OT-NFL Replacement Refs

Submitted by weasel3216 on

 

Ok i have had enough of teh replacement refs to last a lifetime.  If anyone else watched the end of the Packers-Seahawk game you know what i am talking about.

For one, there was a obvious offensive PI that was called defensive PI against the Packers.  This keeps the Seahawk drive alive.  Then the last play of the game was hailmary for Seattle, first it was the most obvious offensive PI i have seen, Tate obviously pushed Shields down.  No call on this.  Then Jennings intercepts the ball and Tate wrestles the ball away from Jennings on the ground.  Replay clearly shows that Jennings had possession and Tate pulled it away on the ground.  To top it all off, one ref signaled touchdown while the other signaled touchback as though Shields intercepted the ball in the end zone.

Fucking bullshit calls just cost the Packers a game.  NFL pay the refs to avoid this embarrassment that we are currently calling the NFL.

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M-Wolverine

September 25th, 2012 at 11:12 AM ^

But when it's four calls in a row, it starts getting really difficult to overcome.

Besides, I never understood that argument. They DID do enough to win if the refs can get any one of 4 horrendous calls accurate. Why should they have to compensate for someone else's incompetence? At least it should be equally incompetent.

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Jmilan

September 25th, 2012 at 11:25 AM ^

I only watched part of the game, but I did hear that the Packers offense was terrible. None the less I feel bad for these officials they really for thrown into the fire. It also doesn't help them out because the media since the first regular season game has been making it into this huge deal and overhyping it (surprise). They aren't on the same level as the regular refs but they are doing everything they can and no one should be criticizing them you wouldn't like someone blowing up your every mistake at work on national television.

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M-Wolverine

September 25th, 2012 at 11:35 AM ^

Because all everyone does is knock coaches and players, who are only kinda scholarship getting paid, for the job they do.  I'm sure you won't knock Denard or Borges for last Saturday just because their job was on national television.

They took the gig, it's not even their regular job, and they crossed a negotiating line to do it. That's their right, but they're taking on the possible heat when they take the salary. And while the media has love wringing their hands about it, most aren't expecting them to get things right that are impossibly intricate...just gets things that even layman on the couch could get right (not the stuff they THINK they could get right, but really simple rules). You don't have to have all the fine points of the tuck rule down pat, but at least know possession and offensive pass interference.

And yeah, the Packers offense was bad...but the Seahawks defense is pretty good too (hard to imagine, but it certainly seems to be the case).

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blacknblue

September 25th, 2012 at 11:24 AM ^

Touchdown call was close enough to be called touchdown on the field. Green Bay defensive back got his hands on the ball first but control of the ball can't be granted until the player is on the ground, this why if a player catches a ball but gets it knocked out before coming to the ground it is an incomplete pass. By the time they reached the ground it does look like Golden Tate has both arms around the ball, he at least has enough control of the ball when they land to continue to wrestle for it. People keep saying what a horrible call that was because of replacement refs, but not only could I see seasoned refs making that same call, I'm not entirely sure it was the wrong call.

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blacknblue

September 25th, 2012 at 1:44 PM ^

They were fighting for the ball. Eventually Golden Tate came up with the ball. There's a chance that Tate had more if the other players arm than the ball, but I can clearly understand why a ref would call it a touchdown and why a review wouldn't overrule it.

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vnperk

September 25th, 2012 at 4:29 PM ^

What were you watching? I'm not a fan of either team (Lions fan), but where can you even remotely see "Golden Tate coming up with the ball"? All he did was wrap his arms around Jennings and when he landed on the ground he pretty much had one hand touching the ball and that was it.

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blacknblue

September 25th, 2012 at 5:12 PM ^

At the end of the play when both players finally stopped fighting for the ball Tate comes up with it. I'm trying to recall that from memory because none of the replays go that far. But I'm like 95% sure they show Tate come out of the scrum with the ball in his hands.

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mtxgoblue

September 25th, 2012 at 12:36 PM ^

Think South Park will say something about this tomorrow? Here's the mini-preview of tomorrow's episode

"As a concerned parent, Randy radically changes the way football is played at South Park Elementary. The new version of the game quickly becomes the nation’s most popular sport.  One gifted student emerges as a star athlete in sarcastaball."

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AngryAlum

September 25th, 2012 at 12:51 PM ^

You gotta love ol "Cheat to Win" Pete Carroll.  Despite overwhelming popular opinion backed up by clear video evidence he's like (I think it was the right call).  The man truly has no honor.

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MaizeAndBlueWahoo

September 25th, 2012 at 2:15 PM ^

I gotta be honest: I would have a much easier time working up OUTRAGE if it were most any other team besides the Packers getting screwed.  I fully agree that the NFL needs to open the pocketbooks and hire full-time referees and stop being so goddam stupid about this, but .... it's the Packers, so fuck 'em.  As if they're the first team in the NFC North to get screwed by the refs.  It probably never happened to them before so their fans don't know what it's like.

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bighouseinmate

September 25th, 2012 at 2:58 PM ^

....was during that last Seattle drive that ultimately awarded Seattle the game win, I think people are forgetting earlier in the 4th quarter and GB getting a gift.

At around 11:30 or so left in the game, GB was facing a 3rd and 2 or 3 from around midfield. Rodgers pass was off, but the officials called PI on Seattle when it was clear in the replays that the Seattle defender never touched the GB receiver past the 5 yard from scrimmage mark. Never held.

If no PI had been called, GB likely would have punted the ball, and no GB TD would have resulted.

In the larger context of the entire game, that call was just another call. But place that drive, and that call, in the final drive of the game, and Seattle would have just as much to bitch, moan, and complain about, regarding the refs "giving" the game to GB.

Think about this for a minute; If no PI call on that play, no TD. Given GB's ineptitude during the entire game on offense, likely maybe only another FG would be added. That Seattle likely would have answered, as they got into FG range in their second to last drive. Given that, Seattle likely would have won the game anyways, but in a much cleaner fashion.

So, I have no sympathy for GB, or their players, or their fans, complaining about the officials awarding the game to Seattle for the mockery of football that was Seattle's last drive.

Quit complaining about the refs "giving the game" to Seattle when GB was on the receiving end of a call that nearly "gave the game" to GB instead.

 

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Otm_Shank

September 25th, 2012 at 4:06 PM ^

The problem is that you can make that argument about a number of plays throughout the game.  On the first TD that Seattle scored, there was a clear holding call that was missed on Clay Matthews.  Russell Wilson was able to scramble for a first down.  A few plays later, Seattle scores a TD.

I think it's quite clear that the referees were terrible throughout the entire game but IMO they were most egregiously bad during the final few minutes.

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triangle_M

September 26th, 2012 at 1:17 PM ^

As long as the ratings don't dive Goodell doesn't really care about what anyone thinks (hint, they are doing just fine LINK).  If people start to do other things than watch football with their Sundays, Monday and now Thursday nights, we might see movement.    

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