Brhino

November 30th, 2015 at 3:13 PM ^

From browsing the Penn State blog, I expect they'll be ecstatic about that.

They'll also expect that they're bringing in Chip Kelly as their new OC.

ijohnb

November 30th, 2015 at 3:23 PM ^

for PSU, I think they have two choices - Hire Chip Kelly i.e. a very big splash hire or accept their fate as a middling BIG team.  The Sandusky stain won't fade easily and MSU and OSU have big head starts on them and they just got lapped by Michigan in the race for relevance.  It is put up or shut up time in Happy Valley and Franklin will not do.  This was the token "Borges fire" but they are going to have to get real pretty quick as to whether they want to be a player or not.

Gentleman Squirrels

November 30th, 2015 at 3:14 PM ^

I believe this was posted in another thread yesterday. I think we should just have a permanent coaching carousel thread until all of it dies down. Will save a lot of new threads from popping up.

evenyoubrutus

November 30th, 2015 at 3:20 PM ^

That seems a bit impractical.  Boards posts cycle off the main page every 24 hours or so.  I don't see the problem of having new threads when stuff like this happens because most people aren't likely to keep going back and checking the same thread every day.

 

Then again, I'm not a mod so that's easy for me to say.

mGrowOld

November 30th, 2015 at 3:19 PM ^

In this case the post on the firing of the Penn State OC is about to knock off the front page of the sideboard the post on the firing of the Minnesota OC.

Wolverine 73

November 30th, 2015 at 3:24 PM ^

firing their offensive line coach too, or maybe the guy who recruits offensive linemen for PSU.  I wonder if this is motivated by a desire to persuade Hackenberg to return for another year?

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Mr Miggle

November 30th, 2015 at 4:37 PM ^

I've got Richt sitting out a year. It's rare for a fired coach to get another HC job immediately. He gets $4.1M next season for not coaching. Is Miami willing to pay that on top of his salary?

jmblue

November 30th, 2015 at 3:34 PM ^

I was thinking:  When was the last time firing a coordinator really made much of a positive difference for a team?  

I'm sure there are cases where it's made a difference, but it seems like most of the time it just presages the head coach eventually getting fired himself.

UMgradMSUdad

November 30th, 2015 at 6:28 PM ^

With Oklahoma, the improvement in offense might be more the new QB than the OC. Two years ago Oklahoma beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl.  Their offensive coaches didn't just suddenly turn stupid last year.  They had no good option at QB.  This year Baker Mayfield dropped into their laps because Kliff Kingsbury dragged his feet in granting the scholaship he'd promised Mayfield (who was a walk-on freshman starting QB). Without Mayfield, it's doubtful OU would be in the position they are today.

doggdetroit

November 30th, 2015 at 5:35 PM ^

Along those same lines, Mike Bellotti was a pretty good coach at Oregon. He had some great years but for the most part he averaged 4 losses each season running a pro style attack. In 2007, fresh off a 7-6 season he hired a little known offensive coordinator from UNH that ran an up tempo spread. That man? Chip Kelly. Kelly was such a good hire that Bellotti "retired" in 2008 after a 10 win season at the age of 59, turning things over to Kelly full time. Today, when you think of Oregon, you think of Kelly. Not Belotti, who essetially built Oregon's program. 

NuclearLion

November 30th, 2015 at 3:46 PM ^

in fact, allegedly donovan wanted to change some things around with the offense early in the season to better suit hackenburg's game, and franklin put the kibash on it. not loving some of the stuff that's being put out there recently.

i don't like penn state's chances of contending in the B1G east anytime soon...i hope you guys count your blessings that you had a guy like harbaugh available to get the program back on track. unless some kind of miracle happens, i see a long tread through national irrelevancy in penn state's future. maybe the pieces will fall into place in a decade or so.

jmblue

November 30th, 2015 at 4:00 PM ^

We certainly are fortunate that everything fell into place last year so that we could land a superstar coach.  But remember, that came after two disastrous hires.  The past decade of Michigan football has been pretty rough.  

We haven't been quite as fortunate as OSU, which had to suffer all of one down season in between Tressel and Meyer.

 

 

San Diego Mick

November 30th, 2015 at 3:50 PM ^

but I'm perfectly happy that he stays in Happy Valley and continues to coach PSU to middling levels, their fans are assholes and they deserve any shityness they can get bestowed upon them.

Trebor

November 30th, 2015 at 3:56 PM ^

Well, with Franklin's entire assistant tenure on offense (except a year as DB coach at East Stroudsburg), I'm not sure Donovan is the guy at fault here.

I'm thinking this goes about as well as Borges -> Nussmeier. We were all celebrating Borges getting canned, and saw Nussmeier's two years at Alabama as reason for optimism. WHOOPS.

NittanyFan

November 30th, 2015 at 4:32 PM ^

He's already (indirectly) blamed his struggles on his predecessor.

If you don't know the 3 envelopes joke from the business world, look it up.  I wouldn't be shocked if he's opening up that third envelope in approximately 52 weeks.