ok this could go on and on, yes detroit is segregated and its terrible. But no one is going around talking about how AMAZING Detroit is from hanging out around Comerica Park, and Campus Martius.
OT- No Chicago 2016 Olympics
BCSBlue: This comment is just all kinds of asinine/over-generalized/irrelevant. Should we rip on stereotypical douchebags from NYC or Detroit in response? And re: the expressway, are you referring to...? 290? The one with Cabrini Green NORTH of it? and Bridgeport SOUTH of it? Or....90/94, the one with Bucktown, the West Loop, Bridgeport, Wicker Park, etc WEST of it? Just curious.
And the kinds of guys you just mentioned that "go up and down Lincoln Avenue" are, uhh, the same kind of guys that went to the bars on South U, Main Street, et al at U of M, just a year or two older. To act like they aren't traipsing about Manhattan as well is humorous.
It's fine you don't like Chicago. But the stereotypical stuff is just strawman-type stuff. I am assuming you're better than that, man.
From: American Pharaoh: Mayor Mayor Richard J. Daley - His Battle for Chicago and the Nation By Adam Cohen, Elizabeth Taylor
"Daley's modern Chicago was built, however on an unstated foundation: commitment to racial segregation. He preserved the city's white neighborhoods and business district by builing racial separation into the very concrete of the city. New developments-housing,highways, and schools- were built where they would serve as a barrier between white nieghborhoods and the black ghetto. ...Daley was also responsible for the final touch: routing the Dan Ryan Expressway to follow the neighborhood's traditional racial boudry."
Good read, check it out, the author goes on to say how this basically saved Chicago. Still I don't think its the right thing to do.
I will check it out- seriously.
Haters will hate.
...so very,very TRUE!
Since I can't find the link to Brian's version, here is a substitute:
Thank you for your most thoughtful suggestion regarding our fair city of Chicago. You're idea of a "neg bang" is most intriguing.
While we have given much consideration as to how our city may be "fucked", you are no doubt aware that Chicago is operating under a very strained budget. Accordingly, despite our best efforts and attempts to brainstorm different cost-effective methods of being fucked, it does not appear to be financially feasible at this time. Union support was also very difficult to come by. Perhaps if the city had won it's Olympic bid, we would be having a very different discussion about all the many ways that Chicago could be fucked.
The City of Chicago Department of Recreation
....colored rings....bearz.....wait what? Did you say colored rings?!
As another former Chicagoan of 10 years, disappointed for the excitement that won't follow. But seriously, that town is so, so, so corrupt, I have a sense that this is some sort of karma coming back. The Obamas and Oprah failing in their plea is kind of funny.
Bummer, I wanted to see how corrupt Chicago could be on a world stage.
It was very surprising to finish dead last of the four cities. Especially given all of good press and general optimism of those working on the bid who have constant communication with the IOC.
The bid process is extremely political and the IOC is made up 40% of Europeans, so I won't be surprised if Madrid gets it. Personally, I'd like to see Rio.
*A number of client service firms, including mine, loaned staff pro bono to Chicago 2016. I worked on many of the finance models, including ticketing. I had started saving for my opening ceremony tickets, but maybe now I'll buy a house (yes, they are that expensive).
(1) Nice work. Not only is the bid process political, but the voting process is tricky. I honestly think if Chicago had edged out Tokyo for third, they would very likely be in the final 2 right now. Alas.
(2) Curious - how much would opening ceremony tix have been?
$800 - $1600 each. Was going to take my family (wife, both sets of parents, any kids old enough at that point). So let's say cheap seats for 8 = $6400. The good seats would have been $12800. Figured it would be a once in a lifetime experience.
Was really curious. Was thinking of going to as many events as I could afford as well.
Most Olympic only events (e.g. archery, track and field) were very reasonable. Some even as cheap as $25. Average ticket price for non-premium (premium = baskteball, soccer, swimming, other medal rounds) events were $55. Premium events started around $75 (this was preliminary swimming events). Men's basketball finals were the most expensive event ticket (no surprise) at around $450 each.
I'm a new resident of Chicago so I was really looking forward to this as a confirmation that I moved to the right city. Guess I'll just have to uproot myself and move to Rio!
Hmm, thought this might happen...but now without Chicago, the options are kind of funny. Madrid? Really, right after London? That seems totally fair. Tokyo? Only one game after Beijing? I wouldn't actually mind Tokyo, only because it's an amazing city and it would be endlessly entertaining watching them try to find more space in that city.
As for Rio, yes they probably do deserve it, but have a fun time with crime and infrastructure. And also making sure the media doesn't explore all those really dark spots they'll try to sweep under the rug. They don't quite have the experience the Chinese do in controlling the media.
it is FAR safer to walk alone in Mumbai than in Chicago. Please refrain from commenting on things you don't know a damn thing about.
Having said that, I fervently hope Mumbai nver actually gets the Olympics...the politicians there are about 1000 times more corrupt than in Chicago.
and depends on where you are. There are some places in Chicago I wouldn't feel comfortable walking around with an armed escort during the day and I'm sure that the same could be said of any major metropolitan city.
But with that being said I feel completely safe walking around downtown, in Lincoln Park, etc by myself at night.
There was the roving bands of violent robbers who beat the crap out of guys walking alone at night in Lincoln Park this summer.
I must be scary or something?
Seriously MOST (keep in mind that most is the key word here) things that happen to people in public places that are generally safe is because they are not paying attention to their surroundings.
...cops murdered over a thousand people in Rio last year. Point? Same as Bouje- I have ended up not getting beaten up and mugged after this summer! Whew!
The crime rate in Mumbai is 182.6 out of every 100,000 people, compared to 18 in Chicago. So, in spite of how safe you might have felt there... you're simply not right.
Seriously? The crime rate in Chicago is 2.7 times that of the National average...
has a higher crime rate than the national average? The point is that developing countries generally have a higher crime rate than developed countries.
Wow big cities have a higher crime rate than smaller cities... HUH...
The more you know!
There were 2,238,480 assaults in the US as compared to 236,313 in India in the last year.
Now being a serious statistician, unlike you I won't quote numbers without context and run. These numbers only reflect the *reported* crimes. Given the fact that the police here in the US are infinitely more likely to take complaints more seriously, its obvious why the US is the worst rank here.
Um here is the one for Murder per Capita:
USA is #24
India is #24
And also just assaults is a horrible measure because larger countries will obviously have more assaults than smaller countries hence why you should do per capita:
Where the US is still not very good @#6 (UK is #8)
You could also look at kidnappings or rapes per capita but no you chose to go with a personal attack on me which I'm sure will get you positive points.
The point is you looked at one statistic instead of looking at crime overall.
but you still haven't said anything about the actual post.
You can bag on me when I bring up facts but instead you ignore what I bring up and just say that "DUH INDIA IS BIGGER THAN THE US"
That's one country and it is debatable as to whether or not India is a developed country or not.
The stat from Wikipedia was sourced to a government document which provides the same information. Which I checked out before posting it here.
India has the most murders of any country in the world, so even if Chicago is that much worse than the national average it's still not as bad as India.
You are using non-normalized statistics here. If you have a billion people there will be more murders than if you have 300 million people.
Am I getting though?
One can quickly look up the visas applied for to know what the resident of that country think. I am saying randomly picking a city out of you ass and saying "would you rather have it here than Chicago" is not a valid argument.
Murder Statistics PER CAPITA (which is a normalized statistic)
I screwed up and posted that they were both #24 but alas India is @26
# 24 United States: 0.042802 per 1,000 people
# 25 Armenia: 0.0425746 per 1,000 people
# 26 India: 0.0344083 per 1,000 people
I never had any safety issues in the sic years i lived in Chicago. Hell, I even closed down both Jimbo's and the BullPen Bar during Sox games and felt safe.
In any major city, just stay alert and know where not to go. In Chicago, the vast majority of neighborhoods are safe. And when those 'hoods aren't like the Lincoln Park example below, those are more an isolated era than indicative of daily life in L.P.
Also: Chicago is an amazing city.
I think that Chicago is the best big city in the whole USofA.
We have something for everyone. With all of the parks and Lake Michigan on it's Eastern shore there really is something for everyone in the Windy City.
including a lot of overweight people wearing jeans and bright white tennis shoes. And I say this lovingly as a former Chicagoan and Midwesterner.
Please don't confuse the 'burbs and the tourists with the city inhabitants.
I really wanted the games in Chicago, but I would have bet large amounts of money on Rio because the games have never been held in S. America.
Oh, and Chicago is clearly an Olympic-caliber city. The capital of the Midwest.
it is Rio.
See what happens when Al Capone isn't running things anymore?
When the world champion 100 meter sprinter wakes up in Rio in a strange hotel-room in a bathtub full of ice, missing a kidney, it will be too late to re-think this.
Wow, as someone who was born and raised in Rio, this really offends me. Yes, the crime rate in Rio is very high. But you don't think that the city will place the security of the athletes and the tourists as the highest priority?
Rio will do a great job with the World Cup in 2014 and with the Olympics in 2016.
It's called a joke. People tend to tell them on message boards.
For the record: I'm sure that most tourists to Brazil return with their kidneys intact.
In other people's bodies.
My bad. I guess that was a backlash against all the anti-Rio sentiment going on.
Seriously though, Rio is a great city and I encourage everybody to go in 7 years.
Being a fellow Carioca I cosign.
How are those projects and that budget coming for the World Cup? That's going well. Oh wait.
honestly, don't know. Why do you imply that it's going badly?
Note: I'm operating under the assumption that, for any organization or person, the best single predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
"The problem is, it didn't quite do that. Winning the 2007 Pan American Games was considered a big, if sometimes chaotic, success for Rio. To triumph over rival bidder San Antonio, officials used the same argument — that this was Rio's turn. To back that up, they promised to transform the city with a new ring road system, something called a "via light" railway (presumably a light railway), a new state highway and 54 km of new metro lines.
But none of the roads, nary a kilometer of metro line, were built. Authorities also promised to clean up the Guanabara Bay, the fetid body of water whose smell assails visitors driving into town from the international airport. Although hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent, the stench persists and the bay remains a stinking eyesore. "
I realize that is in regard to the Pan Am games, but my understanding is that construction hasn't started on many of the projects/stadia for the 2014 games yet, and there are concerns re: funding, the budgeting, and the infrastructure. Perhaps I'm misinformed, but I don't believe so. If so, I'd be open to changing my opinion if you can link to a couple articles or something. They couldn't handle the projects of the Pan Am games. It's not that the Pan Am games were terrible or anything, but they didn't do what they said they'd do, etc, and that's kind of my point. Credibility matters.
76% of Rio residents have gonorrhea