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December 29th, 2011 at 6:36 PM | I dunno (Score:1)
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Wisconsin looks to be establishing themselves and OSU we knew was never going to be down and out.  This opens the door for a team like illinois to rise up with the right coaching hire.

Plus, I doubt PSU tanks.  Maybe they have some mediocre years but there are enough kids in PA that grew up on PSU football that they should be ok.  Personally I think PSU should get the death penalty for this but I thought OSU would get the exact same penalties as USC. 

Maybe with the new B1G-Pac12 cooperation we can convince ND to join by promising we will boot out PSU.  ND for PSU is a clean swap given the current divional alignment.

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December 29th, 2011 at 3:45 PM | Mangino (Score:1)
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would be the perfect hire.  The children could run away from him.

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December 29th, 2011 at 3:50 PM | Mangini =/= Mangino. (Score:2)
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Mangini =/= Mangino.

"We've beaten Michigan the last four years.  So where's the threat?"

- Mark Dantonio

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December 29th, 2011 at 3:57 PM | I think what makes it confusing... (Score:5 Normal)
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...is that if you ever learned Latin you know that Mangini is a plural form, when in fact Mangino makes two of him.

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December 29th, 2011 at 3:54 PM | That's just wrong (Score:1)
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December 29th, 2011 at 3:47 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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Bradley may well be a terrific guy. But I just don't see how the brass can hire any coach who worked under Joe. There's just too much smoke.

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December 29th, 2011 at 4:43 PM | Not that I ever like agreeing (Score:1)
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Not that I ever like agreeing with Barry Switzer, but his comment that everyone on the coaching staff knew about Sandusky is probably true. 

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December 29th, 2011 at 3:49 PM | Nobody that has either a head (Score:4 Normal)
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Nobody that has either a head coaching job right now, or the prospects of one within a couple years, would ever take the PSU job.  Pile the scandal on top of the well-known pitfalls of following a legend, and the job is pure poison.

"We've beaten Michigan the last four years.  So where's the threat?"

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December 29th, 2011 at 3:52 PM | Eric Mangini does NOT (Score:1)
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= Mark Mangino, correct?  I'm pretty certain Eric Mangini can out run Mark Mangino.

O-Fo-Sho

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December 29th, 2011 at 3:54 PM | I think Lou Holtz is available (Score:1)
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December 29th, 2011 at 3:55 PM | hmmmmm.. (Score:2)
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Well, this guy is available...

...and it's not like a show/cause would be a problem; given the new familiarity with hearings in State College.

If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone

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December 29th, 2011 at 5:00 PM | god (Score:2 Normal)
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i hate that fucking picture.

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December 29th, 2011 at 5:06 PM | I love that pic (Score:1 Normal)
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I love that pic now that the chips have fallen.  The guy is a whore...full of false modesty and drunk with ambition.  The pic sums it up perfectly.

We're gonna play with toughness, we're gonna be responsible and we're gonna play with toughness.  This is Michigan.

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December 29th, 2011 at 10:18 PM | I have seen better versions (Score:1)
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I have seen better versions of that picture elsewhere.

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December 29th, 2011 at 3:58 PM | PSU just needs to suck it up (Score:2)
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PSU just needs to suck it up and hire a coach that may not be qualified but will without a doubt say "yes" to the job.  If the guy works out then great, if not they can hire someone new when their job is actually one that coaches want again.

"Relax you panic monger" -Megatron

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December 29th, 2011 at 3:59 PM | Has Schiano (Score:2)
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accepted -- and rejected -- the job yet?

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December 29th, 2011 at 4:04 PM | ex player (Score:1)
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i would try and hire an ex player, not involved with the program the past several years, in an effort to uphold tradition without the baggage. a matt millen type, but not matt millen.

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December 29th, 2011 at 4:08 PM | The problem with this (Score:1)
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is that you have to go back a long way to avoid the baggage. You have to go back 12 years just to get to the guys that played under Sandusky. You have to go back 52 years to get to the guys that pre-date him.

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December 29th, 2011 at 4:05 PM | In all seriousness... (Score:5 Normal)
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... I can't think of anyone more qualified at this point than Luke Fickell. He's got experience running a B1G-level program, if only briefly, and lord knows he's got plenty of experience getting a program through a period of scandalous disarray.

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December 30th, 2011 at 12:28 AM | Not happening (Score:2 Normal)
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I don't see Luke leaving OSU right now for another B1G school.  If he leaves, it's for a Big East or MAC school where he can focus on winning and building a reputation (for something other than caretaking programs going through major scandals). 

Even aside from the Sandusky thing, once the NCAA starts fishing around, there will be sanctions.  Penn State's reported one secondary violation in the last 10 years.  There is no way in hell that a school Penn State's size doesn't commit secondaries on a regular basis. 

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December 29th, 2011 at 4:11 PM | NFL Firings (Score:2)
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They may look to an NFL coach who's looking for a job, particularly if such a coach has a modicum of experience at the college level.

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December 29th, 2011 at 4:27 PM | Lurking... (Score:2)
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not far from the Everglades...

Al Golden.

His contract extension at the U means nothing.

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December 29th, 2011 at 4:45 PM | Hard to believe that Miami (Score:1)
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Hard to believe that Miami could have less turmoil than Penn State after all of the NCAA violatons came to light earlier this year.

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December 29th, 2011 at 5:35 PM | Outside of NCAA rules, do you (Score:0 Overrated)
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Outside of NCAA rules, do you really think that what happened at PSU and what happened at Miami are comparable?

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December 30th, 2011 at 12:27 AM | That was my point. (Score:1)
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That was my point.

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December 29th, 2011 at 4:56 PM | I think Golden would be a (Score:2)
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I think Golden would be a good choice. He's an alum, but he was never directly coached by Sandusky. He was an assistant there but only for one year, after Sandusky retired. He could also leave Miami and not look like a Todd Graham asshole, given the fact that he was blindsided by the epic NCAA scandal brewing there.

I'm surprised I haven't heard his name tossed around the rumor mill. Penn State may be going overboard in its effort to make a clean break.  

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December 29th, 2011 at 10:24 PM | that ship has sailed (Score:1)
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he practically begged for the job before Miami.  Rumor was that he was told next hire would have no ties to Joe.  That was before the who children thing erupted.  Renegotiating with Miami was a 'thanks,but no thanks' for psu.

the only rumors I'm hearing are b list guys.  Amaker like hires that are safe.  Everyone else is turning them down.  Even schiano  would rather stay at rutgers.

zook  is available?

 

 

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December 29th, 2011 at 4:43 PM | In the end, they may have to (Score:2)
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In the end, they may have to give the job to Bradley because they won't be able to find anyone else even remotely qualified who is willing to go near it. They'll then fudge the results of their investigation to show that Bradley barely knew Sandusky and had no reason to know about any of what went on. 

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December 29th, 2011 at 4:52 PM | Plenty of decent candidates for Penn State out there still (Score:1)
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Unfortunately Penn State appears not to be considering any of them:

John Hufnagel , PA product, former PSU QB 1970-1972, CFL star, current HC of Calgary Stampeders.  Nice coaching record in the CFL here.

Mark Farley (Northern Iowa). No Penn State ties, but  consistent winner with consecutive tournament appearances at school with establish footbal program.

Craig Bohl (North Dakota State).  Nebraska product under Tom Osborne teams that beat Penn State twice (1979 42-17 in Lincoln and 1980 21-7 at State College) and was Husker DC under Frank Solich 2000-2002.  NDSU Bison are now 13-1, have demolished most of their competition and are playing #1 Sam Houston State for the FCS title on Jan 7.

Bob Nielson,  Iowa product (Wartburg), current Minn-Duluth HC, 90-24 at UMD including 15-0 seasons in 2008 and 2010 and Div II national titles.  

These guys are still young and winning quite a few games in recent years.

Hope they find a replacement soon.

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December 29th, 2011 at 5:36 PM | Dear Mr. Brandon: Can you (Score:1)
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Dear Mr. Brandon:

Can you use your pimp hand to get Michigan into the BiG Legends Division for 5 years?  We will swap with Wisconsin so Barry Alvarez can play Nebraska every year until he retires.  We believe that the BiG will be a more balanced conference with that move.

Thanks,

Michigan fans 

"I would hope that understanding and reconciliation are not limited to the 19th hole alone." - President Gerald R Ford, Michigan '35

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December 29th, 2011 at 8:14 PM | lol Penn State (Score:1)
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Mangini? I remember when he was supposed to lead the Cleveland Browns into the promised land. Unfortunately 5-11 may be the Browns' peak anyways.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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