Home
we had subs it was crazy

Primary links

  • About
    • $upport (lol)
    • Ethics
    • FAQ
    • Privacy Policy
  • Contact
  • MGoStore
  • MGoBoard
    • MGoBoard FAQ
    • Ticket spreadsheet
    • Michigan bar locator
    • Moderator Action Sticky
  • Useful Stuff
    • Depth Chart By Class
    • Unofficial Two Deep
    • 2013 Offer Board
    • Crude Bug Tracking System
    • Third Down Stats
    • Diaries, Windows Live Writer, And You
    • Michigan Future Schedules
    • User-Curated HOF
    • 2013 Recruiting Board
    • Where To Eat In Ann Arbor
Home Forums MGoBoard

Navigation

  • Forums
  • Recent posts

User login

  • Create new account
  • Request new password

MGoElsewhere

  • @MGoBlog (Brian)
  • @aceanbender
  • @TomVH (Tom)
  • RSS Feed
  • iPhone App
  • Facebook profile
  • MGoKindle Store
  • mgo.licio.us
  • Brian @ TSB [Archive]
  • Brian @ AOL [Archive]
  • Sour Salty Bitter Sweet

Michigan Blogs

  • Big House Blog
  • Burgeoning Wolverine Star
  • Genuinely Sarcastic
  • Go Blue Michigan Wolverine
  • Holdin' The Rope
  • MGoFootball
  • MVictors
  • Maize 'n' Blue Nation
  • Maize 'n' Brew
  • Maize And Go Blue
  • Michigan Hockey Net
  • The Blog That Yost Built
  • The Hoover Street Rag
  • The M Block
  • The M Zone
  • The Wolverine Blog
  • Touch The Banner
  • UMGoBlog
  • UMHoops
  • UMTailgate
  • Wolverine Liberation Army

M On The Net

  • mgovideo
  • MGoBlue.com
  • Mike DeSimone
  • Recruiting Planet
  • The Wolverine
  • Go Blue Wolverine
  • Winged Helmet
  • UMGoBlue.com
  • MaizeRage.org
  • Puckhead
  • The M Den
  • True Blue Fan Forum

Big Ten Blogs

  • Illinois
    • A Lion Eye
    • Hail To The Orange
    • Illinois Baseball Report
    • Illinois Loyalty
  • Indiana
    • Inside The Hall
    • The Crimson Quarry
  • Iowa
    • Black Heart, Gold Pants
    • Fight For Iowa
  • Michigan State
    • The Only Colors
  • Minnesota
    • GopherHole.com
    • The Daily Gopher
    • I'm In Love With A Fringe Bowl Team
    • TNABACG
  • Nebraska
    • Big Red Network
    • Corn Nation
    • Husker Mike's Blasphemy
    • Husker Gameday
  • Northwestern
    • Sippin' On Purple
    • Lake The Posts
  • Notre Dame
    • The House Rock Built
    • One Foot Down
  • Ohio State
    • Eleven Warriors
    • Buckeye Commentary
    • Men of the Scarlet and Gray
    • Our Honor Defend
    • The Buckeye Nine
  • Penn State
    • Slow States
    • Black Shoe Diaries
    • Happy Valley Hardball
    • Penn State Clips
    • Linebacker U
    • Nittany White Out
  • Purdue
    • Boiled Sports
    • Hammer and Rails
  • Wisconsin
    • Bruce Ciskie

Links of Note

  • Baseball
    • Big Ten Hardball
    • College Baseball Today
    • The Baseball Zealot
    • The College Baseball Blog
  • Basketball
    • Ken Pomeroy
    • Basketball Prospectus
    • Midmajority
  • College Hockey
    • Chris Heisenberg
    • College Hockey Stats
    • Inside College Hockey
    • Michigan College Hockey
    • Hockey's Future
    • Sioux Sports
    • USCHO
    • Western College Hockey
    • CCHA
      • LSSU Hockey
      • Bronco Hockey Blog
  • Football
    • Smart Football
    • Every Day Should Be Saturday
    • Doctor Saturday
    • CFB Stats
    • Harold Stassen
    • NCAA D-I Stats Page
    • The Wizard Of Odds
  • General
    • Sports Central
  • Local Interest
    • The Ann Arbor Chronicle
    • Arborwiki
    • Arbor Update
    • Teeter Talk
    • Vacuum
  • Teams Of The D
    • Lions
      • Pride of Detroit
      • Fire Millen
    • Pistons
      • Detroit Bad Boys
      • Need4Sheed
    • Tigers
      • Roar Of The Tigers
      • The Detroit Tigers Weblog
      • The Daily Fungo
    • Red Wings
      • On The Wings
      • Behind The Jersey
      • Winging It In Motown
    • Michigan Sports Forum

Archive

  • May 2013 (42)
  • April 2013 (94)
  • March 2013 (104)
  • February 2013 (81)
  • January 2013 (93)
  • December 2012 (74)
  • November 2012 (142)
  • October 2012 (143)
  • September 2012 (107)
  • August 2012 (103)
  •  
  • 1 of 11
  • ››

Get Yer Tickets

Football Display Case

NFL Watches

Follow your favorite team with localtv-satellite.com: Click Here.

Site Search

Diaries

  • New
  • Popular
  • Hot
  • More Milford Men Than Michigan Men: Comparing the 11-12 and 12-13 Hockey Teams
    MGoBlueline - 16 hours ago
  • Future Non-Conference Opponent Recruiting Watch
    EGD - 2 days ago
  • Way Too Late B1G Men's Basketball Scheduling Idea
    BeileinBuddy - 3 days ago
  • The Blockhams in "HOCKEY HANGOVER"
    Six Zero - 1 week ago
  • MGoAcceptance: Another MGoAnecdote
    LSAClassOf2000 - 1 week ago
  •  
  • 1 of 4
  • ››
more
  • Big Ten Recruiting Rankings 5-15-13
    Ace - 1,377 views
  • Future Non-Conference Opponent Recruiting Watch
    EGD - 543 views
  • Way Too Late B1G Men's Basketball Scheduling Idea
    BeileinBuddy - 379 views
  • More Milford Men Than Michigan Men: Comparing the 11-12 and 12-13 Hockey Teams
    MGoBlueline - 139 views
  • Big Ten Recruiting Rankings 5-15-13
    Ace - 51 comments
  • MGoAcceptance: Another MGoAnecdote
    LSAClassOf2000 - 19 comments
  • Future Non-Conference Opponent Recruiting Watch
    EGD - 15 comments
  • The Blockhams in "HOCKEY HANGOVER"
    Six Zero - 13 comments
  • Way Too Late B1G Men's Basketball Scheduling Idea
    BeileinBuddy - 2 comments
  •  
  • 1 of 2
  • ››
more

MGoBoard

  • New
  • Recent
  • Hot
  • Steve Everitt rips Notre Dame!
    22 replies
  • OT: IIHF Semifinal US vs Switzerland Open Thread
    2 replies
  • OT- happy World Whisk(e)y day everyone!
    20 replies
  • Michigan Baseball vs Nebraska on BTN Open Thread
    33 replies
  • Michigan Women's Tennis Swept by UCLA
    1 replies
  • OT: Preakness Stakes
    20 replies
  • M Softball hosting Cal in Regional - 5/18
    20 replies
  • OT: Red Wings @ Hawks Game 2 Open Thread
    110 replies
  • Marvin Robinson to FSU
    48 replies
  • OT: Ron English & Mike Hart to jump out of a plane for new EMU bathrooms
    28 replies
  • OT: ESPN Mag/Insider special $5/Year
    22 replies
  • BBall year in review Deleted...
    8 replies
  • OT: RIP Dick Trickle and Ken Venturi
    14 replies
  • Siva Admits Trey Burke's Title Game Block Was Clean
    60 replies
  • Softball Open Thread 7pm vs Valpo ESPN3
    35 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 7
  • ››
  • OT: Ron English & Mike Hart to jump out of a plane for new EMU bathrooms
    28 replies
  • OT: Red Wings @ Hawks Game 2 Open Thread
    110 replies
  • Steve Everitt rips Notre Dame!
    22 replies
  • Michigan Baseball vs Nebraska on BTN Open Thread
    33 replies
  • OT- happy World Whisk(e)y day everyone!
    20 replies
  • Siva Admits Trey Burke's Title Game Block Was Clean
    60 replies
  • Marvin Robinson to FSU
    48 replies
  • OT: Preakness Stakes
    20 replies
  • Brady Hoke Calls Notre Dame A Chicken
    163 replies
  • OT: ESPN Mag/Insider special $5/Year
    22 replies
  • OT: RIP Dick Trickle and Ken Venturi
    14 replies
  • OT: IIHF Semifinal US vs Switzerland Open Thread
    2 replies
  • M Softball hosting Cal in Regional - 5/18
    20 replies
  • Michigan Women's Tennis Swept by UCLA
    1 replies
  • Michigan has #1 recruiting class on ESPN now.
    73 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 7
  • ››
  • OT: Red Wings @ Ducks Game 7 Open Thread
    229 replies
  • OT: Red Wings vs. Blackhawks Open Thread
    201 replies
  • Shane Morris to wear the famed #7 jersey, J.J. McGrath #46
    175 replies
  • Jabrill Peppers Announcement Date Set
    169 replies
  • Brady Hoke Calls Notre Dame A Chicken
    163 replies
  • UM 2014 Conf schedule football
    123 replies
  • Saturday night drinking thread
    121 replies
  • Brandon on Uniformzzz
    119 replies
  • Notre Dame's Nix fires back at Coach Hoke
    110 replies
  • OT: Red Wings @ Hawks Game 2 Open Thread
    107 replies
  • Alex Bars to Notre Dame
    96 replies
  • GoBlueWolverine's Dre Barthwell: Marvin Robinson to leave Michigan
    96 replies
  • Sparty losing recruits to the rap game
    95 replies
  • PSU about to get blasted again by SI investigative report
    88 replies
  • This week in schadenfreude - Chicago Bulls
    84 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 7
  • ››

mgo.licio.us

  • Big Ten football procrastinates on parity-based scheduling, and nothing ever changes

    the just released schedules were a flat-out statement that the B10 doesn't believe SOS will matter in playoff selection

    1 comments
  • Michigan's Glenn Robinson III, Mitch McGary ranked inside top 20 on ESPN's 2014 draft board

    but I thought that draft was supposed to be incredibly loaded?

    1 comments
  • Tim Hardaway Jr. turning heads, viewed as a first-rounder by some teams, analyst says

    If you're gonna go please be in the first round.

    0 comments
  • Michigan-Ohio State once, Indiana-Purdue once? The Big Ten has to protect its hoops rivalries

    another delightful side effect of a 14 team conference

    0 comments
  • Beilein on transfers: All should have to sit a year, regardless of situation

    I disagree.

    0 comments
  • Julie Hermann takes over as Rutgers AD, won't try to spend like Michigan

    GOOD PLAN

    1 comments
  • Jay Harris says no to Michigan State, decides to become a rapper

    hahahahaha

    0 comments
  • The Difference Between A Good Fan And A Bad Fan

    thoughtful piece from Jacobi on middle finger lady

    3 comments
  • Michigan's rising recruiting profile exciting John Beilein, who remains true to his scouting form

    Their high school coaches and AAU coaches have probably a better appreciation of Michigan than maybe they had before," Beilein said. "It's a tough balance right now. Tim Hardaway and Trey Burke weren't really high-profile players, nor was Darius Morris, and all were high-profile players. "We're still looking at 'who is the best fit.' "

    0 comments
  • Charles Barkley discusses Michael Jordan, Dream Team and more - NBA - Jack McCallum - SI.com

    "When I call somebody a midget, clearly I'm not trying to insult f---ing midgets. I'm just using basketball terminology."

    0 comments
  • Why does the NFL make for such bad media?

    robots

    0 comments
  • Pictured: Detroit's Robocop Statue nears completion date

    elsewhere in awesome things kickstarter made happen

    0 comments
  • Spectacular images of the madness that was the first FA Cup final

    And you think you're crowded at Michigan Stadium

    0 comments
  • Bear Vs. Monkey Bicycle Race Ends With Bear Eating Monkey

    IMPORTANT: Ondre Pipkins not involved.

    11 comments
  • Damon Bullock Has the Greatest Vine Account of All Time

    this is amazing

    7 comments

OT: Opinion Piece About why Kelly may Leave ND

63 posts / 0 new
Login or register to post comments
Last post
January 10th, 2013 at 6:04 PM
#1
MGlobules
Joined: 11/17/2008
MGoPoints: 5144
OT: Opinion Piece About why Kelly may Leave ND

 

Not a fan of Dennis Dodd, but in this piece he gets at the reason why Kelly might well leave--he was lucky as heck to go 12-0 this season and will have a hard time replicating the feat: 

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/21534588/kelly...

"[D]on't interpret Kelly's interview with Philadelphia as a “money grab. . He is/was going to get paid," Dodd writes. The reason why Kelly moved fast: "The bar has been set for him and his program. There is no going back. . . Ten wins won't be acceptable, probably not after this season. . . at the moment, there is more certainty that Kelly can get himself to the next level (NFL) than he can keep Notre Dame at its current level."

Anyone disagree with this assessment? Seems about right to me. 

Mod Edit: thought Kelly had decided to leave based on title. Edited said title. [zl]
Top
  • Login or register to post comments
Tags:
  • MGoBoard
  • football
  • Notre Dame; football; Brian Kelly

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
January 10th, 2013 at 6:09 PM | If you look at his recruiting classes.. (Score:5 Normal)
SalvatoreQuattro
SalvatoreQuattro's picture
Joined: 11/30/2010
MGoPoints: 2787

and then at ND's  future schedules(ACC) I would say that Kelly is on track to a sustained run of success at ND.  

That said, Kelly, like most coaches, has supreme confidence in his abilities. If he goes to the NFL it is because he wants to prove that he can win at the highest level in football. It isn't about money, but ego.

"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:24 PM | Dennis Dodd is dumb (Score:5 Normal)
Needs
Joined: 08/05/2008
MGoPoints: 4159

This. If Kelly leaves a destination job because he's afraid that he's going to be unable to maintain the level of success he's achieved after three years there, he'll be the first coach in the history of coaching to do that. If he goes to the NFL, it would be for many of the same reasons Harbaugh did: the challenge of coaching at the highest possible level, not because he's insecure about his recent success.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:11 PM | I agree (Score:1)
Charlie Chunk
Charlie Chunk's picture
Joined: 05/02/2011
MGoPoints: 607

You have to look at every opportunity.  There's an opening for an NFL job and they are considering Kelly.  He'd be stupid not to interview.

It might not ever happen again!

 

Don’t look back. Something might be gaining on you.  -Satchel Paige

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 11:45 PM | I hear the Lions are always (Score:0 Normal)
phork
phork's picture
Joined: 11/01/2009
MGoPoints: 1087

I hear the Lions are always on the hunt for good talent.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 11th, 2013 at 12:50 AM | F U (Score:3 Normal)
HAIL-YEA
Joined: 07/15/2009
MGoPoints: 1010

F U ..On a side note I notice your posts are much less trollish these days. You still get autonegged everytime you post, which makes me giggle.  just saying

How can you kill that which has no life

  • Login or register to post comments
January 11th, 2013 at 9:46 AM | Meh, I just consider the (Score:0 Normal)
phork
phork's picture
Joined: 11/01/2009
MGoPoints: 1087

Meh, I just consider the source.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:12 PM | Makes A Lot Of Sense (Score:5 Normal)
TheOtherOneGoes...
TheOtherOneGoesToMichigan's picture
Joined: 12/01/2008
MGoPoints: 663

Brian Kelly has always been good at gettin' out while the gettin' is good. He leaves Grand Valley after going 28-1 over two seasons. He leaves Central after going 9-4 (7-1 in the MAC). He leaves Cincinnati after going 12-0. Seems perfectly reasonable to assume he leaves Notre Dame after going 12-1

Adams Axiom: The major difference between something that might go wrong and something that can not possibly go wrong is that when a thing that can not possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 7:08 PM | Brian Kelly has also been a (Score:2 Normal)
ken725
ken725's picture
Joined: 10/26/2008
MGoPoints: 4540

Brian Kelly has also been a "climber" so it wouldn't surprise me.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

  • Login or register to post comments
January 11th, 2013 at 12:55 AM | Sheesh (Score:4 Insightful)
Cromulent
Cromulent's picture
Joined: 01/06/2011
MGoPoints: 206

Yes, he's quite the tool for wanting to move on from GVSU (lower division), CMU (AD didn't like him), Cincinnati (always 2nd fiddle).

The only thing you learn from history is that you never learn from history.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 11th, 2013 at 9:39 AM | Damn the facts - (Score:2 Interesting)
bubblelevel
Joined: 06/01/2011
MGoPoints: 219

Uhhh, Brian Kelly became head coach at GVSU in 1991.  Was on staff before since 1987.  Certainly "jumped ship" I absolutely agree.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:12 PM | You might want to change the (Score:5 Normal)
gutnedawg
Joined: 12/18/2010
MGoPoints: 359

You might want to change the title. I came in here thinking Kelly had decided to leave.

/°>

 

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:13 PM | Fix the title please (Score:5 Normal)
Gobgoblue
Joined: 07/07/2012
MGoPoints: 771

Fix the title please.  I thought you were breaking news that Kelly had made the jump.

Good info though; thanks for the post. 

I love Greg Mattison

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:21 PM | Agreed..I jumped to ESPN (Score:4 Normal)
SysMark
SysMark's picture
Joined: 11/15/2008
MGoPoints: 5564

Agreed..I jumped to ESPN before opening the thread.

Hope he knows what he's getting into if he goes to Philadelphia - rougher crowd than ND will ever be.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:23 PM | Kelly (Score:2)
EGD
EGD's picture
Joined: 09/16/2009
MGoPoints: 1862

I think the premise of the article is a bit flawed. Usually a 12-win season buys a college coach at least a couple years of a honeymoon period--I would think that's especially true at ND, which has endured some rough seasons of late. I think most ND fans would be pretty happy if 10 wins becomes their new normal.

"You will suffer humiliation when the team from my area defeats the team from your area." -- The Onion

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:38 PM | Gene Chizik (Score:5 Normal)
Gobgoblue
Joined: 07/07/2012
MGoPoints: 771

Gene Chizik says the honeymoon is 2 years.  Different situation (Cam Newton), but once a fanatically unreasonable fanbase becomes highly optomistic at a flip of a switch, it is hard to subdue them. 

I love Greg Mattison

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:39 PM | Kelly (Score:2)
EGD
EGD's picture
Joined: 09/16/2009
MGoPoints: 1862

Chizik would still be at Auburn if he'd followed up their title season with 10-win campaigns. I don't see Kelly back in the national championship game next season but I don't think the bottom completely falls out at ND either.

"You will suffer humiliation when the team from my area defeats the team from your area." -- The Onion

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:53 PM | Do you think ND (Score:3 Normal)
Gobgoblue
Joined: 07/07/2012
MGoPoints: 771

Do you think ND wins 10+ games next year?

 

/not tongue-in-cheek

 

They play us, OU, USC, Stanford, and MSU (whom I think may surprise them defensively), and Pitt.  They always have trouble with Pitt.   I dont see them better than 9-3, may be alone on that.  

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-13/indep/2013-notre-dame-fighting-irish-...

I love Greg Mattison

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 7:42 PM | ND (Score:2)
EGD
EGD's picture
Joined: 09/16/2009
MGoPoints: 1862

I wasn't saying Kelly would necessarily win 10 games per year at ND.  All I was saying is that if Kelly does wiin 10 games per year at ND, I don't think he'll be fired for underperformance.  (Dodd was arguing the opposite in the linked article).

I agree with your assessment that 3+ losses is likely for ND next season, given their personnel and the schedule they play.   That's all the more reason ND fans should be satisfied with Kelly if he posts double-digit wins again in 2013.

"You will suffer humiliation when the team from my area defeats the team from your area." -- The Onion

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 8:46 PM | This is my sense, too, and why I tended to agree (Score:2 Normal)
MGlobules
Joined: 11/17/2008
MGoPoints: 5144

with Dodd. But I'm not convinced Kelly is a great coach either, so what follows a 9-3 season, as I see it, is disenchantment, and sharply reduced possibilities as an NFL coach. It's not that Kelly sh*ts the bed, but that the NFL opportunities are ripest now; don't think Dodd gets that wrong. 

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 9:10 PM | You really need to look at it (Score:3 Normal)
trueblue262
trueblue262's picture
Joined: 07/01/2008
MGoPoints: 5

Without being a Michigan fan. It's hard because he's the coach of one of our rivals. But anybody that says Brian Kelly is not a good coach clearly does not know football. The guy has won everywhere he's been. Yeah, he might get a little "purple faced" once in a while with a player but so does saban. And ND has been putting some pretty good recruiting classes together too. Kelly can coach, and I'd be happy as hell if we didn't have to go against him on their sidelines next year

GRwolverine73

  • Login or register to post comments
January 11th, 2013 at 9:11 AM | For me being a "coach" goes way beyond football, and (Score:1)
MGlobules
Joined: 11/17/2008
MGoPoints: 5144

Kelly's already done plenty of things that would preclude me ever letting my son or daughter play for him. I'll leave it at that. And yes, he is a rival coach, and of course that colors my feelings. But these things also go beyond the rivalry. 

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 7:04 PM | Chizik won 11 *total* games after 2010 (Score:2 Normal)
befuggled
befuggled's picture
Joined: 07/01/2008
MGoPoints: 1019

He went 8-5 last year and 3-9 this year (including a 49-0 loss to Alabama). I don't know how many wins would have kept him at Auburn, but I know it was more than three and probably 8 or more.

I think Kelly almost certainly does better than that.

Where's Charlie Bauman when you need him?

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 7:07 PM | Exactly (Score:2 Normal)
Needs
Joined: 08/05/2008
MGoPoints: 4159

Chizik's a bad comparison. Auburn didn't decline to 10 win seasons. They declined to a 3 win season. They were 0-8 in the SEC and lost their last 2 SEC games by a combined 87-0. They suffered a historic collapse for a BCS champion, and there was a convincing narrative about why Chizik as relatively unimportant to their success (Cam/Malzahn). 

  • Login or register to post comments
January 11th, 2013 at 1:00 AM | Its not that Chizik was (Score:2 Normal)
Cromulent
Cromulent's picture
Joined: 01/06/2011
MGoPoints: 206

Its not that Chizik was unimportant to their success, its that he vigorously ran off the guy primarily responsible for their success - Malzahn - and hired a guy to replace him with a philosophy so different that it essentially guaranteed at least a season of failure.

The only thing you learn from history is that you never learn from history.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:30 PM | it all stinks (Score:3 Normal)
superstringer
superstringer's picture
Joined: 02/04/2009
MGoPoints: 970

This has become a ritualistic dance for college coaches.

Why interview for the NFL? It's always the same thing.

1. Ego.  It says, you good enough to be invited to the game.

2.  Leverage for a pay raise.

3.  Prestige -- gives you an incremental reason to look better with recruits, asst coaches, etc.

4.  Why not?  Strike when the iron is hot.

5.  Most coaches probably look at the NFL as a fantasy job -- not only insane paydays, but, if you're a competitive person, why not compete at the highest level.  Harbaugh's the example of that.

So Kelly is probably subject to at least 3-4 of these reasons.  Whatever.  I can't be more clear:  There's nothing to see here.

Saban turning down the NFL is more newsworthy than Kelly, or anyone who just made a BCS case, in talking to the NFL.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 11th, 2013 at 1:12 AM | #6-10 reasons (Score:1)
YoOoBoMoLloRoHo
YoOoBoMoLloRoHo's picture
Joined: 11/01/2012
MGoPoints: 1002

Actually focus on football and eliminate a ton of university politics (boosters, academic requirements, NCAA rules/tracking, Ath dept BS, etc).

The univ burden is huge and most of these guys "just want to get paid for coaching football." I would guess the crapola is super thick in South Bend with all the pretentious alumni & church ties.

"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak.  But it takes everybody."  - Charles Woodson

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:30 PM | His stock will never be (Score:5 Normal)
Blue-Chip
Blue-Chip's picture
Joined: 01/06/2010
MGoPoints: 2950

His stock will never be higher. This team overachieved, and as I've stated several times on this blog, he was overrated before. If he intends to go, now is the best time.

Your friendly neighborhood contrarian.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:48 PM | Bullshit...  his team didn't (Score:-1 Trolling)
VelikovskysDog
Joined: 09/10/2009
MGoPoints: 346

Bullshit...  his team didn't 'overachieve'.....     ND earned it... anyone who was watching closely, saw their trajectory....  and soon ours will be similar.   Kelly is a great coach.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 7:06 PM | What? The beat Pitt because (Score:5 Normal)
WolvinLA2
WolvinLA2's picture
Joined: 11/13/2009
MGoPoints: 17610

What? The beat Pitt because Pitt missed a chip shot field goal, they beat Stanford because a clear TD was ruled as coming up short, they beat us because we had 5 turnovers and they beat USC because instead of Matt Barkley they played a frosh in his first ever start. They finished the season by losing to Alabama as bad as anybody all season. Their only real win was against an Oklahoma team that was very clearly overrated (and who also beat nobody).

I'm not saying ND isn't a top 25 team, but they were lucky to be top 10. If Pitt hits that FG or we don't implode or Barkley plays, ND is outside the top 15 I bet.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 7:33 PM | Six turnovers (Score:2 Trolling)
PurpleStuff
PurpleStuff's picture
Joined: 04/21/2009
MGoPoints: 10412

We had six turnovers.

/douchechill

It is spelled HOKEAMANIA.  Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:39 PM | Really? We are supposed to (Score:1 Overrated)
evenyoubrutus
evenyoubrutus's picture
Joined: 11/04/2008
MGoPoints: 4707

Really? We are supposed to believe that someone at this high a level is going to leave a job because the expectations are too high? These college football coaches get to where they are by going up against unfairly high expectations their whole careers. Plus, are you kidding me? The NFL? Because the expectations aren't high in the NFL are they.

Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:40 PM | Fine line (Score:5 Normal)
PurpleStuff
PurpleStuff's picture
Joined: 04/21/2009
MGoPoints: 10412

ND beat Purdue by 3, Michigan by 7, BYU by 3, Stanford in OT, and Pitt in 3OT, all at home.  They beat USC, without their starting QB, by 9. 

And it isn't like any of those programs had great years, outside of Stanford (and they had issues on offense all season long).

If Te'o hadn't come back, what is ND's record this year?  With him leaving, not to mention a bunch of key components on offense, and the schedule probably getting more difficult before it gets easier, I'm sure Kelly sees a difficult task in front of him, especially when you consider 9-3 and missing out on a BCS bowl would probably be viewed as a failure. 

Especially with the way the title game went, a few 8-5 seasons could easily put him back on the hotseat in South Bend.  I see that as more likely than continued 10+ win seasons. 

Looking at it from Kelly's point of view, he can stay at ND where he will have to maintain an extremely high level of success from here on out or potentially get canned in 2-3 years (let's not forget how quickly fans forgot Chizik's success, and he actually won a national title at a school with no history of doing so in modern times).  Or he can get a raise to go coach in the NFL where he only has to focus on X's and O's and where 4-5 losses a year is considered a great season.  And even if he lands in a bad spot and fails to win games, he can always go back to college where he'll still be a highly prized asset.

It is spelled HOKEAMANIA.  Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:42 PM | If he ever had designs on (Score:3 Normal)
ESNY
Joined: 11/06/2008
MGoPoints: 673

If he ever had designs on going to the NFL, this is probably the best chance for him.  He has taken a team and greatly improved them year to year which culminated in an undefeated regular season.   Take that plus the extraordinary amount of NFL jobs available and it stands to reason his position would never be better.    Thats why he would go, not because of the pressure to duplicate his efforts again because its only going to increase in multiples once he deals with NFL fans (and increase exponentially if those NFL fans reside in Philly)

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:50 PM | If Kelly (Score:-1 Overrated)
2001UofMGrad
2001UofMGrad's picture
Joined: 12/21/2012
MGoPoints: 16

goes to the nfl. Urban jumps all over that

job and ohio eats a fat one in two years. E-A-G-L-E-S... Eagles! Let me dream.

Nik "The Loon" Stauskas is amaahhzing!!

It's great to be a MICHIGAN WOLVERINE!!!!

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:54 PM | Huh? So Urban takes a job (Score:5 Normal)
Needs
Joined: 08/05/2008
MGoPoints: 4159

Huh? So Urban takes a job that he already turned down when he went to Florida? That makes no sense.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:50 PM | I agree with the luck of the Irish (Score:4 Normal)
markusr2007
markusr2007's picture
Joined: 10/21/2008
MGoPoints: 3419

Not sure what their turnover margin was this year either, but I'm sure it was astronomical and unlikely to repeat.  Teo had like 7 INTs alone.

But Kelly is a good coach and has been successful everywhere he's been: GVSU, CMU, Cincy, NDame.

Notre Dame would lament this loss, but I think more kudos should be given to the Eagles for considering it. 

So far Kelly has proven to be very opportunistic with new job offers, but I have the feeling he has unfinished business and will stay with the Irish.

 

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 6:58 PM | It's nice to have a coach (Score:5 Normal)
UMxWolverines
UMxWolverines's picture
Joined: 03/01/2009
MGoPoints: 5222

It's nice to have a coach that you know won't be interviewing with any NFL teams.

"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 7:00 PM | I am just as sure Kelly won't leave college for the NFL (Score:3 Normal)
Don
Don's picture
Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 19189

as I was that Lewan will leave college for the NFL.


  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 7:01 PM | The only reason why Kelly (Score:2)
NFG
NFG's picture
Joined: 04/24/2012
MGoPoints: 2136

The only reason why Kelly would leave for the NFL is because he would have high expectations for himself. You always want to progress forward, move forward.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 7:07 PM | Kelly is worried about (Score:3 Normal)
gbdub
gbdub's picture
Joined: 02/16/2010
MGoPoints: 2468

Kelly is worried about keeping up his high level of success, so he's considering a job with.... the Eagles?

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 7:08 PM | Kelly is emulating his hero... (Score:3 Normal)
BlueMan80
BlueMan80's picture
Joined: 01/21/2011
MGoPoints: 2373

Les Miles.  This strategy always gets more cash for Les.  [bad pun intended]

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 7:19 PM | He strikes me as the type of (Score:3 Normal)
AA2Denver
AA2Denver's picture
Joined: 02/01/2011
MGoPoints: 396

He strikes me as the type of guy who gets irritated rather quickly. I imagine dealing with boosters and parents probably aren't his favorite things about college coaching. 

-----------------

Screw Lance.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 7:25 PM | So he'd prefer to substitute (Score:1 Overrated)
ESNY
Joined: 11/06/2008
MGoPoints: 673

So he'd prefer to substitute boosters and parents with overpaid, entitled players many of whom make more money than him, agents, union reps and arcane work rules, GMs/owners, etc?  

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 10:16 PM | nfl players don't make more (Score:2)
david from wyoming
david from wyoming's picture
Joined: 03/15/2009
MGoPoints: 2813

nfl players don't make more money than nfl owners.

Are you a park ranger at Yellowstone? Say hi to Yogi Bear for me. - the_big_house 500th

I may not be a 70 year old man. - Herm

  • Login or register to post comments
January 11th, 2013 at 11:46 AM | You read it wrong (Score:2)
Westwood
Joined: 04/23/2009
MGoPoints: 209

You read it wrong. He's just saying that many NFL players make more than the coaches and that the coaches have to deal with GM's, owners, work rules, etc.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 11th, 2013 at 1:14 AM | Truth is (Score:2)
Cromulent
Cromulent's picture
Joined: 01/06/2011
MGoPoints: 206

Kelly is pretty darned good at handling the wider support communities involved with the program. Its something he took seriously each step of the way.

GVSU was pretty easy and Mt Pleasant did require a little more of his time. The jump at Cinci was huge and the AD there made sure Kelly knew it was an important part of the job. BK stepped up and did by all accounts a marvelous job on the banquet circuit.

In fact that success contributed to an amusing level of griping when he left for South Bend. As though Cinci boosters could somehow begrudge him that job. BK's sales job convinced them he really wanted to stay for the long haul.

The only thing you learn from history is that you never learn from history.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 7:27 PM | I cxould see Kelly going long before Urban goes to ND (Score:1 Normal)
AMazinBlue
AMazinBlue's picture
Joined: 10/12/2008
MGoPoints: 2250

Urban didn't go to ND before because they won't relax the academic standards for the football program.  Urban tried to get that deal and they said no.   He's not stupid, he coached against Miles and Saban, he knows you can't compete aginst that kind of talent unless the Administration looks the other way when it comes to restrictions and high standards.

Heck, we're going to have a very tough time getting anywhere near Bama's stature because, it's win at all costs down there. Signing 4-6 more kids thanh everyone else and booting the lower end schollie kids that don't make the championship cut.  Every year Saban signs 3-5 more kids than we do and has more 5-star and 4-stars than we do.  Stars don't guarantee anything, but the potential for greatness is higher and the pct is on his side.

Plus the school will let him hire ANY assistant he wants at any $$$.  It's tough to compete against that all the time.

Kelly is fighting for more $$ for assistants so he can get a better defense.  That's what ND needs, they'll get the recruits.

Why do you think Brandon let Hoke get whoever he wanted on defense?  You have to spend the $$$ to be able to compete today.  The playing field has decidely tipped the SEC's way and it ain't leveling out any time soon.

What the mind can conceive and believe, the mind can achieve and...Those Who Stay WILL Be Champions.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 10th, 2013 at 9:29 PM | I agree (Score:0 Flamebait)
Leonhall
Leonhall's picture
Joined: 06/14/2012
MGoPoints: 700

With you, but we have very little chance of ever being Bama....just saying...doesn't mean we can't be very good...

Denard Robinson......They're not going to catch him!

  • Login or register to post comments
January 11th, 2013 at 1:16 AM | Kelly already has the most (Score:2)
Cromulent
Cromulent's picture
Joined: 01/06/2011
MGoPoints: 206

Kelly already has the most important assistant of all: Chuck Martin. The guy can coach. I'd dump Diaco and give Martin the entire defense.

The only thing you learn from history is that you never learn from history.

  • Login or register to post comments
January 11th, 2013 at 9:48 AM | Does Martin have a defensive (Score:1 Normal)
phork
phork's picture
Joined: 11/01/2009
MGoPoints: 1087

Does Martin have a defensive background?  Just wondering, I don't know too much outside of his time at ND.  Currently he is the offensive co-ordinator and QB coach, sending him to defense seems counter intuitive.

  • Login or register to post comments
  • 1
  • 2
  • next ›
  • last »
Powered by Pressflow, an open source content management system
Theme provided by Roopletheme; sidebars adapted from Chris Murphy.