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OT: Ohio going to honor 2002 team and Tressel will take part

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2012/11/players_expect_warm_welco...

You're going to honor the guy that made this your last game of the season in the first place? Are they gonna bring Maurice back too? Whatever. They obviously still don't believe he did anything wrong since he gave the whole team a pep talk before leaving for Ann Arbor last year or something. Question.

Would you be okay with honoring the Fab Five? Me personally, I don't know if I would. Yes, they were a group of talent that will probably never be matched and were icons, but they helped to set the whole basketball program back.

"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:03 PM | Are they going to reenact (Score:5 Normal)
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Are they going to reenact clarrett being arrested as the halftime show? The band can play "Bad Boys".

When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:15 PM | Sponsored by Grey Goose? (Score:2 Funny)
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Priceless

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:01 PM | I don't know how to post (Score:1)
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I don't know how to post gifs.  Can someone put this up??

 

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/tresseloprah-sorry-it-took-so-long

“Any time Detroit scores more than 100 points and holds the other team below 100 points, they almost always win.” – Doug Collins
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November 20th, 2012 at 1:07 PM | As part of the halftime show (Score:1)
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As part of the halftime show some of the former players are going to compete in a Hatchet Toss.

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:10 PM | This is all a ploy by (Score:5 Normal)
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This is all a ploy by Columbus PD to arrest those guys who have outstanding warrants.  

'Try growing up in Texas a Michigan WOLVERINE'.

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:21 PM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
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“Any time Detroit scores more than 100 points and holds the other team below 100 points, they almost always win.” – Doug Collins
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November 20th, 2012 at 1:14 PM | I was also torn by the tribute (Score:-1 Normal)
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to Gary Moeller this past Saturday. It felt kind of odd to honor a guy who was fired for improprieties a couple of decades earlier. I like Gary, I like Michigan, it felt out of place to like them both at the same moment. Kind of like spending Thanksgiving with your divorced parents in the same room... awkward.

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:18 PM | Apples and Oranges (Score:5 Normal)
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Moeller's actions, while embarrassing to the University and ruining his credibility as being able to head the football program, didn't violate any NCAA rules or result in any kind of investigation or sanction against the football team.  Tressel knowingly violated NCAA rules and then lied about it in a lame attempt to cover his tracks, costing this years squad a chance at the BCS Title game.  There is NO comparison.

I had no issue standing up and giving Moeller and the 92 team an ovation.  Ohio trotting out the 2002 team with Tressel while the program is in the midst of the punishment he caused is a slap in the face to the NCAA, not that they'll do ANYTHING about it.

 

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November 20th, 2012 at 5:05 PM | I made the comparison (Score:-1 Overrated)
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so there is a comparison.  I know very well what each man did to embarrass their respective schools/ employers.  Tressel being honored is morally bankrupt and reprehensible, honoring a man you fired is just tacky and undignified.

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November 20th, 2012 at 5:42 PM | Moeller wasn't fired. (Score:2)
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Moeller resigned.  Bo tried to talk him out of it.

"You're fat and you're mine".  Bo to Dan Dierdorf.

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November 24th, 2012 at 5:06 AM | To be fair, Tressel resigned (Score:2 Normal)
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To be fair, Tressel resigned too.

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:16 PM | Time passed (Score:0)
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At least a lot of time had passed for the Gary tribute and if there was to be a Fab 5. This is 2 years removed. Typ[ical Buckeye behavior

" The team The team The team "

 

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:29 PM | Also, Moeller didn't cheat (Score:5 Normal)
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Also, Moeller didn't cheat and commit gross ethical violations. He got drunk and made an ass out of himself. Totally different.

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:16 PM | Time passed (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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At least a lot of time had passed for the Gary tribute and if there was to be a Fab 5. This is 2 years removed. Typ[ical Buckeye behavior

" The team The team The team "

 

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:17 PM | Coach Tress back in the Shoe? (Score:1)
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Coach Tress back in the Shoe? Watch out for arc lightning! (Sticklers for the rules and show-cause penalties need not worry, as no penalties will be levied.)

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:19 PM | Cooooooper!!!   Miss you, big (Score:4 Normal)
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Cooooooper!!!  

Miss you, big guy!  XOXOXO

(2000 Michigan-Ohio game on ESPN Classic right now.)

 

M'Dog

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:16 PM | Honest question (Score:2 Normal)
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I just realized the TERRIBLE discrepancy between your user and your sig.   Is your name Michigan Dog or My Dog?  

I only ask because I say everyone's name in my head so don't make me go crazy.  Or whatever. 

I love Greg Mattison

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November 20th, 2012 at 4:20 PM | Michigan Dog.  M-Dog for (Score:2)
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Michigan Dog.  M-Dog for short.  

The M-Dog name isn't to fool you by making no sense.  That's what the avatar of a Wolverine is for.  

 

 

M'Dog

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:22 PM | Pathetic. (Score:2 Normal)
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I could only make it through the first paragraph. So scary how these people think and the excuses they make. Lets go down there and ruin their fake season.

All in for some manball.

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:23 PM | Tressel is a disgrace to (Score:5 Normal)
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Tressel is a disgrace to college athletics, and Ohio HONORS him!

Homer? Who is Homer? My name is Wolverine Incognito.

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:27 PM | Ohio is a disgrace to (Score:5 Normal)
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Ohio is a disgrace to honor.

BEAT OHIO

life is like a box of chocolates... and you got the Whizzo Quality Assortment

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:25 PM | Everything you need to know (Score:4 Normal)
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Everything you need to know about Ohio State as an institution you can glean from their decision to honor jim tressel.

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:30 PM | In 2014 (Score:2 Normal)
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Tressel can come back to be honored for the 10 year anniversary of successfully having guard dogs sniff out the UofM team bus before the game.

We're not teaching them about sports, we're teaching them about life!

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:31 PM | What was their punishment (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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What was their punishment really? They upgraded their coaching staff... did they even lose a scholarship? The NCAA is making it very  hard to continue to be a fan.

or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:38 PM | 3 schollies a year for three (Score:2 Normal)
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3 schollies a year for three years. 

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:46 PM | What a joke. (Score:5 Normal)
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What a joke.

It ain't easy being cheesy

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:32 PM | I think about Woody Hayes and Gary Moeller (Score:2 Insightful)
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They brought Woody Hayes back over and over again to dot the eye and be honored at various football games, events and team conferences after his firing.  

Hayes was reprimanded multiple times during his career by Big Ten commissioner Wayne Duke and was publicly disgraced several times because of his sideline antics and violence against the press and players. 

But Hayes won a lot of games for Ohio, including Big Ten titles.

This is the lens through with Ohio fans see the the college football universe. It's not about how you win. It's about the win. Period. 

Michigan just honored Gary Moeller last weekend.  Michigan fans too see much more to Gary Moeller than what happened at a Southfield restaurant 18 years ago.

I'm not saying Tressel = Moeller even remoltely, but both coaches were disgraced.

At some point, the bad stuff is going to be subtracted from the good stuff, because average joe's want to remember the good stuff.  For Ohio, that's winning games and beating Michigan 6 times in a row (actually 7) - something that never happened before.  

Personally, I think it's too soon.  Tressel was fired and received a show cause. Maybe some Ohio seniors will have some mixed feelings about honoring the guy who destroyed their opportunity - all the more poignant if they beat Michigan and finish 12-0.  But this is Ohio's decision.

 

 

 

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:43 PM | As usual Markusr you've (Score:3 Normal)
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As usual Markusr you've nailed it.  Down here in Ohio they measure everything through the prism of how did you fare against Michigan and lets face it, even beloved Woody didnt enjoy success against us like Tressel did.  And he did it against the backdrop of the horrific (to them) Cooper years when we owned them like never before.

This has nothing to do with Show Causes, Probation, Bowl Bans, Scholly Reductions or anything else for that matter.  Tressell beat Michigan and beat them soundly and regularily and for that he is and will be universally loved.  How he did it is completely irrelevant -  because when it comes to beating "that school up north", for Buckeye fans, the ends definitely justify the means.

 

 

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November 20th, 2012 at 4:23 PM | I guess Cooper isn't coming (Score:2)
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I guess Cooper isn't coming back any time soon.

He's welcome anytime in the Big House though.

 

M'Dog

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:45 PM | Only at OSU.  What a joke. (Score:3 Normal)
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What do you expect from a school that named its athletic center after someone who punched a kid in the throat?

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:37 PM | Honor he who has none? (Score:2 Interesting)
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People get the leader they deserve.  From Tressel to Meyer.  They clearly weren't aiming to climb the integrity ladder.

I'll stick with the Lloyd Carr's and Brady Hoke's of the world.  

I can't help but think how Tressel's cheating effected the trajectory of Lloyd's career.  

BILG

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:38 PM | Michigan (Score:2 Funny)
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will actually be honoring Louis Bullock and Maurice Taylor in their own triblute at half time of the game as well.

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:38 PM | I think it says a lot more about Tressel than OSU. (Score:4 Normal)
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Is there a team anywhere that doesn't celebrate a tenth anniversary for a national championship season? The classy move would have been for Tressel to say, "I don't want to be a distraction, I'll do my celebrating with my wife and kids at home" or something to that effect. He could even host his own private celebration with the team or invite everyone over for wine coolers. Being the person he is, he obviously took the other route.

Go Blue!

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:05 PM | Agree (Score:2)
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The guy thinks a lot of himself and doesn't think he did anything wrong.  Just another reason to beat their ass Saturday.

"Better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football" -- John Heisman

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November 20th, 2012 at 1:49 PM | Would it be appropriate (Score:5 Normal)
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For Michigan to bring Coop in to celebrate his career? Maybe we could get a legends patch for #2-10-1

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:31 PM | Honoring tressel does not make sense---or does it? (Score:2 Normal)
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Honoring Tressel does seem to beg belief.  The NCAA was told that Tressel not only lied to the NCAA but that he was the only official who broke NCAA rules.  If so, then why would current officials honor a guy who single-handedly dishonored them?

On the other hand, if he was not the only guilty official, then this honor might make sense.  Maybe it's just another Ohio insurance policy to keep Tressel quiet and not release his emails or write his memoirs.  Remember, Ohio already allowed Tressel to rescind his resignation and retire, giving him hundreds of thousands in retirement and health benefits.  I wonder if he is demanding more.

 

michelin

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:03 PM | Wonder if the Columbus Tat (Score:2 Funny)
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Wonder if the Columbus Tat shops will be running a 2 for none special for all Ohio players to commemorate the 2002 season?

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:04 PM | Stay Classy, Ohio. (Score:2)
Lazer with a Z
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Joined: 07/13/2011
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Of course they are. Was there a doubt?

Strive to win. If you lose....win. 

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:20 PM | Gene Smith Rings In... (Score:4 Normal)
LSAClassOf2000
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"Some people will embrace it, some people will not. Some people will feel it's awkward, some people will not." - Gene Smith, quoted in the article

It was this caliber of incisive leadership that was integral to the problem in Columbus, of course, but I would say that it somehow follows that they would allow Jim Tressel to be self-aggrandizing just one more time.

 

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:22 PM | Buckeye fans: (Score:1)
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"They may have taken away some of your seasons, Pope Tressel, and they probably should've taken them all away, but it's still real to me, dammit!"

 

How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon

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November 20th, 2012 at 6:42 PM | Tressel==Holy Father? (Score:2 Normal)
BlueDragon
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Joined: 11/14/2010
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I'm feeling all kinds of confused and creeped out right now!

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:22 PM | I, for one, welcome the (Score:1)
08mms
Joined: 07/02/2009
MGoPoints: 1683

I, for one, welcome the opportunity to beat a zombie tressel team in the way which we were never able to when they were alive and kicking.

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:29 PM | Would you be okay with (Score:3 Normal)
saveferris
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Joined: 07/02/2009
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Would you be okay with honoring the Fab Five? Me personally, I don't know if I would. Yes, they were a group of talent that will probably never be matched and were icons, but they helped to set the whole basketball program back.

First, the only member of the Fab Five that was implicated in the Ed Martin affair was Chris Webber, so to suggest that all five of them set the whole basketball program back is patently unfair.

Second, I would be OK with honoring the Fab Five together if Webber were to make some kind of apology to the University for the damage he caused. Since Webber still seems to consider himself the exploited party and doesn't seem to believe himself guilty of anything, that won't happen anytime soon.

Third, I would be fine with the other four being honored this season, but I think those guys have already said as a group that wouldn't accept any such invitation that excludes Webber.

This isn't going to happen anytime soon, if ever.

 

"...what do you say, is it the new Bluesmobile or what?"

"Fix the cigarette lighter."

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November 20th, 2012 at 2:51 PM | Why are our fans such whiny (Score:2 Normal)
keep_em_honest
Joined: 10/18/2012
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Why are our fans such whiny bitches?  They're not "honoring" Tressel, they're honoring the 2002 national championship team who tressel happened to be a part of.  The NCAA didn't levy any type of disassociation with the program on Tressel like they did with Webber or Pryor.

You people act like he's dotting the "i" for Christ sakes.

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November 20th, 2012 at 3:59 PM | what a bunch of bull! (Score:2 Normal)
michelin
Joined: 09/22/2009
MGoPoints: 479

Tressel was not just part of that team; he was by far the most visible. 

The NCAA essentially dissociated him from re- employment at every NCAA institution.

The fact that Ohio does anything they please, which is not explicitly forbidden by the NCAA speaks volumes about the moral vacuum that still exists there.

 

If you are proud of that, then you prove our point.

 

No, maybe Tressel will not dot the "i" but

...he will forever dot your "lie".

michelin

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November 20th, 2012 at 7:07 PM | You're dumb. (Score:0 Flamebait)
buckeyejonross
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Joined: 07/27/2010
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You're dumb.

"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs

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November 20th, 2012 at 7:36 PM | Why are you pretending to be (Score:2)
RedGreene
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Joined: 07/02/2009
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Why are you pretending to be a Michigan fan you whiny bitch?  You can fool people on mlive but not on here.

Yes I got him a gift. He had a kidney stone. You piss a rock through your pecker, you deserve more than just a pat on the fucking back.

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November 20th, 2012 at 3:03 PM | On probation, so prepare to drop on Nov. 24th. (Score:0)
Michigan football
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Joined: 08/15/2010
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So the probation department decided to take urine samples on Nov 24, and all their clients (Tressel, the osu team, and even Urban who escaped Florida's probation) have to meet at the horseshoe.

It's all a part of their terms of probation.

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

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November 20th, 2012 at 3:07 PM | Another good reason why I hope we fuck (Score:1)
WingsNWolverines
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Joined: 04/27/2011
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them up bad on Saturday. A lot of talent from that team did great in the NFL! Not...

We hate Michigan State. We don't like Penn State too. We don't care for Minnesota, Wisconsin or Notre Dame but we all hate O-S-U.

Michigan Blue 2008 block M hockey jersey still for sale for 50.00. FREE S/H

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November 20th, 2012 at 3:07 PM | Why not invite Clarette too? (Score:2 Normal)
profitgoblue
Joined: 09/01/2009
MGoPoints: 19415

Why not invite Clarette too? Seems appropriate. Webber can't get anywhere near Crisler but Tressel is being invited back. What a joke.

Disgruntled former moderator.  I got a lot of problems with you people!

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