0-0 with 9 minutes and some change to go in the first quarter, but Iowa State threatening. This might be the first time on a weeknight this month that ESPN has not shown MAC action.
landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
Go, go, go, shit, shit, f-ing incompletion, kick is no good.
I have to sound crass, but the whole "Women's basketball team" tragedy bit sounded really forced. I wish they could just talk about it without sounding like the football was rending their hair over it. I have a hard time believe the womens basketball coach and the fooball players had some kind of deep, emotional bond that leaves them seperated. I'd have really just gone for a tribute piece instead of 10 minutes of "look how sad the football players are".
....a uniform, universal tribute to their lives would have been excellent. It seemed like they were almost trying too hard to be sad in a situation that needed no urging.
I would be surprised if most of the football players had even seen the two coaches in person before. They were undoubtedly sad about the tragedy, but was more of a media creation IMO.
One of my daughters is an MSU grad, another is a student at OSU (not tOSU)--we live in Oklahoma. Last year she worked serving food to the athletes. The football team and men's and women's basketball teams eat together. They are the full scholarship athletes who get the top shelf food. My daughter says the assistant coaches often eat there as well, including men's and women's basketball coaches, but rarely head football coach Mike Gundy, so most of the football players would have at least seen the women's basketball coaches.
OSU has a bye week next week, so their next game is against OU--OSU's biggest game of the year, every year (OU's biggest game is Texas), and of course with both teams as highly ranked as they are, this year's game is especially big, making this game a huge trap game for OSU to start with. Also, OSU has been spotty. They look unstoppable against some teams and mediocre against others. They will have their hands full with OU.
I've got the game on because there's nothing better for me to do until bar time. I have my favorite couch & a slow infusion of alcohol into the bloodstream ... all I can think about is beating Nebraska. I love saturdays.
The way to start a drive after a fumble recovery against the #2 team in the country is NOT a false start penalty. It makes it look like, "Awesome. We got the ball. Now what?"
You know, Virginia Tech played a weeknight game on ESPN last night.
So it hasn't really been that long since ESPN showed a non-MAC weeknight game
I started the thread on it too. I am rusty at non-MAC threads apparently.
What the hell....
CMU vs. Toledo on ESPNU
I have some paint during on my walls this evening. I think I'll watch that instead.
Pick up a 2-inch brush and paint around the trim in my bedroom hallway. I'll follow with the roller.
Only if you agree to help me paint pink stripes in our unborn's room. Yuck. Deal?
I'll bring tape and spacers so the stripes are at least evenly spaced.
Oh, by the way, it's the same shade of pink, just different sheens. Good times.
Did you decide on an alternating eggshell / satin / gloss thing? Vision problems early for this kid?
If I was ever consulted, we would be doing none of that. However, my opinion does not matter. Can you believe it? (/s)
I was handed a swatch of Behr colors and told that these are the ones I should buy, right down to finish and number of cans. The wife is orgnaized like that.
Slowest pick 6 eva!
He could have walked that in....it took ISU literally minutes to figure out what happened.
LSU/Alabama/Arkansas is going to murder everyone on Oklahoma State if OK State makes the title game. This is a disaster--and they're up 10-0.
So, a rather quick, efficient game then....
Oklahoma State isn't close to those teams athletically. LSU's defense would seriously kill Weeden.
Any of those teams would destroy them.
Like a lopsided boxing match really, "OK, go to your corners. When the bell rings, LSU will come out and beat your head in."
This ^^^ is one of my favorite comments ever. Congratulations.
Arkansas is bad. A&M gave them the win (they're really generous), Vandy should have beat them, and Ole Miss (OLE MISS) led most of the way against them.
Oklahoma State up at the half, which ended in a clusterf*ck of fairly obscure rules, such as the half being unable to end on a defensive penalty, but since it was a dead ball, the half CAN end....point being, it's halftime.
I have this game on mute and I'm playing Skyrim, yet I still feel it is terrible. Although the world's slowest runback was cool.
Iowa State is learning that you need to attempt coverage before it is "blown coverage".
Man, the joy in these announcers' voices when ISU does something good is unmistakable. Maybe I'm biased because I'm rooting for Oklahoma State, but I mean, come on.
an upset brewing.
Weeden's Heisman chances should be done after this. Also, I don't really like the idea that someone who is 28 years old, which is OLDER than Aaron Rodgers, can win the Heisman.
won the Heisman who is about the same age as Brandon Weeden so.......
I just turned it on for that TD drive, but this Ok St. team doesn't really play defense. Has that been the case all season?
I don't want a rematch for the championship. Looking more and more likely although maybe Oklahoma moves back into position.
24-24 with 4 mins left. ISU is fired up. Ought to be a great finish.
i think ok st. has been poor defensively - but has been able to offset that with creating turnovers.
also, how good do you have to be defensively when you average 50+ a game?
as i type this - OK St - INT
Why the hell didn't Iowa State call a timeout there? Football coaches are ridiculous.
thats the smell of controversey. I think that field goal was good
The entire football has to pass to the inside of the upright extended. That ball clearly went directly over it.
well than nevermind, but I can't help but think that if OK State loses that, that will be their cop out.
missed the kick - noose on OSU is starting to tighten.
OK St leads the nation in turnover margin - +1.8/game
by comparison - Michigan is #34 - at +0.40
Come on BCS Chaos
Let me amend my earlier statement. I don't want an Alabama-LSU rematch. Oregon-LSU I could maybe stomach but not two SEC teams in the championship. The outcry for playoffs would be too loud to ignore. Why you ask? Just look at this game. Who would have thought ISU would beat OSU? Any team can beat any other team. No Alabama-LSU rematch.
Holy Crap! ISU just might do this.
WHEEL OF DOOM (illinois '10 flashbacks!!!!)
Great defense on that opening touchdown of overtime.
Welcome to Big 12 Football.
Anyone having else having an Illinois 2010 flashback?
Does it remind you of anything? It was the same play Illinois burned on us Last Year
Gonna get close and throw fades to Blackmon until he snags one
Oh my v2.0
wow. this one might as well be over
that should be it.
Every game's a playoff game.
and more WOW, INT
How bad does it suck to be an OSU fan right now?
so who shall it be:
oregon or alabama?
No matter what, it looks like a rematch.
I think Oklahoma jumps both of they win out...
I'm with Oregon, if they win out. They've vastly improved since the LSU game in September, and peaking at the right time.
Please anyone but Alabama/LSU again! Watch LSU lose in the SEC Championship game.
Listening to the media slobber over 2 SEC schools in the national championship game...that will suck beyond words.
To beat LSU and/or Bama.
If they set up an in conference rematch where the SEC is guaranteed another title after 2006 where everyone said "nooo, we can't do that", I'm going to strangle somebody.
It's definitely better than the PSU lion growl.
Did anyone really think that OSU was the legit #2 team in the country? I think not. And Bama needs to keep quiet, you scored 9 points on your home field.
They scored 6 points at home. Oregon scored 27 against the same defense on a neutral site. West Virginia put up 21. Hell, Kentucky put up 7 in Baton Rouge. Western Kentucky put up 9. Alabama does not have a good enough offense to get a rematch.
to compare scores. The game dictated that both offenses be more conservative to not lose it for their defenses. Bama's offense has been qute good in every other game against a competitive schedule, and they outgained LSU. A lot of people don't like the way Saban does things, but look at the product on the field and there is no other team as good.
Now, whether the BCS will agree or not? That's anybody's guess. Oregon definitely has a leg up with the opportunity to play in a conference championship game.
You guys hearing the song choice? Hahaha
Reinforces everything Brian's been saying about piped-in music around here for the last three years.
Yay, 2 SEC teams going to the championship game! Isn't this a great day you guys? Won't that be fun?
Had to be some of the worst defense and tackling I've ever seen from a top 10 team.
Great game for Iowa State.
After '06 I hope to never see a rematch in the championship game.
The two teams who seem most likely to play LSU in the title game—Oregon and Alabama—have already played LSU once.
Realizing that was the inspiration for that comment. I especially don't want to see 2 SEC teams in the championship game.
At least it would be two conference champions. Alabama won't even be a division winner. I guess I'm mildly pulling for Oregon. Oklahoma's loss at home to Texas Tech is by far the worst loss by a top 10 team this year.
so what if Arkansas beats LSU now? and is OU screwed over now because now they don't get a shot to beat the #2 team in the country? will anyone care if houston goes undefeated?
Flag on the final td play?
I saw that too. Well I saw ESPN's flag indicator thing come up for a second, not an actual flag. Maybe it was a mistake by ESPN, or maybe it was just on the D.
The winner in Bedlam is still going to be in the title game (especially if it's Oklahoma). Voters will jump them to avoid a rematch.
I have watched quite a few games the last 2 years called by Joe Tessitore and I gotta say he is the man. Very underrated announcer.
#1 LSU still has to play #6 Arkansas
#2 Alabama & #3 Oregon take care of business this week & next
Who plays in National Champ? Alabama vs. Oregon, both at 11-1, with their losses to #3 LSU?
What a joke. The BCS is really causing me to be more jaded each passing year with CFB because it's such a sham. Why do I put so much of my time to invest in watching games & following CFB for such an unsatisfying conclusion?
the trojans they could very well upset the ducks tommorow.
I actually wouldn't mind a 'Bama/Oregon NC game, simply because it would screw over one of the biggest douches in college football.
That being said, fuck Saban.
It doesn't make a difference. If the playloffs had LSU and Bama in different brackets they would meet in the Championship game anyway. Tonight just proved LSU and Bama are the two best teams by far this year. Hate to say it.
It proved that Oklahoma State isn't as good as some were claiming they were. It said absolutely nothing about either LSU or Alabama. I think Oregon would stomp Bama right now.
LSU beat Alabama in ot by a field goal. Oregon couldn't move the ball on LSU. Just face it Oregon doesnt win big games. Oregon beats up on teams with half-assed defenses.
Oregon dropped 27 on LSU. They moved the ball quite nicely, especially considering the injuries they had at the time. LSU/Bama was a close game, but I think LSU played way better in the season opener, Bama looked awful, and Oregon has gotten stronger as the season has gone on. But we will see what the coming weeks hold.
This could be the year that playoffs really gain momentum. Especially if the voters decide to have two teams from one conference play for the championship.
...........who I'd want to see in the NC game. If it's LSU and Bama, then the push for a playoff would be huge, which could be good for college football. However, just as Urban Meyer argued in 06', the two teams in the NC game should be conference champions.
I'd also hate to see the B12 winner in the NC game, mainly because whether it's OkSt. or Oklahoma, both would have a very bad loss on their resume. At this point, LSU and Oregon looks to be the best matchup even though they've played once already. Oregon proved they could score and move the ball on LSU but turnovers killed them in that game.
As an aside, how in the hell can OK St. go from scoring a video game numbers win last week in dominating fashion, only to lose to a team like ISU this week.
This is a huge help to Michigan's BCS chances. It's now very possible that the loser of the OU/OSU game won't make a BCS bowl, considering they'll be a 2 loss team that just lost their last game and carries a smaller brand than Michigan. If Houston ends up losing, or Oregon/Stanford loses again and Michigan wins out, I don't see how Michigan won't make a BCS game.
Err you forgot to include that Michigan has to win out... Not a forgone conclusion by any stretch.
A lot of people may be angry about it, but LSU Bama NC may be a reality. I personally would not mind such a game, as it would be close and competitive (despite low scoring).
The favorites right now in this chaotic 2nd slot for the BCS title game are Oregon and Alabama, with Oklahoma in the mix. One of those three probably gets in to play LSU. And LSU doesn't even have a cakewalk either, with 2 games remaining against Top 15 teams.
It'll be interesting to see how this chaos plays out over the last couple of weeks.
The voters (writers/coaches) will probably vote against a Bama LSU rematch and instead vote for oregon. Oregot has two things going for them. Their only loss was the first game of the year against LSU and Oregon gets to play an extra game over Bama. Oregon gets to prove themselves tot he voters in the Pac 12 championship and Bama doesn't get to go to their championship game. That 1 game can put Oregon at #2. Oregon will be in the NC game if they win out IMO.
Football is weird, man.
But no way should the national championship be a rematch. Remember the Urban Meyer rule? Assuming LSU wins, I still think that the winner of Oklahoma vs. Oklahoma State should go. Or maybe Houston.
They play less defense than OSU.
They and LSU are the only undefeated teams left. Is the BCS meant to pair the best teams together, or the most deserving? Because I don't think Houston could be any more deserving than they have been this season.
Houston played one team from an automatic-bid conference, a bad team at that, and barely beat them. Second, they need to beat SMU and Tulsa first. Honestly, I don't see them getting past Tulsa, who have blown the same level of competition Houston has beat out of the water. If Houston played Tulsa's schedule this year (Oklahoma Stater, Boise, and Oklahoma), Houston would have their same three loss record.
Oh and they also probably will need to beat Southern Miss as well.
If it didn't happen then, it can't happen now.
And if it does, I hate everything.
did anyone else just see that interveiw with Jay paterno on sportscenter. He was talking about how Joe isn't worried about his cancer and not to bug him about it, and Jay said "He has the tendency to minimize things" I would say so considering thats why he doesn't have a job anymore.
Give Houston a shot. The only problem is, LSU would playing in the Superdome in New Orleans which is where they won their past two championships (2003 & 2007). Ironic.
Someday when Michigan wins #12, if it's in Pasadena I'll probably cry. That's where Michigan won 2 out of their last 3.
Big time overrated. They've played one BCS team which was UCLA and they barely won. I don't want to see LSU beat Houston 56-7 in the national championship game
Didn't some team with a wacky blue field beat oklahoma in the fiesta bowl about 5 years ago? They didn't really beat anyone that year either.
God I want playoffs. Death to you BCS.
but I'm against Boise playing in the title game until they play a Big 6 schedule. There are lots of teams that beat one top 25 team a year. Boise plays no one and should not be rewarded with a national title for beating 2 good teams and 10 awful teams and the same goes for Houston. I bet Alabama, LSU, Ohio State, Florida, USC, Oregon, whoever easily could have gone undefeated with Boise's schedule in any of the last 5 years.
Basically the only way to ever solve any of this for sure is to have a playoff
continues to beat big time teams in regular season and bowl games. They're different than Houston.
that basically, yes, Boise is a top 10-15 team for sure but since essentially 10 of their weeks are bye weeks, they miss they chances to get knocked off by decentish Big 6 teams ala TTU over OU or Iowa State over Okie State
so basically I think if Boise was in a Big 6 conference, they'd probably be like a 1-2 loss team each year looking for a bid into the BCS but not the title game, which is more or less what they do now so I'm ok with them being on the outside looking in
should be taken off that list since Boise beat them in two of those five years
I'm going to say it. Give Boise their shot if they win out. Yes they have played a terrible schedule but they are a good football team as they have proven over the last couple of years. give Moore and Petersen their shot. I do not want a rematch especially LSU-Alabama. If that happens there needs to be a playoff. If that happens it proves college basketball is the better sport since the champion is chosen through play on the floor.
That's going to be hard to do when there are a lot of 2 loss teams that are just better than Boise. I've never been on the Boise train because their schedule is just weak and they haven't beaten anyone good yet...that includes their Georgia win in the begining of the year.
case could strengthen if UGA wins out and beat LSU in SEC title game.
It would be a good test for them, and it would answer a lot of questions about Boise vs SEC elites, but Boise's BCS bubble was burst with the loss to TCU. They'll play in some Humantarian Bowl or something.
At this time, it's LSU - Bama, followed by LSU - Oregon, and LSU - Oklahoma.
Is there no way for a team like Clemson to climb past Alabama and/or Oregon? Assuming they win out they would have a damn fine resume.
Also, Wisconsin must be absolutely incensed at their inability to defend desperate lobs.
I haven't looked up Clemsons schedule but the only way they pass Oregon and Bama is if both those teams lose another game. Both Oregon and Bama's only loss is to the current clear cut #1 team in the country. Clemson lost to an unranked Georgia tech.
Could happen if they beat VT again, and get some help from the other BCS teams falling.
Oregon and Alabama look really good now. Oregon has to play USC, who they regularly beat at Eugene. And Alabama has two games left against GA Southern and Auburn.
I remember in 1998 when the BCS first started, I read an interview with our own Bo Schembechler in the Detroit News where he was asked his thoughts about the new system. He said the BCS was stupid and would only cause more problems. What happens if every team has 1 or more losses? What happens if there are more than 2 undefeated teams come bowl season? What happens if every team in the top 5 has 2 or more losses? What happens if 1 team is unbeaten and the rest have 1 or more losses?
In the 13 years since that interview, every single scenario Bo brought up ended up happening. Some of them happened multiple times.
I miss Bo
Well one thing is certain, if LSU wins out, there is no doubt who the NC is. That is a pretty impressive resume against some bigtime programs + the SEC.
it's top heavy with two great teams(LSU and Bama) and filled with mediocre teams.
Eerie game. Oklahoma State's defense reminded me of Michigan's last year in several critical moments, and their offense was also very similar in it's ability to fail in critical moments.
Sometimes I wonder if one of the reasons the crazy-good spread offense + half-assed defense formula doesn't work on the big stage (Oregon, Oklahoma State, Michigan, etc.) is because of the psychological pressure on the offense, especially the QB, involved in absolutely needing to score every time they touch the ball. Some of Weeden's throws looked exactly like Denard's last year when Michigan was in desperation mode.
AHA!!! HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2 team in the nation my ass.
Now if only indiana could pull off this upset
Figured it was in the bag. Ummm... Did this shit really happen? Who really thought OK State was the second best team in the country any way?
With this loss. I say LSU loses to Georgia in the SEC championship....Alabama/Oregon national championship matchup.
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