Scarlatina

July 28th, 2015 at 2:58 PM ^

The report a few months ago was that Brady refused to turn in his phone as evidence to the 3rd party investigator, Tom Wells (?). But according to the NFL, Tom Brady purposefully DESTROYED his phone AFTER being asked turn it in, which is their basis for him not co-operating/impeding the investigation.

CoachBP6

July 28th, 2015 at 2:58 PM ^

No way Brady can get this thing to and through court before the season starts. If he can, I hope he does. I'm happy either way as I love Tom Brady but hate the patriots.

JClay

July 28th, 2015 at 3:23 PM ^

You don't get it sped up. It's called an injunction. You go in front of a judge and make the point that there is no way to undo the punishment -- i.e. Brady cannot miss the first four games and then retroactively go back and play in them if he wins the case -- and if the judge agrees, he/she would enter an order that the NFL isn't allowed to carry out the suspension until the case is decided. So if the case ended 6 games into the season and Brady lost, he'd then serve his suspension from game 7-10.

This is very common in civil cases.

umumum

July 28th, 2015 at 4:22 PM ^

There are a number of criteria used in an injunctive hearing, irreparable harm being just one. Probably the most significant other factor is that Brady will have to demonstrate a substantial "likelihood of success on the merits" .

I suspect the irreparable harm hurdle will be easier for Brady to meet than the latter.

bluebyyou

July 28th, 2015 at 3:11 PM ^

Guess that is the same as child abuse and domestic violence.  They are saying he destroyed his phone shortly before he met with Wells.

Ditching the phone doesn't make me happy.

Mocha Cub

July 28th, 2015 at 3:02 PM ^

What a f*ckin joke

So I guess when there is no video footage of you ACTUALLY doing something illegal and harmful to others you get a stiffer initial penalty. Makes perfect sense...

ChuckieWoodson

July 28th, 2015 at 4:07 PM ^

though - he's just trying to create the illusion that he actually gave Tom a legit chance to appeal.  Eliminating or reducing the GOAT's 4 game suspension would've considerably, in his mind, eroded his own legitimacy. 

He's a dumbass but alas, those in power tend to and try to stay in power for as long as they can.

Blueblood2991

July 28th, 2015 at 3:07 PM ^

What an asshat Goodell is.  Today he also reduced Le'veon Bell's suspension to 2 games.  I couldn't care less about players smoking weed, but way to set an example for the kids.  Possibly taking air out of a football is far more severe than doing drugs.  And ya know...hitting women.

Scarlatina

July 29th, 2015 at 2:49 AM ^

Brady purposefully destroyed it after they asked him to submit it as evidence to the investigator. I can understand refusing to hand it in because of privacy, but to completely destroy it is another level. Very few innocent men while go that far to get rid of "evidence." So while it doesn't prove Brady's guilt, it doesn't help him very much either...

Ronnie Kaye

July 28th, 2015 at 3:27 PM ^

Kid A: "Wanna see if we can score a dimebag tonight?"

Kid B: "Nah, man. That's severe stuff, I hear. Not somethin to mess with."

Kid A: "Bro, it's only a two-game in The Shield. Goodell reduced that suspension he gave to Bell, didn't you hear?. Deflating balls is worse!"

Kid B: "Yeah? Fuck it then, let's toke!"

 

 

Kenny Loggins

July 28th, 2015 at 3:10 PM ^

if it's true he destroyed his phone, then it's obvious he felt he was in the wrong. i do believe a lot of QBs mess with the balls (a lot have come out and said they do), which isn't a big deal in my mind. it's the cover up that looks really bad.

Moe

July 28th, 2015 at 3:17 PM ^

Where domestic abuse and "being generally aware" about "more likely than not" deflating a football is the exact same punishment.  

the_benjy_vortex

July 28th, 2015 at 3:18 PM ^

As a life long Jets fan, I'm torn. I love Brady but hate the team he plays for with the passion of a billion suns. I love that those cheating fuckers are getting punished but don't think they cheated this time.   Part of me feels the NFL is piling on here due to the Pats' history of questionable actions/tactics. 

kgh10

July 28th, 2015 at 3:26 PM ^

How has he been a pompous ass? The only pompous asses I saw during this entire thing were self righteous fans and former players talking about "integrity" and calling for Brady to get the Pete Rose treatment and his SBs be taken away.

Esterhaus

July 28th, 2015 at 3:42 PM ^

 

Would not look favorably on a person who spoiled evidence.  And the federal judiciary is really good at ferreting out spoilation. It appears that Brady is stuck with the four-game suspension. Lesson:  a coverup attempt is punished more fiercely than the underlying infraction.

kawter

July 28th, 2015 at 3:23 PM ^

Guilty or not... Are you really handing your smartphone over to an independent investigator to do with as they please??? Really? Common

State Street

July 28th, 2015 at 6:21 PM ^

Someone cannot read. The NFL offer to Brady was that he hand over his phone TO HIS LAWYER, who would select the relevant texts and emails and forward them on the NFL.  That still wasn't good enough for Brady.  Those standing behind "privacy" in defending him are insane.  He wasn't being asked to walk into Goddell's office and hand him his iPhone with unfettered access to Gisele's nudes.

UMgradMSUdad

July 29th, 2015 at 12:41 AM ^

We don't know what else is on that phone, though.  Maybe he was cheating on his wife or there's evidence of any number of other activities that could either be embarrassing, illegal, or provide fodder for other civil proceedings or misinterpretations. Once he turns the phone over, no matter who he gives it to, it's no longer under his control.

GoBlueRandy

July 28th, 2015 at 3:24 PM ^

Wouldn't Brady's texts to the ball boys be on the ball boys phones as well? I'll admit, destroying a phone doesn't look great but they would still have the info they need.



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grumbler

July 28th, 2015 at 7:00 PM ^

Yes, they had all the texts of the equipment guys, and there was nothing in those texts to implicate Brady.  Brady's reps offered the list of all the calls Brady had made to anyone associated with the NFL, so the investigators could have gotten the texts from the recipients, but Goodell wasn't interested.

You are right that the destruction of the phone looks bad, but it also looks bad for Goodell to use the destruction of the phone as the basis for the four game suspension, when the destruction hadn't happened when the suspension was handed down.

Legally, I don't think that the destruction of the phone matters.  If the suspension is because Brady wouldn't turn it over, then it's because he wouldn't turn it over, not that he destroyed it.  If the suspension is due to Brady tampering with the balls, then Goodell has to show that he more than likely did, and the Wells report falls far short of that.  In neither of those cases does the destruction of the phone matter.

DMill2782

July 28th, 2015 at 3:42 PM ^

gave Tom four games because the only thing he could compare PSI to was using steroids. That's definitely going to hold up in court. PSI = Steroids. Yeah. Ok. 

Perkis-Size Me

July 28th, 2015 at 3:43 PM ^

I'd like to feel bad for him but I don't. He's a multi millionaire and gets to go home every night and bang one of the hottest women on the planet. There are countless people in this country with far worse problems than what he's got. Like wondering where their next meal will come from, for instance.

Great that he's a Michigan alum and everything, but I honestly don't feel that bad for him.

Go ahead and neg away.



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LS And Play

July 28th, 2015 at 4:14 PM ^

Straw man argument. No one ever argued that there aren't people with far worse problems than Tom Brady. This is a Michigan blog and one the school's most famous football alumni just had a highly dubious suspension upheld. Saying the suspension is unfair has nothing to do with anything you said. 

Gentleman Squirrels

July 28th, 2015 at 4:15 PM ^

The thing is, it's not about feeling bad about about Brady. Brady is going to be fine either way. Honestly, he could serve his suspension, come back and still win his games and vie for another Super Bowl. That's how little it matters. It matters that the asshat Goodell is handing out a 4 game suspension for this bullshit (with very little proof and circumstantial evidence at best) when he gave the same suspension and reduced it for people using drugs and beating women. Not to mention the fact that the rulebook quite explicitly states that the fine for deflating balls is $25,000. I mean, why have a rulebook if you're just going to throw it out when it matters. Suspending someone 4 games for "uncooperation" is absolute garbage. All of this would hold true even if the person being judged was an OSU grad. We probably won't be defending the guy as much, but regardless Goodell would still be an asshat and this entire debacle would be  just as ridiculous. 

myblueheaven

July 28th, 2015 at 3:44 PM ^

I didn't put it past Brady to do what the NFL alleges. He's competitive and on his last leg with a legit shot at the elusive trophy. Not to mention there's a profound history of bending and breaking NFL regulations in New England. It's cultural. Brady just needs to let this go and in week 4 sling that ball like it's the wrath of God.