OT Pelini Fired

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Per Adam Rittenberg, Bo Pelini has been let go at Nebraska

Mr. Yost

November 30th, 2014 at 12:39 PM ^

This is the logic of fans.

People, it's not a fucking Fantasy Football draft. It's not a waiver wire.

Nebraska and Florida are not ahead of Michigan for anything...just relax. It's not like they have a head start and you have to recruit coaches like the NCAA Football video game.

#1 - Coaches have agents...if a coach wants to coach at Michigan or anywhere else. His agent can find out who to contact and that school can contact that agent.

#2 - Good coaches are STILL coaching! So yes, Nebraska and Florida have a head start for the services of John Gruden and Greg Schiano. We're doomed.

#3 - All schools are not going after the same candidates...duh. Nebraska and Florida are no further with the Harbaugh's. Just like Nebraska would be the obvious choice for Scott Frost or Craig Bohl --- even if Hoke was fired today, Nebraska was be the obvious choice for those coaches.

There really isn't one name out there that firing Hoke today and joining this imaginary race helps you with right now. If Hoke is fired. Nebraska is still going to lead for their obvious leading candidates (Frost/Bohl/Stitt). Michigan is still going to lead for theirs (Harbaugh/Harbaugh/Miles).

R-E-L-A-X

 

Leonhall

November 30th, 2014 at 12:46 PM ^

No shit! People think that the only way we can contact agents or representatives is if we fire Hoke. If we are firing Hoke, we have already started the process and are not "losing" some imaginary race with other teams who have fired theirs.




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MWolverine7

November 30th, 2014 at 12:38 PM ^

Guys I think we are going to know soon enough as to whether a silent commitment does indeed exist with Harbaugh. If this drags out longer than expected, I think we can easily conclude that they are protecting Harbaugh from the questions that will come once Hoke is fired. I know there is some doubt about Hackett after what happened with DB, but Hackett is not dumb. If he's got Harbaugh in his back pocket he's going to do what he needs to do regardless of how we feel. I'll be patient if it brings Jimmy home...I don't want to settle this time.




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Mr. Yost

November 30th, 2014 at 12:50 PM ^

Or we're protecting all potential candidates from questions.

Like I said, unless your guy is available right this moment. There is truly to rush.

Once that bowl season really kicks in...then start to panic if Brady Hoke is still the Ira B. whatever it's called.

We sound like a bunch of high school boys going to their first dance...gotta get their early so we get first pick at all the ladies. Only thing is, the ladies don't show up until an hour in.

Poor analogy, but the point is, there's no reason to rush this. It can't help anything, it can only hurt (by creating a media storm around someone).

Just chill. Go get an f-ing AD. And in 2 weeks, let's make that annoucement. The semester ends, fall commencement is over, break starts...get out of dodge for the holiday. Come back in late Decemeber and get your guy.

Now if you guy becomes available before then, shit, you fire Hoke before he can finish saying "weeeelllllllll...."

But it's unlikely any candidate that we'd want will be available. Nebraska is in a much better situation. They have a hot offensive coordinator and a coach at Wyoming as top candidates.

They can fire Pelini now and fill their position in 2 weeks because it's easy for both of those guys to leave their current situations from the Nebraska job.

We don't have that luxury.

Say Scot Loeffler was tearing it up as OC for an undefeated Virginia Tech team. Or Teryl Austin had more experience and was a big time get.

Hoke would be gone. Those are guys we'd all want and would be obvious choices for Michigan. There would be no time to waste.

But everyone's top three canidates are head coaches. 2 in the NFL and 1 coaching one of the best seasons (if not THE best season) in his schools StarkVegas history.

UMxWolverines

November 30th, 2014 at 12:59 PM ^

I can't believe their AD had the stones to do this. 

The thing is though after such long conference title droughts Nebraska and Michigan have basically been selling hope for the future for years. How do you sell hope after a guy goes 9-4 every year for 7 years? At some point even the most loyal fans such as Nebraska and Michigan can't stand it anymore. 

I've been reading their message boards occasionally and they have similar problems that we do. They have a sellout streak that dates back to the 60s but they know it's bullshit just like we know the 100,000 streak is bullshit. They were saying they were giving away tickets this year too. 

And now of course our AD will drag this thing out AGAIN and if we don't get Harbaugh or Miles what do we do? Hoke needs to be gone TOMORROW. 

Jack Harbaugh

November 30th, 2014 at 1:32 PM ^

No, you keep Hoke until you have Miles or Harbaugh in front of a contract and they start to sign that paper. Otherwise you end up with 2011 all over again and don't get the guy you want. At this point, unless we get someone better than Hoke, we hold onto him for another year and see if he can right the ship. Obviously at that point the AD needs to force him to make some positional coaching changes starting with an actual QB coach.

Mr. Yost

November 30th, 2014 at 1:15 PM ^

But do we want Golden?

I haven't heard one name mentioned on here other than Mullen, who's not leaving Mississippi State before their bowl game...that Michigan fans are interested in.

The "coaching carousel" this year is very divided. Seems like everyone already has ties somewhere.

Other than Mullen, there aren't very many hot candidates that are largely unaffliated.

No Charlie Strong or James Franklin. No super hot coordinator on either side of the ball. No midmajor coach who's dominated for a couple years and ready to take on the big boys.

Maybe if UCF dominated for another year and they didn't have O'Leary their coach would be a hot name. But that's not the case. UConn was good way back when and Edsall was "the guy." When Boise and TCU started up it was Patterson and Petersen.

This year doesn't have any coaches like that. Guys ready to take that big leap into the Power 5. 

So with that in mind, I don't know what all of the fuss is about. 99% of this board wants one of two guys with CLEAR Michigan ties - and both are in the NFL. So who cares if Nebraska gets Golden or whoever they hire. They're not hiring a Harbaugh, so what's it to us?

ChicagoB1GRed

November 30th, 2014 at 1:10 PM ^

I'm grateful to coach Pelini for pulling us up from the coach Callahan debacle. He took us to 3 conference  championship games and only a few other coaches won at least 9 games every year like he did in his seven years. He ran a clean program, high grad rate, minimal off-field issues, his players liked him and never quit on him (see this week's Iowa game).

Bottem line, despite all that, no championships over a certain amount of time doesn't cut it at Nebraska, or at Michigan, and never will. It's not easy, though, finding a coach who can meet our expectations and standard, as we've both seen. This will be our 4th attempt and your 3rd.

Good luck on your search and next season, Go Big Red!

smwilliams

November 30th, 2014 at 1:12 PM ^

I get why they fired Pelini, but they better be careful with their next choice. Pelini was probably their John Cooper, but he still won 9-10 games regularly. Bill Callahan won 6-7 games a season. We've seen what consecutive bad coaching hires have done here and at Tennessee.

Weird that they fired him after beating Iowa, as well.

ehatch

November 30th, 2014 at 1:23 PM ^

I would take Pelini as Head Coach over just about everyone else on our CC lists, except Harbaugh.  I would have some serious hesitations, though:

1) His QB play has been woeful over the past few years.  With our QB situation next year, not sure he would win right away.  

2) His defenses never seemed to live up to the Blackshirt moniker, despite coming from a Defensive background.  Though he might have a lot more talent to work with here.

3) His "Fans can go fuck themselves" attitude isn't the best.  We just ran one guy out of town with that attitude, not sure we want to bring another one in.  

Sambojangles

November 30th, 2014 at 1:31 PM ^

For everyone saying that Michigan should wait before firing Hoke, you're implying that Michigan's athletic department, with an interim director with no experience, knows more about how to do this than the directors at Nebraska and Florida. I don't know much about either, and they could very well be incompetent nicompoops as well, but I kind of doubt it.

m1jjb00

November 30th, 2014 at 1:41 PM ^

They don't trust leadership at Michigan.  You can argue Hackett is new, was successful, blah, blah blah.  You can argue that it makes more sense to keep Hoke around a couple weeks. They're all reasonable points.  

On the other hand, It's Michigan fregoshsakes, so of course they can do something totally stupid like keep Hoke.  Firing Hoke is the only way for people to be convinced that Michigan isn't going to keep him.  I think distrust is a broader issue in America, but this isn't the place to develop that theme.  With Michigan, however, distrust is very well earned.  So, I don't blame anyone for arguing that it needs to have been done yesterday.

Cold War

November 30th, 2014 at 1:52 PM ^

Nebraska is kidding themselves and we may be as well. The days of Osborne and Schembechler are long gone. If we were competitive with Ohio and beat little brother more often than not, I'd be pretty happy with the kind of records Pelini often put up.

LSAClassOf2000

November 30th, 2014 at 1:57 PM ^

In case anyone is interested, the players at Nebraska are not at all happy - LINK

The SBNation story highlights some select tweets and comments. Indeed, they are actively critical of the decision. Indeed, OL Matt Finnin, in his own words as an example:

 

seabass1974

November 30th, 2014 at 2:26 PM ^

Nebraska is about to become Michigan West. I read the article about them looking for someone who knows the Nebraska culture, has been at Nebraska before and is a "Nebraska Man". Welcome to our hell Nebraska. Hopefully ours is about to end.

Ghost of Fritz…

November 30th, 2014 at 3:29 PM ^

First, though he was known as an excellent defensive mind when Nebraska hired him, have any of Pelini's Nebraska teams had an outstanding defense? 

I guess 'superb defense' just is not something that I associate with Nebraska lately.

Second, if Pelini were the DC at OSU, would there be huge shouting matches every Saturday between Meyer and Pelini on the sidelines?

mgohusker

November 30th, 2014 at 3:41 PM ^

Eichorst is a Wisconsin weasel who has done nothing but hire Badger cronies since the Nebraska chancellor anointed him AD.

I can't wait for the Husker Nation reaction when they find out their coaching upgrade is a 19-19 coach from Pitt.

JuniorHemingwaySr

November 30th, 2014 at 9:00 PM ^

Bo Pelini was an underrated coach. The fact that he kept that team mediocre in today's college football climate is miraculous. The world has turned a few times since '97, but most Nebraska fans are unwilling to accept that. I have to believe this is the last time Nebraska fires a guy that is 9-3. Jeez, Nebraska, quit resting on the laurels of past decade.

 

 

 

Mpfnfu Ford

November 30th, 2014 at 9:11 PM ^

Nebraska and Oklahoma are similar jobs in that they have almost no in-state talent to recruit. Their name brand allows them to recruit out of state, but they really need to have something a bit unusual offensively or defensively that they own that allows them to target their recruiting.

Look at how much more successful Stoops was at Oklahoma when the Air Raid was new and fresh, as compared to now. Nebraska needs to find something weird to build around. If not adopting Oregon's system under Frost, then I think they should hire Calhoun from Air Force and run his multiple formation up tempo triple option system.