This is off topic but i cant start my own thread and this one is kind of depressing as it is, so i found this video that is legitimate showing that the score of the 2012 nba finals was changed. Its bad quality, but it isnt a scam or anything.
OT: Penn State emails reveal... stuff
Refs change 2-pointers to 3-pointers (and vise-versa) during stoppages in play. Also, sometimes the TV folks screw up and have the wrong score posted.
Bottom line: if the NBA was going to try to fix an NBA Finals, they wouldn't just take points away mid-game.
It's something completely unrelated. Maybe they were throwing a surprise birthday party and changed their minds. Maybe someone filled out their golf scorecard wrong, or someone in the office has terribly bad breath.
It doesn't have to be that they were covering up a heinous crime, right? Right? How can this keep getting more horrible?
Is that tweet legit? There's nothing about this on the CNN/360 website.
The text doesn't seem to follow the angle of the screen perfectly. Interesting.
fwiw... that email screenshot looks fishy. on the one hand, the buttons are 90s looking. on the other, it has a OS X Leopard (or later) look to the window (Textfields and window close, minimize and zoom) . Leopard was released in 2007.
Shhhh, we're MGoBooting them from the conference. Who needs a discerning eye?
Also, what email client puts its headers (From, To) in the message body on a non-forwarded message?
That isn't a true screenshot. The visual was produced for TV, presumably reproduced from the text of an actual email obtained by CNN.
Everyone of those crooked, sick bastards at psu is going to burn.
What, Mr. Curley? Just have the victims knocked off? What would be comfortable to you?
I think it's bogus; if it were real smoking-gun, the internets would be all over this by now. Also, what news organization releases bombshell news on friday night?
Anderson Cooper 360's official twitter feed was hyping the story like 2 hours ago.
Between two major Supreme Court rulings, uncontrolled wildfires in Colorado, and the large array ongoing issues in both Europe and the Middle East, further confirmation that PSU did not react properly in the Sandusky case ranks pretty low.
Who is being quoted in the email. Looks to me as if Curley is quoting an unknown person and sending email to Spanier and Schultz. I guess Curley could be quoting himself, but the email reads odd to me
CNN just make a mock-up to show on TV of emails that they had transcripts of.
I guess so, but in this instance I don't find the practice adequate.
How can this be from Anderson Cooper 360 from tonight when that show doesn't come on for another 32 minutes?
It's on at 8 and 10. Somehow.
Ah, yeah, that's right. My apologies.
The date of the email looked funny to me. I kept hearing Mcqueary witnessed the shower incident in 2002, and that was what was reported leading up to the trial, but I looked it up and Mcqueary changed it to 2001 in his testimony.
Just saying if anyone else noticed the same thing.
The idea that Joe Paterno, the most powerful man not just at the University but probably Western and Central Pennsylvania, knew of only one incident and did everything he could be asked to do was laughable to all but the fawning PSU faithful. Now evidence keeps trickling out to verify what common sense already told us:
Joe Paterno chose silence and cover up to uphold the public reputation of Penn State Football over true honor. The man with ultimate power let this slime continue to use his football program as a staging ground to attack children.
Agreed. He was the top dog at PSU and chose to bury the incident. The most shocking part is the others were going to do the right thing until they spoke with Joe.
After the story broke, his coments about just worrying and praying for the victims sure does ring hollow.
Wait, you are jumping to conclusions about a single email. Getting an email like this in legal discovery is a great starting point, but you need to see other correspondence before or after it, compare its date to other events (e.g. when did McQueary witness the assault in the shower?), and depose the participants to the email.
Did JoePa order the others not to disclose? Maybe. Maybe he acted emotionally or in some other way that caused the administrative knuckleheads to change course. Maybe the knuckleheads were covering their own tracks with an email that they thought might help them down the road. Maybe a half dozen of other possibilities.
This is a bad email for PSU, no doubt. However, what JoePa said in the meeting, whether there really was a meeting, and whether the email's author was being hones in the email are all open questions.
I'm basing it on the email AND the fact that Sandusky's actions were no secret to the PSU football staff and Joe Pa did NOTHING to stop young boys from being abused. Hey Jerry, you can even have access to the football facilities and keep on bringing kids over, that's fine. You've only been caught twice.
I'm beyond tired of people sticking up for JoePa.
Here's a link to the Anderson Cooper 360 clip on the emails.
What a shame. Joe Pa could have just said "Get the fuck out of here, you sick motherfucker" and retained his legend status. The fact that they had to cover shit up is ridiculous.
Follow the money. That's why it was covered up. It will all come out in time.
Just a minor point in the overall scheme of this scandal, but can we all remember that you should never build a statue of a living person?
What do they do with this thing now?
It's probably under a sheet in a warehouse somewhere. I'mn sure that someday they hope to be able to put it back up somewhere.
Have heard otherwise. Thanks.
Still up and it has heavy security around it, at least when I passed though. Although security on it might be scaled back now.
on campus that included Sandusky's image - that was altered by the artist to take Sandusky out.
Melt it down and donate the profits to a children's charity.
it seems to me that even if the general PSU fund takes a big hit with civil lawsuits and fines, it's really the athletic program that was being protected by those in charge. And specifically, the football program. What really drove the decision(s) to protect the Monster Sandusky was related to the reputation and money-generating ability of the football program, including Saint Paterno. So logically, if justice is to be served in relation to Penn State's culpability in this case, there should be severe penalties levied on the football program as well. I doubt PSU will do that internally, so either the NCAA or Big Ten will need to take action. Yes, they let most of the football staff go, but that doesn't go far enough. I would like to see at least a 3 year bowl ban and loss of at least 6 scholarships per year for 5 years.
I want them gone from the Big Ten. No other penalty will make me happy.
Ideally the B10 will just drop PSU. But that won't happen because so much money is involved.
There's another school that would love to take their place and how much money is psu going to be worth when all is said and done? How much are they worth for all the bad publicity they bring to the conference? Dump them.....now.
I just seems wierd establishing a scholarship reduction policy on child molestation. Maybe the appropriate thing to do would be to suspend the football program for a couple years.
but then you're punishing players for the actions of previous administrators. I'd like to see everyone involved in the cover-up thrown in jail for a few years. Loss of voting rights, loss of careers. Civil suits erase bank accounts. Then they need to come back to the real world and try to adjust to the harsh realities - just like Sandusky's victims. That seems about right to me.
Everyone who knew about this should join Sandusky in jail
That's interesting because I've often wondered who knew about this outside the program. You know sone other coaches around the country had to have heard something about this.
Considering Sandusky just "retired" out of nowhere and never got a head coaching offer when he was one of the top DC's in the nation should tell you a lot.
EDIT: Also, considering a 22 year old female broke the story by asking questions to people around Happy Valley, I'm guessing a lot of people at least knew a rumor or two about it.
Not long ago, I watched the '99 PSU game on tape. The announcers made a huge deal about how we "spoiled Sandusky's last game at Beaver Stadium." I'm glad we could at least do that to him.
This is one of my all time favorite victories to rewatch. But it's so weird to watch it now because it's a 3 hour lovefest for Sandusky. The camera zooms in on him over 20 times. The Aflac trivia question is about him. Brent Musberger and Gary Danielson kiss his ass non-stop.
Just look at these screen shots...
This last photo shows Sandusky hugging his son John.
He just took a boner hug. These people suck for covering stuff up.