OT: Pacquiao-Bradley Open Thread

The rational thinker in me says Pacquiao by (Arum influenced) decision. He's the golden goose for Top Rank.

Should Pacquiao win I can sigh with derision as he comes up with new and innovative ways to avoid beating of a lifetime that Money Mayweather would put on him.

Also, WTF is this with Pacquiao slow rolling in getting gloved. #unprofessional

let's go already

Pacquiao is not taking this seriously enough...If Bradley was more of a power puncher I would definitley bet on a KO...however I will go with Bradley in a UD

what a horrible singer

my ears are bleeding

anyone know why bradley was wearing a michigan shirt in his training video?

Bradley is a damn good fighter, not the guy Manny wants to take lightly.  Especially since he wasn't very sharp v. Marquez.

He won't be playing this song for his next fight.

Buffer must be damn near 70, but he never ages.

off his voice?

Pacman looked bad for 2 minutes and 30 seconds and then he won the round.

Pacquiao...sucks for 2 mins. lands three shots...wins the round...no wonder boxing is getting killed by mma of late. Jeebus.

If this fight goes late rounds I think Pac has it.

bradley is going down....too many straight lefts.

I am intrigued by the HBO crew minimizing Bradley hitting Pacquiao. It seems that Bradley is hitting him well but the HBO crew won't acknowledge it.

Manny looks too confident.

Where are all the guys predicting a Bradley win?

Pacquiao looking good

he was saved by the bell

Watching this fight makes me consider how easy a fight Pacquiao would be for Mayweather. It's no wonder Pacquiao ducks him in such a cowardly way.

Bradley is showing a tremendous amount of heart, but at this point it looks like he doesn't belong in the same ring as Manny.

These announcers are so bad. I almost want to turn off the sound

I also love how perception colors reality. 

Manny smiles in the ring at fighters and announcers = having fun.

Floyd smiles in the ring at fighters and announcers= What a cocky, arrogant, son of a bitch! Disgusting!

If anything is clear based on these last two fights, Manny and Floyd have both lost a step.

for posting the link

At this point the only danger for Pac is if he gases. I think he's going to coast from here on out. 

Pac answered alot of the questions I had after the JMM fight.

If Pac fights like this against Floyd he'll get tooled.

But this fight will make him a lot better fighter in the future.

Glad it's free

People still care about boxing?

Hey! Bradley won a round.

I am glad Pacquiao is looking this good. 

Please allow for your loyal subject Manny Pacquiao to fight Floyd Mayweather now. I understand all he will earn is $40 million. Sometimes you have to sacrifice in this life. In your promotion, you can't make any fights that matter, apparently (or at least any that anyone will pay for). I understand that Pacquiao is the last fighter you have that matters but, realistically, what legacy will he have if all he does is duck the best fighter of the era.

Given the current "product" you're putting out there...what other choice do you have?

Ok let's see a PBF v Pacman fight now before these guys are too old and nobody cares anymore.

I guess when you are that good you can watch a basketball game instead of preparing for your huge title fight.

WTF were these judges smoking? HOLY FUCK

WHAT?!?!?!?

Man, I thought Bob Arum had more pull.

Wow. Blind judges.

Congrats bradley. didn't see that coming

Wow

HBO announcers completely wrong. They are like Pam Ward.

hahah this is awesome!

props to bradley!

fillipinos will run amok on the Strip!

What a joke. Im not even a fan of boxing and i thought manny dominated

I guess Pacquiao should have taken Floyd's money last year. It has to suck to leave $40 millon dollars on the table. #karma

fuck this I defend boxing all the time, but fuck this

now that I think about it, I wonder if Arum is going to milk this for the rematch.

but the HBO seems to think Pac man was cheated. Is this correct?

I dead seriously think Floyd paid off the judges so that he could say Manny isn't worth his time. This is such a joke. Boxing is a farce.

I am completely amazed.

I seriously would not want to be Bradley if there is a rematch....I think pacman might literally kill this guy...that was bullshit.

November 10 rematch.

Congratulations Bob Arum.

So now you get another payday for Pacquiao and he gets to avoid Mayweather.

Well played Bob, well played.

I'm watching the British feed, and they have a FAR different perception of the fight than the HBO guys. It was much closer to them than what the HBO guys were saying. Some of them gave the first two rounds to Bradley.

Pac got robbed, but he gave away the entire second half of the fight, and basically shut it down after the 7th round. So if a dumb judge gives one or two of the early rounds the Bradley, then he's gonna win the fight. If this shows anything, you can't give away rounds.

It's like Dana White always says, "Don't let it get into the hands of the f*cking judges!"

Pac got robbed though, and that's the bottom line.

In other news, I can hear Floyd's maniacal laughter all the way from his prison cell.

I just rewatched rounds 11 and 12 and I guess you could maybe give him those, but still that is only 4 rounds and I think it is a reach to give him those.

I really don't think it was even that close. Bradley seemed to struggle with landing shots that had an effect on Manny. Manny landed more power punches, more punches, had a higher percentage of punches landed, but also his punches seemed to have way more effect on Bradley than the punches he took.

But I still think he got robbed.

I've read a lot of posts on here about Manny "avoiding" Floyd. You guys can't be serious or you obviously don't follow boxing. If anything it's been the exact opposite with Floyd's camp constantly coming up with something to not make it happen.

When the fighter who won, Bradley, states that he has to watch the tape to see if he won it is a sad day for boxing.

I'm never ordering a boxing PPV ever again...The sport died hard today with millions and they deserve it with that fucking joke.

Tomorrow I think I'll watch the whole fight over again with no sound, but I still can't see my opinion changing much. I mean the announcers were calling it for Bradley early in round 1 when he was in control and in round 10 which he also won.

and very knowledgeable, in fact Sandy, my GF could easily be a boxing judge, trust me when I say that that was the biggest bunch of bullshit! Also, I used to box, this was a joke!

We both had Manny winning 11 rounds to 1, 119-109 was what that score should've been, shameful fucking corrupt and makes me sick to my stomach! He fucking out-punched him by close to a 100 punches and they were way more impactful, SMH!

I am in shock right now. I thought pacquiao lost his last fight but this wasnt very close. I have a hard time believing that this wasn't fixed. I don't know what to say. It seems like they may be forcing pacquiao vs mayweather to try and keep boxing alive.

I think that the judges did not want to think that they had fixed things for Manny after the previous controversy, so they decided if the match was close, they go against Manny. It wasn't really all that close though.

People there is video to prove anything these days. Bob recently admitted he's had a 50/50 contract for 3 years they didn't want. As soon as Floyd says something is off the table that is what Bob wants. So it can look like he's trying. In truth he wants to collect from both sides. But let's go back
Dec 2009, both sides agree to terms then Pac backs out with a fear of needles, Roach says they need 3 days for Manny to feel right, Floyd agrees to that and team Pac backs out wanting 7, Floyd agrees and teamPac backs out needing 30 days. Floyd agreed to the fight 3 times and Pac changed his needs 3 times. You don't agree to a fight as a means to duck.
Jan 2010 Bob pulls out of negotiations, Floyd says we do it now or I'll never offer a cutoff date again.
This is going to be too long so I'll skip to this year
Jan 2012 "Mannys cut won't allow him to fight May 5th"
upon hearing Floyd is going to jail Bob says "Manny may take that date"
upon hearing Floyd pushed back his turn in date until June 1st "well this fight is too big, we need a temporary stadium that will be finished late May"
If people still buy Bobs tricks I pitty them, BTW where is the stadium Bob?haha
If you need any proof Bob set this sham decision up for the rematch, watch the post fight presser where they are already advertising the rematch, date, venue and all. He is old but he's still the Bobfather

Not sure why anyone is really surprised....if anything ole bob now has people talking about bradley/pac 2 instead of any kind of bout with Floyd.

Khan sure as hell isn't going to fight floyd either. Hell the only reason Cotto fought him is because he got out of top rank.

The only fight which would be fun to watch down the line is a floyd/canelo fight. Those 2 will be avoided by Arum like the plague. Arum will continue to keep his guys fighting in house and unless he passes very quickly some of these big fights will never happen.

I can honestly see how someone would score the fight for Bradley.

I thought Pac won, and was robbed, but a case could be made that Bradley stole 1 of the first 2 rounds, round 5, and took 5 of the last 6.

Pac coasted the entire second half of the fight and let Bradley get back into it. Re-watch it, and mute the volume. IDK what happened but he started coasting,  not doing much and trying to steal every round with a flurry at the end. Bradley established his jab late, and did a nice job of effectively counter punching Pac.

It's Pac's own fault he lost. Yes, he was robbed, but you don't have any control over the judges. You only have control over what you do, and IMO, Pac gave away quite a few rounds late. Any one of which, would have saved him.

This is the worst decision I have seen in boxing.  It looks more like the WWE than boxing, with the exception that nobody expects anyone to believe the WWE is authentic competition.

Decision I have seen since Mosley/DeLaHoya

Some people really dislike Manny Pacquiao or perhaps HBO's admiration of Manny because no one could make a logical argument Timothy Bradley won that fight. You don't win rounds for throwing punches, you win rounds for landing punches, something Bradley didn't do. I scored Pacquiao-JMM 3 a draw, but could've seen a case being made for either guy winning.

There is no case to be made. Pacquiao landed more punches, more power punches, connected with a higher percentage. He won the fight. ESPN had it 119-109. HBO had it 119-109. Every other media outlet had it scored either 119-109 or 118-110. I thought Bradley won the 2nd round and the 12th.

I, for one, never plan on watching boxing again. And I was looking forward to Mayweather's next fight, Manny's next fight, Ward vs Dawson, Khan vs Garcia, even Chavez vs Lee next weekend. But, I'm done.

that something to do with a boxing match appears corrupt or otherwise not on the level.

If Pacquiao were to fights like that against Money, he would get fucked up...No contest ...