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OT - NHL Awards live on Versus - Lidstrom wins Norris for 7th time

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:15 PM
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OT - NHL Awards live on Versus - Lidstrom wins Norris for 7th time

Congratulations!

 

Bobby Orr had 8.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:17 PM
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I was in the process of

I was in the process of making a thread.. Lidstrom is such an inspiration to all young hockey players and people everywhere. 

Also, that guy who said he wants to be in jail with Lidstrom was funny / creepy..

What other awards have been awarded?

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:23 PM
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He's an absolute class act.

He's an absolute class act. One of the best defensemen who ever lived. Can't wait to see his sweater hanging up in the Joe (or new Red Wings arena) someday

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:23 PM
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Congrats to Nick

I know he probably will be done after next season, so let's hope every home game the fans give him the proper send off.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:24 PM
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Thankfully not retired

I would have been devastated if Lidstrom retired right now when he still has so much ability.

Really impressive that he keeps playing at such a high level

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:25 PM
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Fantastic!

How about making it eight Norris Trophies and five Cups in 2012?

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:30 PM
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Lidstrom is taken for granted by so many Red Wings fans and hockey fans in general. Just a class act that quietly does his job.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:40 PM
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I dont believe this is

I dont believe this is remotely true.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:46 PM
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If that's directed at the

If that's directed at the "class act that quietly does his job," then this wins the award for dumbest post ever.

If it's directed at the "He's taken for granted," it could be true. Detroit doesn't take him for granted, but I think a lot of other people do.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:48 PM
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Exactly. That's what I mean. He has been here so long and consistently produces year in and year out that it's more of a spoiled thing than a taken for granted thing, I guess.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:51 PM
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It was directed at the not

It was directed at the not appreciated comment.  In my many many years as a Wings fan, i've yet to think somone is taking him for granted.  I personally am freaked the fck out about how we're gonna even TRY to replace him...

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:44 PM
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Dissagree...

I think the vast majority of hockey fans that like the sport enough to watch a game outside their home market do appreciate Lidstrom.  I think he's generally recognized as 1) the best defenseman in a generation, and 2)a  top 15 player all time.  Admittedly his due  recognition in Detroit only came after he ws captain for a couple of years, but I think the appreciation is there.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:54 PM
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I can't think of 14 players

I can't think of 14 players better than Lidstrom.  Maybe I could think of 9.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 8:16 PM
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Top 10 for sure in my

Top 10 for sure in my book. 

removes red colored glasses.  He's easily the best European of all time, to say the least. 

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June 22nd, 2011 at 8:32 PM
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I would sat top 5 defenseman to ever play the game

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June 22nd, 2011 at 9:39 PM
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The only d-man greater than

The only d-man greater than Lidstrom is Bobby Orr. He is firmly in the top 10 IMO and the best European for sure.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:55 PM
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It's easy to be overshadowed

It's easy to be overshadowed when Stevie Y was still here.  When Stevie played, he WAS the Wings.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 8:03 PM
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Congrats to Lidstrom!

IIRC The Captain said that Lidstrom was their best player.

I've been very happy to see them play for the Red Wings.  It's a special thing to have long careers with one team.

One more Cup (at least) before Lidstrom retires, plz!

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June 22nd, 2011 at 8:15 PM
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He cleaned up on Norris

He cleaned up on Norris trophies before Stevie Y retired and wore the A for years and was already being called one of the greatest D-Men of his time.  He won the Conn Smythe back in 02 as well.  He's been appreciated for a long time.  I'd agree if you said he wasn't really appreciated until he started winning Norris trophies but he was a pretty young player then and we had a bunch of veteran d-men for a while. 

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June 22nd, 2011 at 8:39 PM
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I can't begin to imagine

how epically awesome you need to be to win a trophy named after Chuck. To win it 7 times (including at 40 years old) they starting to consider naming a trophy after you.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:30 PM
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I'm in Vegas for the awards

I'm in Vegas for the awards now! Of course, I didn't get to go to the actual ceremony and wear a tux or anything, but still cool.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:37 PM
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BizNasty

Should be required to meet up with Paul Bissonnette that dude is a beauty!!!

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:40 PM
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Best defenseman in history.

Stick around a few more years to make it 9 times winning the Norris.

What a great guy to lead the team.  I feel so spoiled being a wings fan.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:42 PM
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I can't watch them, but did

I can't watch them, but did the Selke or Lady Byng get announced yet? Seems like Datsyuk might not be able to win the Selke, and I'm not sure about Lidstrom's chances with Lady Byng (which is the worst name for a trophy ever)

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:43 PM
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Selke

Selke went to Ryan Kesler

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:43 PM
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Selke went to Kesler.

Selke went to Kesler.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 10:00 AM
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Datsyuk really doesn't want

Datsyuk really doesn't want to win the Lady Byng any more.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:43 PM
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Sucks that Datsyuk was out

Sucks that Datsyuk was out for so long or else he probably would have won the Selke. I have no argument against Kesler winning it though.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:53 PM
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they should just have have an

they should just have have an award for "greatest most complete player ever award," Called the Datsyuk

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June 22nd, 2011 at 8:03 PM
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That's what the Selke

That's what the Selke is...

Kesler and Toews are still very good offensive players.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 8:38 PM
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That's he's a Buckeye is a

That's he's a Buckeye is a good enough argument for me. 

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June 22nd, 2011 at 7:57 PM
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Does this

make Lidstrom the oldest person to win the Norris?  I'd assume so, but if anybody has more presice data, it would be welcome.  Also, is that a distinction he already had, or did he slip past someone else in the last two years?

Thanks!

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June 22nd, 2011 at 8:20 PM
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coffey doesnt belong in the

coffey doesnt belong in the same sentence with orr and lidstrom.  he was a purely offensive defenseman who was often a liability on the back end.  also, he played with gretzky, lemieux, and yzerman/fedorov during the prime of his career.  you put a guy like mike green into coffey's spot on those teams, and i dont think you'd see much of a drop off.

 

ray bourque, eddie shore, doug harvey, red kelly, chris chelios, and denis potvin are all higher on the list than coffey.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 8:53 PM
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Coffee had an extra gear.  He

Coffee had an extra gear.  He wasn't great in his own zone but he's an underrated defensemen.  I don't think you'll see another player like Coffey ever again.  And so what if he played with great players? What great players haven't had talent around them? Gretzky played with Messier and Kurri.  Lemieux played with Francis and Jagr, Sakic had Roy and Forsberg.  I'm too young to have watched him in person but from the footage I've seen, there won't be another player like him again.  Talent wise, a player like that will exist and system wise, the NHL is a different league now. 

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June 23rd, 2011 at 10:04 AM
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People have made similar

People have made similar complaints about Orr: great offensive defenseman; changed how defenders play the game; "solid..." defender is what some have said. Unfortunately I was too young to watch Coffey, but lots of good players get to play with other good players. Can't disqualify him for having talented teammates.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 8:04 PM
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All homerism aside, Yzerman

All homerism aside, Yzerman should have won the GM award.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 8:05 PM
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Jay Mohr

Jay Mohr just pronounced Yzerman 'whyzerman', and it wasn't a joke.  Probably a teleprompter reading goof, but c'mon!

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June 22nd, 2011 at 8:09 PM
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Wait a minute.. Stevie Y

Wait a minute.. Stevie Y didn't win?! That's straight up blasphemy. No one did a better job, especially in his first season. Who won it?

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June 22nd, 2011 at 8:12 PM
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Mike Gillis from Vancouver.

Mike Gillis from Vancouver. It really shouldn't have even been close.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 8:21 PM
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i can understand gillis

i can understand gillis winning the award.  vancouver had a beast of a year, and assembling the mass of talent that they had, and doing as well as they did, despite the injuries they faced, was amazing.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 9:17 PM
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Easily the player I hate the

Easily the player I hate the most in the league currently.  Always picking on smaller guys like Pavs but doesn't really have the nuts to stand up to guys his own size. 

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June 22nd, 2011 at 9:38 PM
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Sedins can't win the big

Sedins can't win the big one.'

Glad to see Timmy win another Vezina. Well deserved. Hope he goes for 3 next year.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 9:03 PM
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Congrats to Nick

Sometimes as fans we not only take Nick, but the Wings for granted. They have been the model of consistency for the last 20 years.  It will be interesting to see what Ken Holland does, with the cap money he has. Free agent pickings are pretty slim this year.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 9:18 PM
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Not at defense.  We don't

Not at defense.  We don't need to shake too much up offensively.  Dumping Hudler would be step one.  Nothing major though. 

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June 22nd, 2011 at 9:15 PM
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Woo Lidstrom!

My favorite player! 

P.S.  Award person, it is NOT pronounced Lindstrom!

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June 22nd, 2011 at 9:26 PM
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Dierks Bentley is singing to a snoozing crowd. Total buzzkill.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 9:30 PM
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Long, long, ago...

Lidstrom and Vlad as rookies in '91.  Thought it was a cool pic given tonight's milestone and puts a little perspective on how long he's been around.

 

 Nicklas Lidstrom signs for 20th season  with Red Wings

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June 22nd, 2011 at 10:06 PM
#48
skunk bear
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Joined: 03/09/2010
MGoPoints: 1971
Konstantinov

Konstantinov had the talent to win the Norris.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 11:03 PM
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Hlprn302
Joined: 12/31/2010
MGoPoints: 250
That picture breaks my heart

Vlad was my favorite player. He's come so far and we're all proud, but damn...

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June 23rd, 2011 at 3:47 AM
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pasadenablue
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same here....

such a talented and vibrant person whose career was cut short so cruelly and abruptly.  it just makes you think what could've been, had vladdy not been in the car crash, and had jiri fischer not suffered from heart problems.  the wings would've probably won at least one more cup in the past decade, probably more.

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June 22nd, 2011 at 11:58 PM
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wresler120
Joined: 10/17/2010
MGoPoints: 1407
Lidstrom is the man!!

Another piece of hardware to add to his collection. The man gets better with age.

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