a power-hitting first baseman with suspect range, and while Prince can hit DH, you like to keep that space more open for guys coming back from injury, rest from the field, etc.  Yes, Miggy could play 3rd and Fielder at 1st, but that's putting quite a bit of strain at two positions both physically as well as defensively.

Overall, this might work out well in the short term, but Fielder's body type is not one that holds up as he ages (at least historically), and I'm always a bit scared paying $20M+ for a guy who can't stay on the field because of injuries.  Of course, the Tigers have the money and you can't be that worried about teams 3-4 years down the line.  I'm very excited about the next 2-3 years, and then I guess we'll see how it shakes out.  Still amazes me that the Tigers are making the biggest move of the offseason.

Every Roh Has …

January 24th, 2012 at 5:25 PM ^

1) it was not a trade. It was a signing. 2) "Less range and more pop" than V-Mart. What were you referring to by "range?". Martinez was going to strictly DH this season anyways, hence the Laird signing. In terms of 1st base, Leyland preferred putting Kelly out there to give Cabby a day off. Does this move improve the Tigers overall defense? Absolutely not. Does it improve the team immensely, and make them (arguable) favorites to win the AL and the WS? You betcha. Love the move. Illitch wants a title

bronxblue

January 24th, 2012 at 10:57 PM ^

Yeah, didn't mean to say trade - that was just a brain fart on my end.  

As for range, I meant VMart can at least play multiple positions (catcher and DH, and possible 1st).  And yes, varying levels of quality at each.  With Fielder, it is a mediocre 1st base plus DH, and that's it.  

As for making them the prohibitive favorties for the AL and WS title, I'd like to see more money spent at shoring up the bullpen - expecting AA and the Big Potato to be lights out again isn't a given, and I'm not sure that Fielder is more than a slight improvement offensively from what Martinez gave last year.  I just want to see the team continue to improve, both at the top of the order as well as defensively in the outfield beyond Jackson.

TyrannousLex

January 24th, 2012 at 5:28 PM ^

I don't like the length of the deal, but my guess is that Fielder wasn't going to sign for less. I'm iffy on what this will realistically do to the defensive lineup, but with VMart out for the season it's not a 2012 issue. Other than that, holy shit. If Jackson even returns most of the way to his rookie numbers, this lineup is killer down to like the 8 spot.

MichiganPoloShirt

January 24th, 2012 at 5:29 PM ^

Great signing this shows a lot of balls! Let me tell u guys something we have a window of opportunity and our owner/front office are going all out to maximize our ring-winning potential! I love it GO TIGERS!!!