They are on the slow path to extinction. Not enough to offer in today's CFB landscape.
OT: Pace of Nebraska Recruiting
Back in the day, they used to be able to feed their no-name farmboys steaks laced with 'roids. Add some weight training and they had everything they needed to slowly wear down just about any team.
Quite often, the scores of games against Iowa State, Kansas, et al. were 14-0/17-0 at halftime. Check back midway through the 4th quarter (when the other team was completely spent) and it would be 55-0/63-0.
Dean Steinkuhler sends his regards.
It's weird to read that the Outland winner only weighed 273 - and bench-pressed 350. And that was an admitted steroid user. Offensive linemen today are routinely 40-50 pounds heavier than that and can bench a lot more than that. Makes you wonder...
I mention this often. The legend of the 175 pound freshman who turns into a "corn-fed," 325 pound senior starter faded rather quickly once the NCAA started testing for steroids.
I really love the penalty for a "double clutch" on the save button.
College football has changed, and Nebraka geographically and demographically is being put behind the eight ball. Not to mention the recruiting game has changed, and depending on official visits from a prospects senior season is putting them way behind in the race for the best as well.
If that were true, Chris Peterson couldn't have had Boise State winning for as long as he has. They're no less isolated, and they don't have the history.
Is Nebraska anymore "isolated" than Oklahoma or Wisconsin? Kansas State put together some pretty decent teams while being "isolated". I'm not discounting the article's points, but the assumption which some people are making is that Nebraska is doomed, and I don't believe that at all.
Oklahoma borders Texas, one of the most fertile recruiting grounds in the nation, and gets a lot of prospects from there. Kansas St popped up the last two years, and did previously during the Sproles years; Snyder is a good coach. But even they haven't reach the consistancy. And yes, UW is the exception to the isolated, low "talent", team that everybody always points to (which also plays in the terrible B1G). But there's a reason they're the exception: it's because they're like the only one whose been able to do that. I wouldn't want to have to be the exception to the rule if I were Nebraska.
Snyder has historically recruited lower rated players. He's the anti-Urban Meyer, in that he could give a rip how the services rank/rate a player. He watches in-depth film and evaluates the player's character. The results have been very good.
He's one of the greatest college football coaches ever. Doing what he did at K-State (twice) is amazing.
I'm too lazy to go look up all of them, but I'd be willing to bet a good percentage of those players were high profile recruits their senior year of high school.
It looks like in 2012 he signed 8.
doesn't really feel isolated. It's in a beautiful area and a very nice campus. If I hadn't gone to Michigan, Wisconsin would have been in the running for my services.
I agree with that completely. But it has nothing to do with being far away from HS football talent.
True, but isn't there something to the idea that Nebraska just feels isolated? I mean, it's Nebraska fergodsakes... home of Children of the Corn. Not to mention that Madison is a well reputed college town while Lincoln is... ehm... have I mentioned Children of the Corn?
as many PEOPLE. Nebraska is one of the least-populous states.
And Madison is not that far from heavily populated areas like Chicago.
Madison has a lot more talent nearby than Lincoln, NE. For one thing, Illinois is literally in their back yard, and that's a fairly talent-rich state.
Norman is about as close to Dallas as Austin is. Madison is a short drive from Chicago. There is no major city within a 5-6 hour drive from Lincoln, NE.
My friend and I flew to Nebraska for the game last season. The only time we didn't feel like we were out in the middle of nowhere was when we were in Memorial Stadium.
The state of OK has way (way) more talent than NE, and they're very close to Dallas which has tons and tons. Wisconsin is a better example, but they usually start slow as well and don't typically recruit all that well (all four of their recruits right now are in-state). And Kansas State takes more JUCO transfers than any school in the country, but K-State also doesn't recruit well.
The article didn't say Nebraksa is bad because they are isolated, just that their recruiting gets delayed. K-State has a very good coach that makes the most of their lesser talent, and Wisconsin has done a good job of that lately as well.
Tulsa and OKC that are producers of D-1 talent along with the talent in military base cities such as Enid. And as already mentioned Dallas and KC are well within driving distance with the St. Louis area not that much farther away. Nebraska is in the middle of nowhere.
Most of the out of state students at OU are from the metro areas of Dallas Fort Worth, Houston, KC and St. Louis. Very few came from the metro Toledo area like me.
I live in Omaha, and my positions requires I cover all of the wonderful central states (NE, IA, KS, MO, OK, IL, MN, ND,SD,etc). It takes about 2.5hrs to get to Kansas City and around 6hrs to get to St Louis from Lincoln or Omaha. Manhattan KS is about 45min closer to each, but has nowhere near the facilities, funding, tradition or fan support that Nebraska has.
I think that the big challenge is more around Pellini and his personality/recruiting at the moment than anything else. I also get the feeling that he is close to being in a position to have a Big Ten Championship or else in Lincoln or he may be out the door. He was brought in here for his supposed defensive prowess and I think that pretty much began and ended with Suh and now that Osborne has retired and a new AD in place, I can see that changing. Callahan could recruit but he and the AD at the time were even more out of touch with the tradition and history in Lincoln than Rodriquez in AA.
If Pellini wins at least a Big Ten Championship, they will most likely at least maintain a battle with Penn State on 3/4 in the conference in recruiting when PSU exits purgatory. Even last year they had plenty of visits from big talents from CA, TX, etc during the season, so it is definitely possible to recruit to Lincoln, but the fact that Pellini is neck and neck with the doucebag in South Bend for potential to have a sideline aneurysm does not win him any points picking up the recruits. Winning more games and the backing is there to do well in Lincoln.
He was comparing Nebraska to Oklahoma, not Kansas State.
Nebraska will not win a Big Ten championship anytime soon. Their shot was last year when everything fell into place for them (which obviously fell way out of place during the championship game). They'll make their share of championship games, but they will then lose to whoever was better between us and OSU.
They have a pretty good shot this year at the Legends Div.
Don't know if they can win the B1G Championship game against OSU, but things happen. If something happens to Braxton Miller, OSU is crap.
Yes, I'd argue much more so. Oklahoma is very easy for recruits from Texas to come visit, as well as some other close southern states that produce good talent. Wisconsin is very close to the Chicago area, and Illinois in general usually fields good talent.
Nebraska is surrounded by absolutely nothing for hundreds of miles in any direction, and its not like the state produces a lot of top-flight talent anyway.
Something else that hasn't been brought up, but for any Texas recruits that are thinking about going up north to Oklahoma/KSU, well they're still gonna play like 2-3 games per year in Texas.
I'm not sure that the move to the Big Ten was a good one for Nebraska football. Actually, I'm pretty sure it was a bad one.
They lose their annual presence in TX which is a key recruiting ground for any Big XII team. Now they are just an out-of-the-way team that is out of sight out of mind in TX. They are reduced to having to fight for scraps in OH after OSU, Michigan, and even MSU are done there.
Nebraska must have really hated the University of Texas to put themselves in this postiton.
It has been mentioned already but it all depends on where you're recruiting base is. Oklahoma recruits Oklahoma and Texas, Wisonsin recruits Wisconsin, Chicago, and Ohio while Nebraska recruits Nebraska??? They used to draw quite a bit from Texas but with the recent move to the BIG that has changed.
Madison isn't isolated at all. In fact, it's not really all that hard to get to, given that Chicago is less than 2.5 hrs away.
Not exactly the same situation. The state of Oklahoma has a pretty solid base of recruits every year, almost comparable to Michigan. Then there's Texas, its border state, which is one of the 3 biggest recruiting states in the country. Texas may be large and spread out, but Michigan's recruiting spread is very comparable to Oklahoma's spread. Nebraska is literally in the middle of nowhere.
Here's a list of Nebraska's border states:
South Dakota, Iowa, Kansas, Colorado and Wyoming.
You could maybe include Missouri, which is probably the best recruiting state among those remotely close to them (Missouri or Colorado). Not to mention that the state of Nebraska isn't exactly known for it's elite football either. Sure, some eliteish guys can pop up here and there, but not near as frequent as even states like Michigan or Oklahoma.
Short story: The current recruiting trend does not assist Nebraska in any way.
Has Nebraska really been all that successful in recruiting? I've always seen it as one of Pelini's weaknesses (though the article added some additional perspective). Nebraska has the cache and facilities to be attracting top 10 classes every year; if I were a Husker fan, top 25 wouldn't be good enough for me.
Yes, during the Bill Calahan era they recruited very well. Pelini is the opposite of Calahan in just about every way there is possible.
That's not a bad thing.
Their aggregate recruiting class ranking to Rivals has put them in the top 3 of the Big Ten for the last four seasons (every year since 2009). So while they might not be recruiting well by historic Nebraska standards, they are still consistently outrecruiting 75% of the Big Ten.
Yeah, but that's not saying much. We had uncharacteristically mediocre classes for two of those four years (2010 and 2011) because of [**REDACTED**], and Penn State was running on autopilot for about the last 10 years of JoePa's career.
A program like Nebraska should be compared against the top-recruiting programs nationally, not to the rest of the Big Ten.
Recruiting is coaches working their tails off to get into recruits ears, heads and convince them this is the place for them no matter what school they are recruiting for.
Nebraska seems like they are way behind in the evaluation period as well not just sending out offers. They have litte buzz in recruiting so they are in trouble. Nebraska used to have the entire state run it's option offense for hs football so they could take walk on's on offense every yr that were tailor made to step in. That allowed them to focus a little heavier on defense in recruiting.
Nebraska isn't that far from texas, or certainly no further from texas than alabama is and other sec schools tha regularly recruit Texas....they just have to get out and work it., though Pelini has never been known for being a bigtime recruiter.
Your last paragraph just isn't true. Nebraska is certainly much farther away from Texas than nearly every SEC West team, certainly the ones that recruit Texas heavily (and Alabama is really not one of them, 2011-2014 they have 4 guys from Texas, two of which are from Houston which is way closer to Tuscaloosa than Lincoln).
Plus, the SEC West has the benefit of playing in Texas every other year, and a handful of games very close (LSU, Arkansas) and Nebraska can't offer that. Nebraska has actually started recruiting Ohio a lot more than Texas because they'll play closer to home (and Pelini is from there).
A major advantage Nebraska had in recruiting Texas was that they played in the Big 12 and usually had multiple road trips to the various Texas schools to sell. With Nebraska leaving the Big 12, Texas A&M joining the SEC, and TCU joining the Big 12, Texas will become a very difficult place for them or anyone else outside those 2 conferences to recruit consistently.
Pelini can't recruit. Nebraska has the following, tradition, and winning culture that should allow it to churn out top-10 classes every year.
about 15 different schools, every one of them lacking Nebraska's geographic disadvantage.
That's pretty much it exactly. Most of the top schools, to one degree or another, have both tradition and a rich recruiting base, some more than others in either of those categories, and nearly all of the top top schools have both. Nebraska is one of the only schools that thinks it should be in that top group that has almost no recruiting base to work with (though Oregon is kind of in that same boat).
Oregon doesn't have much of an in-state recruiting base, but it does border on California.
It does border CA, but the closest football talent is the Bay Area which is over 500 miles away, and LA is almost 900 miles away. So although their states border, it's really about the same distance as Nebraska is to Texas (Lincoln to Dallas is about 600 miles).
Yeah, there's not much between Eugene and Sacramento on I-5. Still, it seems like most of the players on any Pac-12 team are going to be from California.
Here is Oregon's 2012 roster. There are a lot of California players but it does appear that they pull from all over.--though I am not familiar enough with Oregon's players to know which of these guys are walk-ons with no realistic hope of playing.
|1||Josh Huff||WR||5-11||200||JR||HOUSTON, TX|
|2||Bryan Bennett||QB||6-3||199||SO||ENCINO, CA|
|3||Dior Mathis||CB||5-9||177||SO||DETROIT, MI|
|3||Jake Rodrigues||QB||6-3||205||FR||ROCKLIN, CA|
|4||Erick Dargan||DB||5-11||208||SO||PITTSBURG, CA|
|5||Issac Dixon||DB||5-11||196||FR||MIAMI GARDENS, FL|
|6||De'Anthony Thomas||RB||5-9||173||SO||LOS ANGELES, CA|
|7||Keanon Lowe||WR||5-9||179||SO||PORTLAND, OR|
|8||Reggie Daniels||DB||6-1||185||FR||CHANDLER, AZ|
|8||Marcus Mariota||QB||6-4||196||FR||HONOLULU, HI|
|9||Arik Armstead||DL||6-8||297||FR||SACRAMENTO, CA|
|9||Byron Marshall||RB||5-10||195||FR||SAN JOSE, CA|
|10||Rahsaan Vaughn||WR||6-2||193||SR||OAKLAND, CA|
|11||Bralon Addison||WR||5-10||185||FR||MISSOURI CITY, TX|
|12||Devon Blackmon||WR||6-1||194||FR||FONTANA, CA|
|12||Brian Jackson||DB||5-10||202||JR||HOOVER, AL|
|13||Troy Hill||DB||5-11||167||SO||VENTURA, CA|
|14||Ifo Ekpre-Olomu||CB||5-10||190||SO||CHINO HILLS, CA|
|14||Dustin Haines||QB||6-3||208||JR||EUGENE, OR|
|15||Colt Lyerla||TE||6-5||238||SO||HILLSBORO, OR|
|16||Daryle Hawkins||WR||6-4||198||JR||OMAHA, NE|
|17||Jeff Lockie||QB||6-2||180||FR||DANVILLE, CA|
|17||James Scales III||DB||5-10||184||SO||GREENSBORO, NC|
|18||Dwayne Stanford||WR||6-5||210||FR||CINCINNATI, OH|
|19||Eric Dungy||WR||6-1||181||SO||TAMPA, FL|
|21||Chance Allen||WR||6-2||191||FR||MISSOURI CITY, TX|
|21||Avery Patterson||CB||5-10||185||JR||PITTSBURG, CA|
|22||Derrick Malone||LB||6-2||205||SO||COLTON, CA|
|23||B.J. Kelley||WR||6-2||179||FR||FRESNO, CA|
|25||Boseko Lokombo||LB||6-3||225||JR||ABBOTSFORD, BC|
|26||Ben Butterfield||WR||6-0||193||JR||SHERWOOD, OR|
|27||Terrance Mitchell||DB||6-0||185||SO||SACRAMENTO, CA|
|28||Eric Amoako||DB||5-11||190||FR||ARLINGTON, TX|
|29||Stephen Amoako||DB||5-11||190||FR||ARLINGTON, TX|
|30||Dylan Ausherman||K||6-3||180||JR||VISALIA, CA|
|30||Ayele Forde||RB||5-7||177||SO||VICTORVILLE, CA|
|30||Bronson Yim||DB||5-10||181||FR||HONOLULU, HI|
|31||Kenny Bassett||RB||5-9||176||SO||BEVERLY HILLS, CA|
|31||Oshay Dunmore||DB||6-2||195||FR||NEWPORT, OR|
|32||Evan Baylis||TE||6-6||232||FR||CENTENNIAL, CO|
|32||J.R. Maffie||DB||5-11||193||JR||DIAMOND BAR, CA|
|33||Tyson Coleman||LB||6-1||217||FR||LAKE OSWEGO, OR|
|34||Rahim Cassell||LB||6-0||215||FR||LAKEWOOD, CA|
|35||Anthony Wallace||LB||6-0||231||SO||DALLAS, TX|
|36||Carlyle Garrick||LB||6-2||221||FR||CASTRO VALLEY, CA|
|36||Jennings Stewart||TE||6-3||225||SR||GRANTS PASS, OR|
|37||Michael Manns||WR||5-11||165||FR||MOLALLA, OR|
|38||Mike Garrity||LB||6-1||222||SO||SAN CARLOS, CA|
|39||Drew Howell||LS||6-2||218||JR||TEHACHAPI, CA|
|39||Jimmy Musgrave||TE||6-0||220||FR||VICTORVILLE, CA|
|40||Brett Bafaro||LB||6-2||225||FR||HILLSBORO, OR|
|41||Alejandro Maldonado||K||5-10||190||JR||COLTON, CA|
|41||Blake Stanton||WR||5-11||210||SO||LOS ANGELES, CA|
|42||Cody Carriger||DL||6-6||230||FR||BUTTE, MT|
|43||Keloni Kamalani||LB||5-11||208||JR||KIHEI, HI|
|44||DeForest Buckner||DL||6-7||230||FR||HONOLULU, HI|
|45||Terrence Daniel||TE||6-6||230||FR||OAKLAND, CA|
|48||Rodney Hardrick||LB||6-1||237||SO||COLTON, CA|
|48||Eric Solis||K||5-10||192||SO||SHERMAN OAKS, CA|
|49||Jackson Rice||P||6-3||223||SR||MORAGA, CA|
|50||Ryan Hagen||DT||6-3||292||JR||BREA, CA|
|51||Isaac Ava||LB||5-10||243||SO||EWA BEACH, HI|
|54||Hamani Stevens||OL||6-3||305||SO||HEMET, CA|
|55||Hroniss Grasu||OL||6-3||284||SO||ENCINO, CA|
|56||Alex Balducci||DL||6-4||275||FR||PORTLAND, OR|
|57||Trevor Fox||OL||6-5||280||JR||TEMECULA, CA|
|57||Ryan McCandless||DE||6-2||213||FR||SANTA ROSA, CA|
|58||James Euscher||OL||6-7||291||FR||ALOHA, OR|
|59||Jeff Palmer||LS||5-10||187||SR||DANA POINT, CA|
|59||Grant Thompson||LB||5-11||220||SO||COTTAGE GROVE, OR|
|60||Ryan Clanton||OL||6-5||296||SR||BAKERSFIELD, CA|
|61||Nick Cody||OL||6-5||309||SR||BRUSH PRAIRIE, WA|
|62||Matt Pierson||OL||6-6||251||FR||WEST LINN, OR|
|63||Mana Greig||OL||5-11||297||JR||KAILUA, HI|
|64||Tyler Johnstone||OL||6-6||271||FR||CHANDLER, AZ|
|66||Taylor Hart||DT||6-6||289||JR||TUALATIN, OR|
|68||Jamal Prater||OL||6-4||278||FR||ETIWANDA, CA|
|71||Everett Benyard||OL||6-7||319||JR||SAN DIEGO, CA|
|72||Andre Yruretagoyena||OL||6-5||264||FR||SCOTTSDALE, AZ|
|75||Jake Fisher||OL||6-6||279||SO||TRAVERSE CITY, MI|
|77||Carson York||G||6-5||293||SR||COEUR D ALENE, ID|
|78||Karrington Armstrong||OL||6-3||286||JR||RENO, NV|
|80||Koa Ka'ai||TE||6-4||249||FR||HONOLULU, HI|
|82||Christian French||DE||6-5||231||FR||CEDAR RAPIDS, IA|
|84||Stetzon Bair||DL||6-9||265||SO||SAINT ANTHONY, ID|
|84||Chad Delaney||WR||6-0||181||JR||ELMIRA, OR|
|85||Pharaoh Brown||TE||6-6||230||FR||LYNDHURST, OH|
|86||Brian Teague||TE||6-3||267||JR||PORTLAND, OR|
|87||Nick Morrison||DL||6-4||258||JR||EVERETT, WA|
|88||Jeff Bedbury||WR||6-0||195||SO||EUGENE, OR|
|89||Will Murphy||WR||6-2||186||SR||ALBANY, OR|
|90||Ricky Heimuli||DT||6-4||321||JR||GLENDALE, UT|
|91||Dane Ebanez||WR||5-9||178||JR||NORTH POLE, AK|
|91||Tony Washington||DE||6-3||252||SO||RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CA|
|92||Wade Keliikipi||DT||6-3||300||JR||WAIANAE, HI|
|93||Rob Beard||K||6-0||218||SR||FULLERTON, CA|
|94||Axel McQuaw||OL||6-6||275||JR||YACHATS, OR|
|97||Hayden Crook||K||5-10||155||FR||BEND, OR|
|97||Jared Ebert||DT||6-5||267||JR||IOWA CITY, IA|
|98||David Kafovalu||DE||6-3||250||SO||RIVERSIDE, CA|
|99||Sam Kamp||DL||6-4||236||FR||MESA, AZ|
I have a theory that Oregon and Boise have risen as Washington collapsed in the wake of the Don James scandal. I'm pretty sure they used to compete with USC/UCLA as the dominant school in the Pac 10 by getting the highly ranked kids from SoCal that USC/UCLA didn't have room for and filling in from the PacNW.
It does seem pretty clear that the rise of Oregon and the decline of Washington are pretty closely linked. Boise may be a different story.
I agree there is something to that. It may not go all the way back to the Don James scandals, but UW has definitely not been the same since Neuheisel was forced out.
They very well should be in that top group. Nebraska's geographic isolation is nothing new, yet they were borderline invincible in the mid-90's. Between '93 and '97, Tom Osborne went 60-3 or something and came within a missed field goal of three consecutive perfect seasons. Though it might be unrealistic for them to expect to duplicate that level of dominance now, there's no reason why they shouldn't be competing for national championships. Given the resources and tradition of that program, it's hard not to think that Pelini has underachieved, geography notwithstanding.
I don't hate Nebraska and I don't wish them harm, but I honestly honestly think that steroids had a lot to do with their previous trench-driven success.
What I've noticed is their highest rated guys they bring in, usually transfer (Cody & Aaron Green, Braylon Heard, Tyler Moore Ect..).
Kansas is? It's just outside Kansas City. It's easier to get to than Lexington or probably Chapel Hill and Durham.
Lawerence is a suburb of a major city, so it's really no farther from an airport than like every college town in America. Ann Arbor and Bloomington are in that same boat, yet people still go there. Hell, when you account for traffic, UCLA and USC are farther from the airport than KU is.
I haven't much of a problem getting to Chapel Hill or anywhere in Durham.
Regarding Nebraska recruiting, I think a lot of people are only looking at one side of the equation. Nebraska was plenty stocked with talent well before the Big 8 absorbed the Texas schools, and that talent came almost exclusively from Nebraska, with some from the surrounding states.
Nebraska has no in-state competition, and little if any competition for Nebraska talent from out-of-state schools. Also, it has been mentioned that it is difficult for recruits to get to Lincoln. Well, that also goes for coaches and recruiters for schools outside of Nebraska, and probably just makes it tough to identify and ultimately recruit talent out of the state.
All the big programs recruit Texas, Ohio, Florida, Illinois, etc. There is a lot of competition to go along with the great deal of talent.
Nebraska, as when Penn State joined the Big Ten, will have a winning percentage lower than their historical average. But it will not be due to newfound shortcomings in recruiting.
Nebraska football and Kansas basketball both recruit nationally. They have the winning tradition to be able to pull it off. There are plenty of kids out there willing to move far away.
Geography can help recruiting, but it's not the only factor. Ann Arbor didn't move closer to Ohio when Hoke got here, but we've been recruiting Ohio much better under him than we did under RichRod or even Carr for that matter. Having ties to the state is big. Pellini is also from Ohio, incidentally.
I see where they are coming from but I really think more recruits would make it a point to visit unofficially if they were still a perrenial top-10 team.
Possibly, but it's one of those chicken and egg scenarios.
Lots of schools have a hard time getting top players to visit unofficially. Michigan often has, even when we're good. Yeah, the guys who really like us make the trip, but there are lots of guys who kinda like us who wait until they can do an official, and by then it's often too late.
We're lucky to be close to a lot of talent who can drive to see us pretty easily.
We do have more of a recruiting base, no doubt, but take a look at Boise State's 2002 recruiting class vs. their 2012 class. Boise wasn't really on many people's radars in 2002 but got more exposure and moved from exclusively 2 star guys to more 3 star ones.
Plus, it looks like Nebraska had 5 commits before the 2012 season started and 10 before the 2011 season started.
Yeah, there's no doubt being really good helps, but Boise St is a rare case because they went from being a complete nobody to playing in BCS games and being in the top 10-ish almost every year. That's a huge jump, so I'm not surprised their recruiting followed suit.
Nebraska is already a known commodity, and I wouldn't expect on-field performance to impact their recruiting much unless they got back to being 90's Nebraska.
As for your second paragraph, I'm sure they'll be in that neighborhood again before the season starts this year.
I kind of feel like Nebraska will never really recover from firing Frank Solich. Nebraska does have a lot of the problems identified above--not near a major urban area, little football talent in-state or even in surrounding states, difficult or impossible for recruits to reach for unofficial visits, etc. But during their long run of sustained success under Devany-Osborne-Solich, they had two things working for them: (1) established winning tradition, and (2) they ran an option offense that, at least by the 1990s, did not require massive amounts of 4- and 5-star talent to run. Nebraska kind of gave up those advantages when they fired Solich.
The other big advantage Nebraska had was a huge, huge walk-on program. They regularly carried something like 170 guys on the team. Because in-state tuition there is cheap, decent players would regularly walk on there instead of getting scholarships elsewhere. These guys were able to fill gaps in the depth chart and occasionally even turn into stars.
Callahan, for some reason, discontinued this, although I believe Pellini is starting it back up.
We currently have commitments from New Jersey, Utah, Florida, and Virginia. It's convenient to have DTW so close, but it's not like it's impossible to reach Lincoln. Isn't it possible that Nebraska just isn't the hotspot of college football like it used to be?
But this year is an anomoly. Last year at this time we had 17 recruits, and only one of them was from outside of Big Ten country, and that was Chris Fox from CO. After him, our farthest commit was Kugler from Pittsburgh, or LTT from Peoria, IL, I'm not sure which is farther.
EDIT: And the year before we didn't have a commit from outside of MI and OH until June.
As a hub city, DTW helps a ton. I live on the east coast, and I am always amazed at how easy it really is to get to A2. Much easier than most places are that require an airplane trip. Also, the fares are pretty good . . . the hub thing again.
it was a major mistake for Nebraska to leave the Big 12 conference - that gave them a natural tie-in to Texas which is a big recruiting center for them. There is no real tie-in for them currently.
For all the other major conferences, they all have a 'football' state where most of the talent comes from
Big 12: Texas
Big 10: Ohio/PA
Nebraska is pretty far off from Ohio and PA and they don't really have established recruiting territory there so it makes sense that they're struggling. And Texas really trails off because Lincoln is the closest Big 10 school to Texas and it's still about a 9 hr drive to Lincoln so as a Texas recruit, the closest you'll play to home is Lincoln which is still 9 hrs out. They're kind of in no-mans land now
The article is pretty accurate.
Nebraska has historically closed late in the recruiting cycle, not just during Pellini. And contrary to many comments on this thread, the Huskers have seldom had Top 10 recruiting classes.
We have little in-state or nearby (drivable distance) talent to recruit, and its expensive for recruits to fly into Lincoln on their own dime. This has been the case ever since the Devaney era. So Nebraska's always had to recruit nationally even with factors that make it difficult.
And yet we've managed to do fairly well the last 50 years. Even in our worst decade, compare us to Michigan or Ohio St. And our first 2 years in the B!G---with by far the hardest schedule in the conference--we've competed until the last week for the division and won it the 2nd year.
We'll be fine.
Yeah, you'll be fine. With the new divisions, you're sitting at the kids table now anyway.
yes you have OSU but that's what your guys wanted. The rest of the East is no big deal. PSU will be severely weakened for a long time due to sanctions and MGoBlogers seem to think Michigan St is a flash in the pan. I think the West has more good teams.
Time will tell, in the meantime we're both still in the Legends and it should be a great competition to win the division this year. And you owe me a sixpack from last season.
Our division has the top two teams, 4 of the top 5 over the last 5 years and the 3 top teams historically (at least 3 of the top 4). You have to get past Wisconsin. We'll see how often the west wins the title game.
I do owe you a sixpack, though the Denard injury obviously fucked up my prediction. Don't expect that to be the norm going forward.
The article linked within what the OP posted is here - (LINK). Although this is from 2010, I think we've seen the effects of the phenomenon described in it with our own recruiting, and that is the increasining importance of the unofficial visit.
By NCAA rule, of course, those are visits made on the dime of the recruit. That being said, it seems like schools which are in destinations that are, by virtue of location, less convenient or more expensive to visit if air travel is required (as an example) have seen some shifts in their recruiting patterns. I also wonder if that trend gives schools with rich recruiting territory within reasonable distance an even greater advantage.
With regards to Nebraska, it seems to me (and ChicagoB1GRed mentions it) that they've done well enough despite the issue of location. I believe that some of the bigger names and the schools more steeped in tradition will still be able to ultimately attract some of the top talent simply because of who they are and what they offer in the way of football experience.
I think everyone is forgetting about the powerhouse Millard North High School. How many Heisman trophy winners has your high school produced? That's right. I went there.
Bo Pellini was obviously reading this thread because Nebraska picked up another recruit today...from Texas, no less. He has none of the stars, and sports other offers from North Texas and that's all. Could be a sleeper.
our second recruit......we're building a powerhouse!
Don't know what to tell you. Michigan has fantastic recruiting in-state, in-region, and certainly more than holds their own nationally. And your record, whether all-time or more modern times, speaks for itself.
Nebraska has always been more top 25ish as far as recruiting and yet been one of the elite programs when it comes to winning and championships, especially in the modern era.
Both programs are clean, at least as clean as a big time winning program can be. Winning a lot and winning clean....something to be proud of.
As a current student at the University of Nebraska who came from out of state, the school is a total bitch to get to. And although it may slow down recruiting, I'm not too worried about the future of the program. The state of Nebraska is one of the few states where one can walk into a bar on a Sunday in the Fall, and a TV won't be turned to FOX or CBS, but rather the Big Ten Network's replay of Husker game from the day before. The Cornhuskers are the professional team for the Omaha/Lincoln area, and the state is unique in the fact that it finds its identity through two things: Corn and Football.
One (unrelated) story I'll never forget is one day I was at the doctor's office after an intramural injury, and an elderly lady was sitting in the waiting room next to me. She turns to me and asks if I went to the USC-Nebraska basketball game the night before, to which I replied I didn't. She told me it was a bummer because the crowd theme was a luau in honor of Tai Webster, a point guard from New Zealand who had committed in August. To hear a lady who looked like Betty White talk about Nebrasketball recruiting like that still astounds me to this day.
FWIW, I did a diary on Nebraska recruiting last May 20, and at that point Nebraska had 7 recruits: 1 from TX, 1 from NE, 3 from Ohio, and 1 from Wisc. Pellini seems to have acknowledged that he needs to do a better job of refocusing on TX recruiting, but the change to the B1G (as others have noted) has had an effect on his recruiting.
I do have a question though. I believe the way things are set up now, universites can't pay for the athletes' trips until their senior year. Does that mean they can't get trips paid for until classes start the fall of their senior year? That seems insanely late. Especially with the way recruiting happens now, I would think allowing students paid travel the spring semester of their junior year and through the summer would make more sense.