It was on Outside the Lines yesterday. Obviously the coach was out of line, but to have police investigate is a little ridiculous.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/conversations/_/id/8513339/police-investigate-ida...
i find this extremely interesting
OT: Police investigating Idaho State coach after he pushed player
October 18th, 2012 at 4:40 PM
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OT: Police investigating Idaho State coach after he pushed player
October 18th, 2012 at 4:54 PM | 
I don't think it's as black and white as police/no police.
I don't think it's as black and white as police/no police.
October 18th, 2012 at 5:20 PM |
yes, if the police see fit to investigate
yes, if the police see fit to investigate
then they thought the incident serious enough to consider charges; let the process unfold.
October 18th, 2012 at 5:30 PM |
I agree
I agree
and I think the injury plays into the police being interested. This can't be viewed as a coach simply getting physical during the practice of a physical sport. The athlete hasn't been able to play since. Out of anger, the coach resorted to violence leading to an injury. No matter the sport or level of violence, that cannot be allowed. I've taken hits from coaches during drills where contact is expected... this isn't like that.
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October 18th, 2012 at 5:39 PM |
Question
Question
Where did you see that he was injured?
"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
October 18th, 2012 at 5:45 PM |
It's in the linked article.
It's in the linked article.
He's missed the last two games and was their leading receiver.
Eating is murder.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:47 PM |
I had a coach tackle me my
I had a coach tackle me my
I had a coach tackle me my Freshman year of high school. It wasn't voluntary but I was asked if I'd stand in; I couldn't say "No, coach, I will not allow this", and it was for demonstration (it was also on to tackling pads). The aforementioned really has nothing to do with anything. Anyway, who really knows how all this went down. It probably shouldn't have been done, but like OP says, the fuggin' PO-LEECE!???
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October 18th, 2012 at 4:53 PM |
Seriously? This is football.
Seriously? This is football.
Seriously? This is football. This kid is soft. Coaches push, they yell, they slap you upside the helmet. If you ever played the game you most likely experienced it. It is not assault, it is the way the game is. If you don't think Hoke or Mattison grabs the players and shoves them in the middle of practice you are delusional.
October 18th, 2012 at 5:07 PM |
I'd be very disappointed in
I'd be very disappointed in
I'd be very disappointed in Hoke if he displayed his anger at a player taking too long to run a drill by jogging twenty-five yards and shoving the kid to the ground (and then standing/walking over him), all while apparently saying nothing instructional.
"We bring you to Michigan to take care of Michigan; your job is to protect that block M."
-Carol Hutchins
October 18th, 2012 at 5:27 PM |
Yes
Yes
I agree completely. It was very wrong, and I'd be very disappointed. But is that really criminal? The kid is in pads and gear, so he's well protected from harm. And coaches grab players and jerk them in close, getting right in their faces all the time. I agree that it was wrong, but I think short of throwing punches or kicks, pushes or pulls in a football practice fall within the lines of acceptable motivation. This one is stupid and innefective, but not criminal, I dont think.
"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
October 18th, 2012 at 5:32 PM |
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's pretty much what I said above. I don't think he needed to go to the cops (although he's well within his right to), but going to the AD or someone within ISU's administration was definitely something that needed to be done.
Edit: Above someone said that he was injured on the shove and hasn't been able to play since. If that's actually the case (that he was injured to that extent by his coach) I throw out everything about not going to the police. I would have done exactly what he did: get a lawyer and follow his advice.
"We bring you to Michigan to take care of Michigan; your job is to protect that block M."
-Carol Hutchins
October 18th, 2012 at 5:04 PM |
Hard to Condone
Hard to Condone
Its one thing push or grab a player to make a point, but shoving a kid to the ground in anger is crossing the line.
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October 18th, 2012 at 5:51 PM |
Thank goodness he wasn't breaking off yardsticks on them.
Thank goodness he wasn't breaking off yardsticks on them.
It might have been a national tragedy.
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October 18th, 2012 at 5:31 PM |
That kid just lost the
That kid just lost the
That kid just lost the respect of the whole locker room
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October 18th, 2012 at 5:41 PM |
I wonder what they think of their coach?
I wonder what they think of their coach?
I wonder what they think of their coach?
Eating is murder.
October 18th, 2012 at 5:49 PM |
They will judge based on a different set of truths and rules.
They will judge based on a different set of truths and rules.
They were there, and know the background. If they think the player was being a wuss, he will have no fun this year. Other than not using "maybe, perhaps or might", I don't see a thing wrong with JBT's post. He angared the permanently aggrieved, it appears.
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October 18th, 2012 at 5:55 PM |
I wouldn't call that assult.
I wouldn't call that assult.
Did Woody get prosecuted when he actually punched someone in the face? I know it is a different day and age but come on man. This isn't that big a deal. It is real expensive to investigate little stuff like this. What is the best case for punishment? I have had my kids hug after they pushed each other down maybe the judge could order some cuddling. I have taken bigger hits at Wal-Mart on black Friday and that was from my wife. Don't stand between her and a $5 toaster or she will lay you out.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:22 PM |
Maybe I'm an asshole, but
Maybe I'm an asshole, but
Maybe I'm an asshole, but please tell me how a coach pushing you results in neck spasms.
"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"
October 18th, 2012 at 8:34 PM |
I'm not a$$ hole but I think
I'm not a$$ hole but I think
I'm not a$$ hole but I think this goes alot further than a push and he got hurt. He has an vendeta against the coach. All the actioins shows something was a brewing anyways. The kid sounds like player that was not part of the team....at all. I am not saying the coach is right but come on the kid needs to be in swimming because I am sure the practice squad never hit him as hard as his coach did (i make myself laugh ha ha ha)
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October 18th, 2012 at 8:46 PM |
Cmon now. My high school head
Cmon now. My high school head
Cmon now. My high school head coach broke a clipboard over a kids head.. The kid obviously needed to take his head out of his ass. There's a reason girls don't play football.
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October 18th, 2012 at 8:49 PM |
In football
In football
In football you're expecting to get hit. When a coach is in you're face yelling at you there isn't the expectation to brace for impact.
October 18th, 2012 at 9:13 PM |
Sorry but YOUR face. Not you
Sorry but YOUR face. Not you
Sorry but YOUR face. Not you are face. Now I'm definitely an asshole.
"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"
October 18th, 2012 at 9:48 PM |
Watch the video
Watch the video
This kid flopped better than any soccer player I have seen in twenty years. He obviously doesn't take to coaching very well. Instead of sucking it up and being a man, he has chosen to allow his ego to run the show.
Football is a man's sport; this kid obviously has no business trying to play it. I would imagine he has already started the wheels in motion for a lawsuit. Vince Lombardi wouldn't last a month in today's coaching paradigm.
He's right that if he had done the same thing, he would have lost his scholarship and maybe been facing consequences through the school and risked his status as a student there. I might think going after him criminally is the wrong way to go, but if the police and the DA see something criminal, he's within his rights to press charges.
This is the first I've heard of this story, but I'd be surprised if the coach isn't suspended/fired/whatever after the video got out, especially in today's world.
"We bring you to Michigan to take care of Michigan; your job is to protect that block M."
-Carol Hutchins