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OT: OSU football job/internship
...would this have anything to do with acquisition of Hyundai automobiles?
Football is about fun and watching the games. It is not about affecting how you live your life. Plus you could leak out information (J/K). Why would you not take on the job? I understand you bleed maize and blue, but the potential job you are giving up sounds like a hell of an chance. If you show your skillz there. It could translate into you having the ability to someday maybe work for UofM in the same position. Maybe I am wrong but seems like a golden chance to get involved in the football world.
I think you should reconsider
Agreed. And as much as you hate it this kind of experience at a top flight BCS program will stand out on a resume. I second the reconsider opinion.
I see where you are coming from, but keep in mind it's not exactly like I was offered a job already. I would still have to work to get a position. This probably doesn't change your position, but just wanted to clarify.
i'll gladly apply. would make getting a job working for UM in 5 years easier.
true. Maybe I will reconsider. Or at least just see what my options are.
Agree 100% with this. It's all about who you know, and the fact your Aunt knows Mrs. Tressel is a connection the OP shouldn't neglect just because of rivalry.
I mean, imagine you end up getting the job, and can later list Tressel as a reference.
Don't pass up on a gift just because it's wrapped in the wrong colors. Capische?
I know many of you would applaud his actions, but especially in today's economy how could you not send it? Just think of it today if the long-time Ohio Sate grad assistant Bo Schembechler hadn't sent his resume to the Michigan football program.
Smooth move, ex lax!
Dude, it's a hell of an opportunity. OSU is a huge program, it could get your foot in the door throughout the B10 or NCAA business realm.
Then again, competence and sound decision-making would be required to get the most out of what that situation would have to offer..... maybe it doesn't matter after all.
ONCE A DUDE OFFERED ME A MILLION DOLLARS BUT HE HAD AN OHIO STATE HAT ON SO I TOLD HIM TO GO FUCK HIMSELF LOLOLOL
Seriously, don't be an idiot. Send the resume and stop being a retard... there's no award for being the biggest superfan who fucks himself over just because of fucking football
The Boston College logo on the block M is kind of wrong.
Why is that? (didn't neg you)
I can't stand seeing Boston teams in the Frozen Four every year. I guess being a fan of Michigan and the CCHA it gets old seeing them and Boston U go to the finals. I'm still really bitter about the Miami loss in the semifinals this year but there was no question about it that BC kicked the shit out of Wisconsin bad.
This adequately communicates how dismissively I'm wanking
Do it. OSU has one of the largest athletic departments in the nation. You'll be well connected and have great experience if you don't stay there. If you do stay there, you'll still have a great time working with athletics. Team preference should have zero impact on any sane person.
Good luck with getting the job.
i would do it if and only if... i dunno. i could never do it. i could see walmart wolverines doin it, but not grads.
I'm a student at U of M now, and if I got offered that opportunity once I'm out of school I'd take it. Sure, it's OSU, but you have to look at your future, not just your prejudices. It's a great career starter if you want to go into that sort of thing.
it's about the pursuit of happiness right? i couldn't see myself happy there, and i feel that a lot of graduates feel the same way.
Maybe it's just me, but I feel that a lot of graduates would want to jumpstart their careers almost any way possible. Like I said before, just because it's your biggest rival doesn't mean that you should blow off a chance for a very good job. Put the rivalry behind you in the business world and it will do you a world of good.
why would you want to jumpstart your business career in a dirty athletic program with TRBL business ethics?
What's dirty? The fact that they commit violations that have nothing to do with the business sector of the program? And please explain to me how it has bad business ethics. Is it just because it is OSU and it can be inferred that it is bad, or has there actually been something substantial that suggests that it is bad?
the business sector of the program is where the dirty stuff can happen. although everyone here unfairly accused brad labadie of being incompetent, someone in his position has the ability to purposefully mess around with documents like that. that's why i would say it's a bad idea. and how they haven't gotten caught yet, or even investigated, is a bigger mystery than the mindset of michigan fans who call into valenti's radio show.
get the goods!
I like how it's an outrage when the Freep makes baseless accusations against Michigan, but it's perfectly OK to make stuff up about OSU.
We should autoban anyone who says "walmart wolverine".
For starters because it implies that people who didn't go to Michigan aren't real fans or good fans. It also implies that people who don't go to Michigan are somehow inherently low class. Also, it was made by MSU fans who sought to dismiss the notion that Michigan was simply more popular in the state than they were.
Really, the idea that people who didn't go to a school aren't real fans is just fantastically misguided and pathetic.
maybe it's just that i've met a lot of michigan fans who didn't go to school that have no idea what they are talking about. por ejemplo, 2007 ohio state game. some admitted walmart wolverine kept wondering "why don't we just throw the ball up to mario every time?" saying it half-joking once is one thing. getting legitimately mad at lloyd carr and yelling that a dozen times is another. thats just one example.
the point is, i said i couldn't do it because i wouldn't be happy, and it is my perception that a lot of graduates would say the same thing. nothing is wrong with that statement.
A lot of Michigan grads say hilariously stupid things... you must be new to this board
don't get me wrong, michigan grads can say stupid things too.
One of the reasons Michigan is what it is today is because for a long time we've been Detroit's football team in a sense. The Lions have long been meh and a lot of people in Michigan have adopted us as the flagship football program. They may have never come here, they may never send their kids here, but they follow the program and they root for us.
Look at the Lions, they go 0-16 and the state rolls its eyes and basically goes "Well that's the Lions alright." We miss two bowls in a row and people are foaming at the mouth. Part of Michigan's program is that we can get 106000 to 110,000 people into our stadium pretty much ever game and millions more click on their TVs to watch. I was in China and I was able to turn on the TV at 3 am local time and catch a live game because that Block M is known worldwide. (Explaining to room service why you need beer and noodles at 2:45 AM is also fun.)
Yes sometimes some elements of our fanbase make me cringe, but we wouldn't be what we are without the massive fanbase behind the program. You have to take the good with the bad.
We should autoban anyone who says "walmart wolverine".
As for me, I'm wearing the label as a badge of honor. Been a fan a lot longer than many grads.
Did you really just throw that out there? What're you gonna do next, call UM *scUM*?
also, this is totally made up.
just in case anyone wasn't sure
If you send it in, like you said, it's not agreeing to take the job if offered. It never hurts to see what's available. The other posters may be right, you might have the opportunity to end up working at Michigan by taking the OSU job now, and I'm sure you'd really be able to help Michigan out someday. It would certainly not be a decision I would want to have to make (taking the job), good luck!
I would take it, As much as I hate them letting your hatred towards your rival ruin what could be a good decision future wise is stupid. That's a great connection if you ask me.
OSU football program is the only job in Columbus I would take.
you wanna work for their football program? get a job selling corvettes.
Oh come on people, despite previous comments you didn't like, that was funny right there.
Meh, Columbus is a nice town. I've thought about moving there more than once... it's probably one of the cooler cities in the midwest (that don't cost an assload of money, Chicago)
Wow, dude. All you'd have to do is work there for a while and scan opportunities at [anywhere else] where your experience in a similar capacity at an elite football program would almost certainly make you a leading candidate.
FWIW, I had something similar happen to me (except for the OSU thing). I was at a random dinner at my best friend's house -> they had other guests -> "send me your resume" -> internship -> job -> thriving career. That was 10 years ago.
Don't be an idiot. In fact, negged for being an idiot.
Fair enough. With respect to the idiot thing, I can still send my resume in and see what happens. "No" was just my immediate reaction, and I am starting to reconsider.
I still regret not getting that recent job at UM in Athletic Media Relations, but I'm not giving up on it. I've e-mailed Bruce Madej numerous times about at least volunteering in some capacity to learn the ropes. Hell, I'm even going to be an usher this season for the experience (obviously, not the money). If it leads to a future job in the AD someday, then it will have paid off.
Seriously, man, take the job. It's not everyday you get offered a job in this economy. Trust me, after the hundreds of resumes I've already submitted...
It's brutal. That's a golden opportunity at your doorstep.
Is it your "dream job"? No. Certainly not, (I'm naturally presuming). On the other hand, the OSU Athletic Department is one of the best in the country. They have one of the largest budgets in the country, (bigger than U-M's). By all accounts, it is very well-managed, and you could learn a thing or two.
Do you really think NotABLUEFan doesn't have an internship/job in the Michigan Althletic Department or U of M admissions office?
and Don't do drugs.
The OP brings up a good point. I can't think of any legendary figure in Michigan football history that once was affiliated with Ohio State football. There's no way that a revered football coach who rebuilt the Michigan football program could ever have been employed by Ohio State.
If such a guy even had the famed Gold Pants, given by Buckeye head coaches for beating Michigan? I mean, wouldn't that be just scandalous?
Can you imagine how absurd it would be for Michigan to hire a coach with a masters degree from Ohio State? How about hiring one who not only played for the Buckeyes but captained them to a national championship?
Just ludicrous notions.
I've just read through all of the comments on this thread and your responses to them, (my "I agree" comment was before I'd read everything you'd written). On second thought, don't apply. Your aunt obviously knows someone - probably a dyed in the wool Buckeye, if I had to guess - who has no problem hiring a Wolverine into their hallowed halls. They don't have the problem here, you do.
If you can't be a "good citizen" and a represent the U-M in a respectful way, even in Columbus, I'd just as soon you looked elsewhere.
Assuming you are serious about seeking career advice here, which I really doubt, it would be foolish to pass up an opportunity like that. FYI, this country currently has a pretty bleak employment landscape at all levels.
Let me just jump on the dogpile and say you would be foolish, IMO, to not change your mind. Send the resume.
If you get an interview, that in itself would be a worthwhile experience--and it would give you a rich pool of material to trot out here on MGoBlog, for mockery purposes at a bare minimum. You would have seen more than most football fans (U-M or OSU) ever see.
And if you did end up with the job, awesome. Maybe you don't root for OSU, but it's a paycheck. And much more than that, it's a position in a huge, well-respected D1 athletic program. Who knows how many doors that could open in the future.
I've got someone going into their 6th month of unemployment in my household, which makes me particularly prone to say you should follow this lead. By my advice would be the same in a good economy. Hell, my advice would be the same the morning after a loss to OSU.
You'd be foolish not the send the resume if work like that is what you really want to do. It shoulds like it would be great experience. Just be prepared to have to hide the fact that you're a Michigan fan, or at least don't be publicly open about it on the job. I have a friend who works for the Ottawa Senators (who isn't a Senators fan) and they regularly can people that outwardly show that they are a fan of another team.
You should definitely do it. It'd be pissing away a great opportunity. Not everyone gets a chance to do something like that for a BCS powerhouse. Give me your aunt's email address if you don't want to do it. ;)
as someone who works in the sports industry, i can tell you that jobs like those do not come along that often or that easy, that if you are interested in pursuing a career in sports, my best advice would be to take that job... like two weeks ago. high profile jobs in sports (working for a team like Ohio State) are some of the most sought after in the industry and they pretty much only come about based on who you know (in this case Mrs. Tressel), that it would be absolutely foolish to turn it down. Most people who want to break into the sports industry would kill for a job like that. furthermore, the sports world is so small that working at a place like OSU will not only look great for jobs down the line but it would just be worth it for the amount of key people you would meet. so if you can swallow your pride for a few years, so many doors will be open for you when you are ready to move on.
personally i wouldn't do it, but if that's what you want, all power to you.
And, a couple of years later, OSU would be in deep shit. I would never tell them I was a Michigan fan, and I would find out who was paying whom and how they were doing it. I would also find out a lot about the "tutoring" program. I would compile all of the info until I had both another sports job and enough info to bring them down. Then, I would call the NCAA and ask them if they would like to talk about OSU for a couple of days.
Whenever the NCAA investigates OSU, they run into a "scarlet wall." The only way they will ever get caught is if an insider decides to talk. What a great opportunity a job like that would be.
How would you feel working there? Would you regret not taking this shot if another doesn't come along? Would you be able to put forth your best effort and feel good about it?
Answer those questions for yourself (or with your spouse if you've got one) and forget everyone else. Do what you can to put yourself in places where you like what you do and avoid having regrets down the road.
and put Tate, Denard, and RR as your references. Seriously though, apply and bring them down from the inside.