OT: Poll - Women in Football Locker Rooms

they can be there.

I don't think reporters should be allowed in locker rooms, period.  Would you want someone to film you while you're getting dressed after a shower?  A simple compromise would be to kick all reporters out, while requiring players to meet the press outside say, 20 minutes after the game. 

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I think women should be allowed in locker rooms, just not this particular one.

I wonder why she was disrespected by the players? Hmmmmmm....

On the one hand, if women aren't allowed in men's locker room after games then their male counterparts should also not be allowed in. Not ever having been a player in a locker room after a big game I can only imagine how it must be like to have reporters leaching around the locker room while you, the player, is just trying to clean up and decompress. I realize it has been a part of sports for, like, ever, but as a player it has to be weird.

That being said, you are spot on with your comment regarding the opposite never being allowed to happen. Not that there are many women's team sports that would draw that kind of coverage, but are men allowed in the women's locker room, say, after the WNBA championship? Of course, maybe men don't want to be in the locker room after the WNBA championship.

You know man, I think you put women reporters in the locker room in positions to see guys walking around naked, and you sit in the locker room with 53 guys, and all of the sudden you see a nice woman in the locker room, I think men are gonna tend to turn and look and want to say something to that woman. For the woman, I think they make it so much that you can't interact and you can't be involved with athletes, you can't talk to these guys, you can't interact with these guys.

And I mean, you put a woman and you give her a choice of 53 athletes, somebody got to be appealing to her. You know, somebody got to spark her interest, or she's gonna want somebody. I don't know what kind of woman won't, if you get to go and look at 53 men's packages. And you're just sitting here, oh, none of this is attractive to me. I know you're doing a job, but at the same time, the same way I'm gonna cut my eye if I see somebody worth talking to, I'm sure they do the same thing.

 

 

 

Perhaps this is simply about the fundamental difference between men and women regarding sexuality, but in a strange way he makes a good point. Can a woman be around 53 naked athletic men and NOT be aroused by any of them????

 

It happens with all sorts of professional women's sports. There aren't enough women reporters to only send them into women's locker rooms, and if it was done, that'd be discrimination by making all your women reporters "slum it".

But I generally agree with the idea above that NO one belongs in the lockerroom.  We get all that "well, that's the only way to get the candid reaction" and stuff, but that's BS. They can tweet their stuff before they talk to a reporter. Just no one has had the courage to be the first to ban them.

However, just like I wouldn't expect a male reporter to be wearing a shirt unbuttoned to his belly button, or walking into the room in bicycle shorts showing off his junk, likewise, I expect women "reporters" to not dress like tramps out for a night of clubbing. There never should have been an "apology", because in this case, the woman isn't acting professional, and is doing more harm to female reporters than acting as a representative of feminism.  I'm sure no one is cringing at her more than serious female media members. (Who also probably don't appreciate that she didn't get her job from any "reporting" she's done, but more so from her boob job).

Men shouldn't be allowed in the women's and women shouldn't be allowed in the men's.  Allowing opposite sex reporters in a locker room is an idiotic idea that should have been laughed out of the room the second it was proposed.  But equality and "fairness" trump common sense, so... here we are.

If you are going to let men in then you might as well allow women.  Personally, I think we have enough talking heads already, and having some canned responses to canned questions after a big win/tough loss really don't add much.  I would be fine if they just kept the lockerroom closed to the media until everyone is dressed and/or limit discussions to the various press conferences.

I can't read articles on this issue without remembering an incident from the '90s:

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/02/07/sports/kiam-apologizes-after-joking-a…

She dresses like a skank. Obviously she wants the attention.

I don't think that Women should be allowed in the locker rooms.  Not only is it an invasion of privacy on some levels but there would never be a male reporter allowed in a femal locker room.  I understand that this is an equality issue, but at the end of the day i'm sure it's a difficult situation for all parties involved.  It's not like they can't get the interviews once the players are done showering and ready to meet the press.  No matter how many organizations have these issues they will never stop because for every guy that keeps to himself theres a bunch that are going to try and belittle the woman reporter in one way or another.  This issue will never be resolved until they pull women from the locker rooms.

And is it absolutely necessary?  I mean, most reporters have the decency to wait for the athletes (men or women) to get changed and then harrass them in the corridor outside.

Sure, the Jets players don't have to make obscene gestures and act like they're 12, and nobody deserves to be intentionally harrassed.   Thank goodness for video editing technology, eh?

Having a woman or a man in the lockeroom of the opposite sex asking questions of star players while other athletes are just trying to get cleaned up, changed and out of there is an inconsiderate invasion of privacy.  

Maybe men and women can both agree that the bathroom/locker room arena could be identified as one place where all this insistence on "equal access" and "equal rights of the sexes" can take a little siesta?

Maybe I'm wrong.

 

 

This reporter was on MSNBC after this had coccured and she was asked if she felt harassed.  Her response was no she did not feel that at all, and that it was another female reporter that made an issue out what was being said.  She felt that the players where just being men in a locker room

SAINZ:  Noooo, I didn't feel harassed -- and then go and wait for Mark, and then, eh, a colleague of mine, a female reporter come with me and say, "I'm so sorry. It's so disgustin' that this things happen.  It mustn't happen," and she's very upset.  I tried to calm her and say, "Let's pretend nothing happened.  I'm focusing my job."

Apply the rules fairly and equally . . . no reporters allowed in locker rooms, male or female, period.

I really struggle with her. Doing a google picture search, it just is hard for me to see how that is professional dress. Now, I like looking as much as the next guy, but the way most guys are wired, and the way Football players are fawned over, it seems a recipe for disaster to have any woman dressed like that interviewing. It isn't a case of gender:  its a case of what's appropriate. And there is something really annoying about a tease who then claims harassment. Now, I refuse to go down the "she was asking for it" road. But man, thinking of testosterone filled football players, what in the world is she thinking?

Fox News (yeah, I know) grilled her up about it...  By the way - nice shirt...

 

NY Jets Reporter Tells Her Side

Personally, I am glad WOODY JOHNSON was the one releasing the statement.

You put a good looking woman in an area filled with a bunch of men, whether it be an NFL locker room or not, and she's going to get harassed.

Perhaps in an NFL locker room these harassments will be more obvious than say, an office setting, but either way - boys will be boys. 

like a professional, including dressing the part, then issues like this would rarely arise. It looks like she has built a porfolio through her looks and knew exactly what she was doing looking the way she did in the Jets locker room.

What the players did was also inexcusible, however it's a two way street. If you don't want the attention then don't go in the locker room and don't where skin tight, low cut clothes.

I also think she did exactly what she wanted to: she got her name splattered all over the media.  This is a ploy to either advance her career, make a lot of money off of a lawsuit, or both. 

AFAIC, if she wants to be "one of the boys," then she has to take the good-natured ribbing that all rookie reporters get until they prove themselves.

A woman who's a sports journalist really can't win. If she's too good looking, she's not taken seriously, and if she's not that attractive, she gets hung out to dry for it. I think it's tough to find the balance of attractive enough but not too attractive, feminine enough but not too feminine, well dressed but not provocatively dressed, etc....

 

With that said, I think if a woman wants to venture into a men's locker room, she's taking her life into her own hands. A locker room is what it is. Obviously, if a woman was groped or molested, that's criminal. But a few comments or innuendos are what she should expect. As they say, if you can't stand the heat....

I told my wife I only read this thread for the comments. I barely even noticed the pictures. Of course if this has already been mentioned, I guess I'm busted...but it was totally worth it.