I would write something about this article, but I can't. I feel dirty.
well that's just, like, your opinion, man
I would write something about this article, but I can't. I feel dirty.
that is pretty fucked up.
i mean, there's humor, even dark humor. and then there's this, which just a step below going to happy valley and defecating on Joe Paterno's grave.
I read it and theres no laughs, just the same cringe-inducing note over and over again
it's supposed to be biting and pissed-off.
but spot on, I'm afraid.
I have always, and even more now, hated the fucking Onion. It wasn't relevant when it was relevant.
But too soon, way too soon. And don't make the mistake of reading the article like I did. Sick.
What on earth was he doing there? He turned a funeral into a side show event. The guy truly needs to disappear.
Rest in Peace Joe Pa.
Its the Onion
It's the Onion. The interview never happened and I'd be shocked if that photo wasn't photoshopped. It's the Onion's idea of humor to fake an interview with a child rapist in which Sandusky praises JoePa for everything he did.
it's the Onion's idea of biting social commentary to illustrate the absurdity of the media's coverage of Joe Paterno's death by having Sandusky praise Paterno in a similar way that everyone else has been praising Paterno.
I guess I see that. The whole business just leaves such a bitter taste in my mouth that even social commentary is tough to take.
Well said, can't believed this is lost on so many people.
Yes, the Onion is parody, but it often has a point to it, not just some dumb site you go to to watch a dude get hit by a football thrown by son.
Totally shooped, here's the original. I didn't embed it cause I don't want to sully the thread.
Can somebody please post the link to that up on Black Shoes diary? Talk about hitting the nail squarely on the head - these guys have done it. What the wrote is 100% spot on
after that. Damn. Just... damn.
All that this article is doing is putting fictional quotes to the point that Brian made. Paterno enabled Sandusky to do all the f'd up things he did. This is exactly what Joe-pa did. I don't think this article is taking any cheap shots at all, it's just putting the actual situation into perspective.
maybe, but you know, have some respect for the dead, huh?
neg me all you want, Joepa lost his right to respect (dead or alive) when he turned his head.
Is it really about having respect for the dead, or asking people to respect a person you respect? Kim Jung Il and Usama bin Laden didn't get any respect from the board after their deaths, and nobody had a problem with that (note: I'm not comparing those people, other than to say they're all dead and received different responses to their deaths).
I think it has more to do with people respecting Paterno before he died, and nothing to do with the fact that he's dead.
Why have respect for the dead, what great accomplishment is it to die where you can't be criticized anymore. I don't think that breathing is an invititation to disrespect and that dying is an automatic revocation of the right to disrespect someone.
Treat the living and the dead with the amount of respect that they deserve. Joe-pa enabled the gruesome and terrible acts of Sandusky and just because he died doesn't mean we forget about or cover up these terrible acts.
Every eulogy and article about Joe-pa talks about all the good he did for 18-22 yr old boys. What about all the good he didn't do for 12-15 yr old boys. I'm not saying that this gets rid of all the good he did, but we can't act like he was such a saint with what we know happened. It's important that we take the bad with the good when we think about his legacy.
While we may not like what the article has to say, tell me what part of it is false.
no one will be saying "respect for the dead, can't talk about the child rape." Nor should they. Everyone agrees that "respect for the dead" evaporates at a certain level of heinous behavior. Joe Paterno's behavior was clearly nowhere near the evil of Sandusky. But, to me at least, it was easily bad enough that I just don't care about "respect for the dead" with regard to him.
in terms of a shot to the victims. Shot might not be the word I'm looking for since this was obviously aimed at Joepa and Sandusky. Maybe show some respect for the victims? I do love a good barbous (word?) shot at douchebags but the victims could read this, too.
I'm not getting all the backlash either. Yes, the humor is dark; on the other hand, the situation is dark. This is a good commentary on Paterno's ultimate legacy, and I think it brings the point home well.
South Park didn't get the outrage on this board when they were recycling old Catholic priest jokes on an episode last season.
i peed myself reading that.
The Onion is the best at using comedy to illuminate the truth.
I couldn't even laugh
Yeah, it is scary when a parody article gets to the truth of the matter better than the MSM and seems to understand the truth better than the general public.
This headline is also quite relevant:
And too soon does not count when someone was hurt and hurt bad by the actions of the deceased. Once you do what Joe did you give up the right to have you life remembered differently than it really was. Sorry Joe, I wish it were different.
But not sure it was intended to be... it buried the punchline, but the article is a major slap in the face. Good read - awkward, sure, but sorry, amidst the memorials and ESPN fawning over JoePa's passing, are we really going to pretend that this sort of commentary isn't fair game?
Sorry - the dead may be buried, but these issues can't, and shouldn't be buried. The proverbial "elephant in the room" in that article was spot-on.
I've been following #positivePSUtweets (engendered by deadspin) all day and its been messy and hilarious. Its pretty dark, just like this article.
That article is freaking brilliant, and anyone who doesn't recognize that should be ashamed.
Phil Knight just ripped Penn State for the Sandusky investigation. I bet the kids in his factories are proud.
Touche Mike, touche.
Nike has done a 180 on labor practices since the 1990s. Children don't make Nike shoes these days.
Not going to get into a debate, since its way OT, but Nike's hands still aren't clean.
Its kind of fitting too, since we're talking about decade-old transgressions.
...and all that, are we sure that it's a fake interview? Because that's probably about what Sandusky would say. Happy Valley should be renamed Delusionville.
I enjoyed the BCS article there:
but this just seemed way too dark for me. Can't believe the phrase "too soon?" hasn't been written like a thousand times in this thread.
Disgusting situation and disgusting topic for a "humor" rag... I like the onion but I could barely click this thread let alone the article
The point was to remind the reader of Paterno's role in Sandusky's alleged crimes.
I guess I'm one who thinks Paterno's role has been overstated, that the article is untimely and disrespectful in its very existence, and that The Onion should stick tto zingers. But to each its own.
Is summed up pretty much perfectly in that Onion piece. At the risk of beating a dead horse, people aren't saying, "Joe could be kind of a jerk" or "Joe should have run a more wide-open offense" or "Joe wasn't a great recruiter there at the end." What's being said is that Joe let a guy who he knew was a rapist of children - who used PSU facilities to commit his acts - to continue to bring children to PSU facilities w/out being monitored.
....after he testified to the grand jury that McQuery told him something sexual happened between Sandusky and the child in the showers. For an entire year after his testimony. After he testified to the grand jury. And then came out with a statement that he didn't even know what a man raping a boy meant. Literally. He didn't know how it would happen.
And I think the nature of the atrocities amplifies the import of action... and many think he didn't act appropriately once he heard the news but, 1) He went to campus police, and 2) He was senile at that point as evidenced by the fact that he didn't know how manlove could occur.
What happened was awful. Joe Pa could have done more and should have done more. But I don't think he's as culpable as is being painted. And I don't think what happened should taint the preceding decades of teaching and success. Nor do I think it's appropriate to mock the man's funeral.
But again, I hear you guys.
I think his senility and frailty at age 84 might explain why he thought he could claim that he didn't even understand pedophilic rape in an interview. But he's completely full of shit about not getting it 10 years earlier - at the height of the Catholic Church scandal. Yes, yes - JoePa came from the sheltered, quaint land of ... Brooklyn, in the distant decades before anyone had any idea that someone could sexually assault a child.
He's the unfrozen caveman coach.
by our pals at The Onion. Can't imagine EVERYONE thought the linked was hilarious, but, it was pretty damn funny. Re: Paterno/Sandusky, that's a bit riskier (and lewd and risque), I didn't think the pay-off was quite as high as they might have...
Enjoy an oldie, but a goodie!
The best part about this article is that there isn't a single "joke" in the whole damn thing. In fact, had the scandal never occurred this article could easily have been written by the legit press as an actual obit piece. Juxtaposing that against what actually happened in the real world and you have a simple yet brilliant piece of satire.
I saw this yesterday, and assumed it was *supposed* to be disturbing -- because the situation IS disturbing. As a former journalist, I actually thought it was a pretty masterful skewering of the media and the ways the media can use omission, vague quotes and carefully selected wording to paint a subjective picture.
does not have to be funny, to all those complaning this wasnt "funny" enough. without a doubt this, along with brian's piece, was one of the best things ive read on joepa's passing.
One of the better ones from the Onion, I would say.
Their stuff seems pretty hit and miss to me.
I get the tone and purpose of the piece, but it's still very inappropriate.
That some pretty bad phrasing given the current situation.
"How many people honestly get to fulfill their very deepest desires in life?" Sandusky said. "Let alone fulfill those desires over and over again, year in and year out, day after day, for decades? That's the kind of life Joe allowed me to live."
Hard to not take that the wrong way.
Satire is a blade to be wielded with poise and flourish. This was a blunt instrument to the face.
There are posters above who apparently didn't even realize that it was satire. So it wasn't that blunt.
"Ohhhhh..." (Once I got the "joke"), "OHHHHHHH!!" I don't think this as clever as it is brutally honest.
I think taking a different perspective than the mainstream public mourning for Paterno is a defensible position given the heinous crimes that were allegedly committed in his facilities. Plus it's a darn good piece of satirical writing. The truth hurts.