(somewhat) the same things about Hoke would have made Brian a racist had Hoke been black?
(somewhat) the same things about Hoke would have made Brian a racist had Hoke been black?
If Hoke had even remotely as successful of a resume as Strong did prior to his hiring, then maybe yes. Hoke had absolutely no such resume to speak of. Not even close. But cool straw man you got there.
says the guy defending one. Well played.
Comparing Strong's record to Hoke's is not such a great comparison.
No other major college team would have hired Hoke at that time (or today, for that matter) -- you can't say that for Strong.
Hoke had never been a coordinator, and had a sub .500 head coaching record when Michigan hired him. That's a bit different.
The crux of this is a bunch of fist biters are borderline concern trolling. They're the ones bringing race into it, not some ancient billionaire who thought Texas could get Saban or Harbaugh or Gruden.
I don't even know what that means!
So pretty much Coach Hoke? I think a lot of us think the same thing of Hoke now but we're not accused of being racist. If McCombs happened to be a woman/Hispanic/Asian/black would this be an issue? Nope. But because he's "an old Southern guy" he has to be racist, right? Not just a guy with an inflated ego who thinks the UT job should be able to grab Saban at will?
yes. and that chance is 99.8%
He did buy an NFL team with a black head coach. It really sounds like he's insulted that his $100M and perceived expertise didn't get him more involved in the process.
Calling an experienced head coach a "position" coach and maybe a coordinator is pretty damning (not to mention one coming off a 1-loss season). That is a lot worse than saying we settled and could've/should've gotten a stronger candidate.
"Great position coach, maybe a coordinator"
Are you serious dude? Dude won 23 games the last 3 seasons, including a BCS bowl.
What an arrogant, stupid man.
Why? Because some idiot white guy still cannot accept that the Civil War ended well over 100 years ago?
as you accuse him of making. Are you related, by chance?
In fairness, Strong's resume is better than Mack Brown's was when Texas hired him back in '97. McCombs is apparently a friend and supporter of Brown. McCombs not only said that Strong wasn't fit to be the coach at UT, but that he "would make a great position coach, maybe a coordinator." Never mind the fact that Strong turned around Louisville and beat an SEC team in a BCS bowl, or that he won two national championships as a defensive coordinator at Florida. Brown didn't have any similar accolades on his resume when he was hired by UT. It's hard not to notice that the main trait distringuishing Strong from Brown is Strong's race.
Actually, Brown was one of the hot names in coaching when Texas hired him. He'd taken a UNC program that was in horrible shape and went 10-2 and 11-1 his last two years there. He just couldn't get over the FSU hump (FSU then was pretty much like Alabama now).
I think both guys were pretty strong candidates when hired.
about Texas so that shouldn't surprise you.
Name another state where the two large football programs have minority head coaches. I'll wait...
If Strong wins 11 or more games the next couple of years, most asshole boosters will shut up. Fewer than 10 wins two years in a row, and there will be a lot more than this booster questioning the hire.
All it takes is winning. If he wins, he's good and that douche booster will fall in love. If he loses, all hell will break loose like it has here since the Rich Rod era and it will probably be worse.
My guess would be that McCombs is moreso pissed off that Texas get Harbaugh or Saban to agree to some otherworldly amount of money, so that Texas would have to go to the booster to get it, and they could buy their way into controlling the program.
Strong better become a good politician in the next 5 years, or it may not matter how much he wins.
Texas has enough money that they don't need to ping any single booster to chip in on paying the head coach.
Always good to screw them over before the coach gets on campus. Worked wonders for the program and fanbase here.
I wondered how an African-American head coach would fly with the rich boosters in TX. Apparently, McCombs thinks that if you are rich enough, you are exempt from civil rights legislation. I'm surprised he didn't say that Strong "lacks the necessities" to be a head coach.
I hope Strong gets enough support to succeed wildly at UT and relegate McCombs to "rich booster who doesn't run the program anymore" status.
that purchased a Vikings team coached by Denny Green - Green was there for several years after the purchase. I suspect McCombs is guilty of the same crime RR committed - he has an accent.
No, McCombs bought the Vikings in 1998. Green was hired in 1992.
EDIT: You edited before I hit 'Save'. Your original post said that McCombs hired Green. It's true that McCombs kept Green on, but that's not quite the same as hiring Green.
It does seem to be enough to convince you that he is racist, based on nothing other than a picture.
No, but Brown's resume when he was hired isn't any better than Strong's. The fact that McCombs was a huge supporter of Brown but thinks Strong isn't even a great coordinator is eyebrow-raising, at the very least.
Did you even read the interview? What it really looks like is McCombs had his heart set on Jon Gruden and thought he paid enough to have a say in the hire. When they didn't take his choice, McCombs threw a temper tantrum. Why assume it's race when it's clearly a power struggle?
Because his comments aren't limited to his complaints about not being consulted. He's basically saying Strong isn't good enough to be a head coach, which is ridiculous.
Look at some of the things that other rich people say when they're throwing a public hissy fit. It doesn't have to be rational; a lot of it is flat ridiculous. These people are used to getting their way. He's making the point that his choice was the right coach and everyone else was crap compared to his choice.
most "rich" people throwing "hissy fits" are usually savvy enough not to make an implicitly racist comment, e.g. the whole only good enough to be a coordinator discussion.
Tater. WTF does any of this have to do with civil rights legislation? Seriously. WTF?
he is probably just mad that they didn't hold out for what fisher can bring now that he has the clout of being a national champion head coach
is not surprising. It was inevitable.
Texas fans will have zero patience for this guy, he needs to win right away.
The fact that Strong doesn't play well with boosters and the schmoozing I think he'll find himself railroaded out of town the second Saban calls them up and says he is ready.
Whan Texas hired Mack Brown in '97, he was a good-but-not-great ACC coach who had never won a conference championship and had never beaten Florida State. Strong has at least as good a resume as Brown did in '97.
McCombs is 86 years old and probably senile.
probably smells too.
Charlie Strong 4 years at Louisville 37-15
Mack Brown last 4 years at Carolina 34-12
The only difference to me is Charlie did it against decidedly weaker competition and inherited a program on much better footing than Mack Brown did at Carolina.
The only good competition in the ACC when Brown coached at North Carolina was Florida State, whom Brown never beat. His best "win" was a tie against Georgia Tech the year that GT won the national championship. Strong's Louisville team dominated a one-loss Florida team in the Sugar Bowl. And Louisville wasn't in great shape when Strong got there; they hadn't had a winning season in three years.
"McCombs is 86 years old and probably senile."
Ageism. Disgusting and pathetic.
is a little like criticizing [insert coach's name here] for never beating UCLA under Wooden.
I'm looking at the Massey website--there's criticism of their supposed weak schedules in those years and I want to use something that's SOS-adjusted instead of just polls or records--and in the 90s FSU finished the year ranked 4, 3, 2, 1, 3, 3, 2, 2, 3 and 1.
There's never been a run like that ever, anywhere.
I wonder how he felt about me.
I'm pretty sure he personally unfurled your golden parachute.
Boosters can say those sorts of things about Strong now, but he will either (1) succeed in spite of rifts and lack of support or (2) fail and make the job a whole lot less palatable during their next search. Even if that is the booster's honestly held belief, why say that in public and shoot your school in the foot?
Because he's a rich entitled bastard who is pissed that the new Texas AD didn't consult him on the hire?
Personally I think Strong is a GREAT hire for Texas.
to go to the NFL vs. staying in a secure college job: loud-mouthed jerk boosters. Unlike an average jerk fan, in college the coach has to put up with these idiots at money-raising events, personal meetings sometimes, and other functions. In the NFL, they just have to make two people happy: the owner and GM/President.
Some of these Texas boosters must think that every great coach in college or the pro's should be lining up to take their HC job. Now they're learning what Michigan did when your program stops winning at the rate it once did for a few years.
Where did I claim omnipotence? I just said I THINK we are about to see something worse at Texas. How you get me claiming to know the future out of that statement is beyond me.
Michigan didn't have major boosters going to the press claiming Rodriguez wasn't fit to be a coordinator here the week he got to campus. Talk all you want about whatever BS went on while Rodriguez was here, but it apperas that Strong is walking into an openly hostile situation at UT.
This is more about the new AD, Steve Patterson, learning how Texas sports "work" than anything else. Unfortunately, Charlie is in the middle of it. Welcome to the NFL kid.