wont be waiting for Strong when he arrives.
this guy evidently hired to work for AD
wont be waiting for Strong when he arrives.
I don't know if Strong was a good hire or not, but it's very disappointing to see someone speak publicly like this. Can't imagine how Strong feels right now.
Checks he gonna cash I'm guessing. Who care what one guy says.
When that guy has donated $100 million to the school, it actually matters a lot what he thinks.
At some point, Texas is going to have to get the two of them together and have a chat.
To the school. Not the football program, not the coaches, to the school. You don't like it start you own college and become the ad.
I think he has also given a lot to the athletic department. He seems to be very similar to Stephen Ross, only more interested in sticking his nose in things.
Well then someone needs to tell him to keep his damn nose out of UT Athletic business. Donating money doesn't give you a say so in hiring coaches
Technically, you are correct, but practically speaking I would imagine donating that much money gives him a say in whatever the fuck he wants to -- assuming there is any prospect that he may donate more.
It's easier to say who cares when you aren't the one being talked about. When I take a new job, I don't want to hear people saying I was a bad hire, and I'm sure Strong doesn't either. Like someone else said, hopefully it motivates him. But I'm sure on some level it stings.
Saban might be there instead of Strong.
Think of him as their Steven Ross. He is a MAJOR donor, has owned an NFL team, and the UT business school is named after him.
He may be a self-inflated windbag and completely wrong on this, but he is not a no one when it comes to UT internal politics.
This was my point earlier, when I heard they made this hire I had a feeling that Strong would not be a big enough name to appease the masses. He is a good coach and I think he should have a big time job, but I didn't see the fit at Texas.
Is there a race component? Absolutely, but I think Texas expected someone major (eg Harbaugh, Saban, Tomlin, Gruden, etc) and the donors wanted more input and that's the greater issue here.
You've made the conclusion there is a race element because...? Right, there is absolutely no evidence at all but since he's an old white guy who doesn't like a younger black man the only logical conclusion is it's a race thing. Good grief...
So sick of this crap, I live here and frankly I encountered WAY more racism in the Midwest than I have here in Texas.
I don't think the race conclusion is obvious, but you can cool your jets because ATM you sound like a reverse racism apologist. And technically that's political, therefore off-limits....
There is no such thing as "reverse racism", racism is racism regardless of the race of the impacted party.
The original argument that there is "absolutely" a racial element is political - I'm pointing out how ridiculous and unsubstantiated that argument is.
I really don't want to get into sociological or psychology debate. My point was that he was not a big enough name and the donors didn't get enough input for their liking. Charlie Strong is a good coach but there are many factors that play into why some people view him as an underwhelming hire or a bad fit for Texas.
I hope Charlie Strong rolls into Austin and proceeds to dismantle the Big 12, just to shut this asshat up!!!
...the stars at night....are big and bright..(clap, clap, clap, clap)!!!
You can't put a face to multiculturalism and inclusiveness, but if you could, I'm pretty sure it'd look like that.
How so? I don't remember any Michigan booster ever saying something like this publicly. And this is probably the tip of the iceberg.
Bill Martin - not some booster but the damn AD's favorite candidate to replace Lloyd Carr? TONY DUNGY, you know, the guy was going to leave Peyton Manning and the Colts, right after winning a super bowl, and come to Michigan!
Wait, are you saying that Martin, after hiring RichRod, told the media he wanted Dungy? I don't remember it happening like that.
about coaches with some fame or notoriety with every big school hire? Seems like school that do their homework and actually sleuth out young talent could score big.
I did a thing on the board a couple of years ago, probably before the 2011 season started when people were complaining about "hirting a MAC coach," comparing three approaches: hiring an established big-name coach, hiring somebody with lower-level coaching experience, promoting an assistant from within. There wasn't really much difference in results among the three; if anything there was a slight edge to hiring the lower-level guy.
Strong probably qualifies as an established big-name coach though, the way I did it (and he should). Lousville was an AQ; they're not hiring out of Miami (O).
Maybe I'll do that again, better, and post a diary sometime. The subject seems to come up a lot.
And I'm sure you're right that doing the DD is the key, regardless of who you wind up hiring. The point was noticing, in the interview and from the recs, that Bo was Bo or that Woody was Woody. But I don't know how to measure that.
Well this is awkward.
Did McCombs make a reference to this hire reminding him of the movie Blazing Saddles? /s
I'm still trying to figure out how Mack Brown and company missed out on Luck, RGIII, and John T. Football.
And Winston who wanted to talk with Brown who didn't have any interest.
And Foles, who is from Austin.
Part of the problem was Mack's penchant for locking down the entire class during their junior year, so he never had room for any late bloomers... but yeah, his real downfall was his inability to get a decent QB after Colt. Which is just insane when you think of all the QB talent from the state of TX.
Instead of all those guys mentioned, he took Gilbert, Ash and Colt's brother.
And that's why his tenure has ended on a sour note.
Charlie Strong better get used to it. The high profile alumni and boosters make the decisions. This is how the program has always been run.
You can't ignore them; that's why Mack Brown benched the Big-12 offensive player of the year in favor of Chris Simms. He did was he was told.
for the job but short of hiring Saban. Gruden or Dunghy any new Texas coach would have had his detractors. Hoke had his fair share.
Patterson screwed up here. It probably had a lot to do with being new and getting to know the Texas culture. When a guy donates that kind of money you at least make him feel involved, if he wants to be.
The notion you just tell a guy like that to GTFO if he doesn't like it is ridiculous. It would be damaging to the university.
only one who read the "he would make a good position coach" as a cleaned-up version of "know your place, boy."?
I don't think this has as much to do with race (because, honestly, that would be so cliche and I'd like to think that a major booster to the biggest university in the country wouldn't have gotten to major positions of power while being a virulent racist - I know, naive).
It does, though, have lots to do with a booster who wasn't consulted, or feels that he should have been consulted more, and coming across as a jilted boyfriend/girlfriend. He probably had his guy in mind, and that wasn't Strong, so now he's throwing a hissy fit because he doesn't like seeing his "power" ignored and maybe he's feeling like he lost this particular pissing contest.