And I'd have been the THIRD open thread...
It's time. Hopefully not OT, but probably will be till tomorrow.
And I'd have been the THIRD open thread...
It's time. Hopefully not OT, but probably will be till tomorrow.
Beaten to the punch on my home turf. OP makes Peggy sad.
The first three picks will almost certainly be:
Taking a RB so high rally doesn't make much sense to me, considering the emphasis on passing, the short average career of RBs, and the Mathletes analysis of the impact of a returning RB in the college game.
you can probably say
4. Minnesota - Matt Kalil
The Browns actually did something right.
Giving up a 4, 5, and 7 to move up one spot is right? They must've had some good info that someone else was going to trade with minnesota to beat them to give that much.
The Browns have no playmakers. Since they didn't do enough to get RG3, they had to do everything they could to get Richardson.
I agree, but wouldn't he have been there at 4? All indications were that Minnesota would take the OT
I'm sure Minny let Cleveland know that they were going to trade the pick, and what the price was. That's why Cleveland gave what they did. Teams don't do things like that without reason, and most of these GMs know what everyone else is going to do.
Cleveland already missed out on RG III. Their fan base would have burned down the stadium had they missed out on Trent Richardson.
You mean the Alabama draft open thread. Geesh.
Link??? (on the Minn/Cleve trade).... doesnt really make sense from Cleveland's side, anone they wanted at 4 is gonna bethere at 3 (can they really want USC's OT that bad when they have Joe Thomas)
It's for Richardson, not the OT
I didn't actually read a link to that trade. Just saw it on the twitters
He would have been there at 4... IF no one traded up in their place. I don't think they gave up too much.
Seems like a lot to give up to move 1 spot. I guess tampa was driving up the price.
Dumb move by Cleveland, whats new.
Hoping the Lions can get Dre Kirkpatrick at 23.
Unfortunately looks like they would have to trade up to get one of the top CB's. Unless they take a chance on Jenkins maybe.
as a tampa fan, i will be pissed if claiborne and richardson both get drafted before the 5th pick. its starting to look like a very real possibility, though.
and we lost out on Claiborne. Now what?
when Tebow smiles as I feel when RGIII smiles, then I totally get Tebow-mania (NTTAWWT)
I reserve my good feelings for the smilings of Leo Messi... though those have been hard to come by this past week :(
on twitter with some nice comments:
"I know Trent Richardson is supposed to be GREAT, but I still think taking a RB with the third overall pick is a waste of resources.
The issue isn't how good is Richardson. The issue is Richardson vs. avg RB compared to Claiborne vs. avg CB or Kalil vs. avg OT.
It's a lot easier to find an avg RB than it is to find an avg OT, and it is a lot easier to find an avg OT than it is to find an avg CB."
I agree it's very poor form to put such stock in a RB (a lesson all Bears fans learned over and over). However, here in Ohio the general belief is that the defense is headed in the right direction, but the offense is so stagnant that its unwatchable. Cleveland needs that excitement-especially with a very solid L side of the lineand a possession qb
Then do what every smart team does - if you don't need a top-5 type position (CB, DE, OT, QB) or aren't quite high enough to get the good ones, trade down, not up. They should have traded down and taken a guy like Doug Martin, and they would have had more picks to build with rather than fewer picks. Or they could have picked a WR and kept their later round picks.
This screams terrible decision to me, but it's the Browns, so yeah.
But try to convince a Packers fan that they shouldn't have taken Barry Sanders over Tony Mandarich. Even IF Mandarich had panned out, Barry carried the Lions for a decade.
Individual players have their own values.
It's about context and playing in the afc north you need to run the ball. The browns average backs didn't do the job.
So, approximately half the draft class will end up in Minnesota.
Browns still have 8 more picks after the trade.
I dont think Jenkins goes in the first round. Too many red flags.
So what is Detroit's "home run" draft?
Move up to pick Barron, trade for Samuel, then snag maybe a RB and an OL late?
was traded to Atlanta yesterday
Well I'm behind on the news.
I guess that makes drafting a corner priority 1-A.
I have a bet with people from home: Who gets taken first - Mike Martin or Kork Coupons. Most mock's think they win, but I'm holding out hope.
1st round is brilliant.
The people who attend this draft are dopes.
Browns season ticket holder here. I LOVE the trade. Bout time we did something with those damn low round draft picks we've been stockpiling. Nice move.
so why is it taking the colts more than 20 secs to have the card up and ready to read. This is the part I hate about the draft, everyone knows who you are picking, why even put it on a clock just get it over with.
I find it odd that his father is not here.
his real father is busy shooting a new Geico commercial.
Did the Redskins just draft RGIII or Andre 3000 from Outkast?
I hope the Jags can get Blackmon for Henne.
The browns finally make a good pick
...and desperately need to get an update on Mel's hair status. Please tell me it's as smoove as ever.
Sorry. I'm watching NFL Network. I'd like to take the majority of ESPN and beat them with a shovel, Chris Mortensen exempted.
It's as smooth as Denard's play against OSU last season.
Not only is it smoove, it is schmoooveeee
This draft is actually a pretty entertaining draft. soo many trades
Tampa bay got screwed over big time. They thought Claiborne was gonna be there and the cowboys stole their guy from under their nose
is that getting screwed over?
I will be shocked if Miami really takes tannehill here. I just don't see 9th pick talent, but hey I just watch alot of football...I am not a GM!
He is this year's Christian Ponder - the QB a notch below the elite guys in the draft that some team is going to talk themselves into drafting a round earlier than his actual value.
LOL at the Bucs. The Cowboys jumped all over that one, and then they compounded it by reaching for Barron.
So much for Barron going in the 12-14 range.
We should've taken Kuechly.
I just realized we cut Tanard Jackson so we do need a safety. And I just read that the Bucs weren't as sold on Claiborne as everyone thought.
Mark Dominik is an idiot. Not to shit on Mark Barron, because as a Bucs fan, I hope he goes All-Pro and becomes our next John Lynch. And anyone who comes out of Nick Saban's defense is worth his salt and then some. But in my opinion, they should not have traded down.
That extra 4th round pick had damn well better be worth it.
I cannot believe the Phins are even considering taking him.
I kow they need a qb bad, but jumping up to grab an another average one is debilitating to the franchise.
Edit- A guy from Texas with a super hot blonde gf? Color me shocked....
Tannehill is maybe a bottom of first round talent to a team that doesn't need a QB for 2-3 years....him starting from day 1 is not good!
He is at best a backup. He wasn't good enough to start consistently at AM who did not exactly have a boatload of elite QB talent in front of him. Why do the Phins think this guy will magically transform at the next level??? Strange.
They just showed Stephen Ross on NFL Network and Rich Eisen gave him a loud couple "Go Blue!"s.
Is dating Barbie.
but Tannehill seems like a good bet for a bust
He looks and feels a lot like Blaine Gabbert. Mobile QB with a all of the physical tools, but has a lot of questions about decision making making, accuracy, and understanding of the position. Also in that they both had no business being drafted as highly as they were, but in a league where the QB position is so highly valued, it happens.
Looking for anew team? He'd be a sweet back up for stafford
With all the teams looking to jump up and give up a 4th or 5th round pick....why not slip back 4 or 5 spots and pick up a few extra picks and still get him?
Was really hoping Tannehill went to Seattle...that would have been 2 more wins each year!
This had been an exciting draft, but they really need to stop showing the behind the scenes shots... kills all the suspense.
They are doing that? Just turned it on is why i am asking but I had just read an article (think awful announcing) that said they weren't going to do that this year. P.S. Chris Berman is incredibly annoying.
Now that Inge is available the Lions should take him round 2
My cowboys did it big again . Jerryworld going crazy
It's a part of the reason I love college football so much (though both were good when I started watching football; the LOVE for Michigan has grown with the aid of Miami being a s**thole for an NFL team). Cheers to Ryan Tannehill. Good for him. But man, he is not the next Dan the Man.
Ryan Tannehill will win rookie of the year. BOOK IT!
I'm hoping to get picked up by a team late. I'm 5'11, 190 and I have lots of intangibles. Also, I can throw a football so by being a QB I can probably automatically get drafted 2-4 rounds higher than I should.
I can also play placeholder
Well, unless the Lions go up and get Dre Kirkpatrick, I'm guessing they trade out of the 1st round.
Ever trade down?
He hasn't ever really been in a position to trade down.
the Lions draft Terry Fair. We could use a solid corner.
Yea he wont make it past cincy
Lol at everyone complaining about Schefter ruining the draft.
I hope the Lions take Cordy Glenn
This just breezes by now.
The first round used to be unwatchable.
They might have a couple options when 23 comes around. Sweet!
Perfect DB for Schwartz. Big and physical. He is just what the Lions need.(crosses fingers)
We have enough pot heads on the team
Biggest surprise was clearly Luck going 1.
Big surprise there.
Lost out on Samuel...do you prefer Kirkpatrick?
I would love if the Lions ended up with Mychal Kendricks and Janoris Jenkins. It could happen, but not likely. We need a OT, but man is it a weak draft this year for OT... Kalil didn't even grade out that high as far as draft over draft rankings are concerned.
Cordy Glenn would be a huge upgrade over Peterman or Gosder. Very versitle guy. I don't think he'll ever make it as a LT though.
Agreed but Backus has been on his last leg for a while. He had a nice year last year but how many more can he have in the tank? I'm guessing not many if any... Would be nice to get a big time LB, but man I like the value of Kendricks.
Lions take hightower. If not any available OL.
Take the Lions cornerback?
Man, Poe film looked weak. He just doesn't bring it on the field. Motor is an issue and he is supposed to be a NT in a 3-4 in KC? That looks like a bad pick in my e-pinion.
He's the classic bust DT. High upside, shows flashes of being dominant, but takes a lot of plays off. Teams bank on those guys changing their attitude or developing a motor, but they never do.
Absolutely. He could be ok in a 4-3, but man you can't have a NT taking plays off... poor fit for sure.
I hear ya, but his ceiling is high enough to warrant the risk.
i'd be happy if either Dre Kirkpatrick or Janoris Jenkins was still there
In two years people will be calling him Janitor Jenkins.
Love Jenkins if in the second round, but man with our coach (don't get me wrong I love Schwartz, but he doesn't scream discipline) I just don't know if he will stay on the field... very risky but high upside for certain.
Best case scenario: Puts the immaturity behind him. Ends up being far and away the best corner in this draft, and a huge steal in the second round.
Worst case scenario: Goes on a walkabout with Ricky Williams in the Australian outback prior to his rookie season to, "find himself." Breaks the record for most violations of the league's substance abuse policy in one year.
I hate taking that kind of a gamble at a position of serious need. They can't afford a bust at CB right now. It's not like Fairly last year.
Freaking Ohio is always ruining things.
Kirkpatrick is now gone. CORDY GLENN! CORDY GLENN!
Guess OT for the Lions.
Anybody else who's watching on espn notice the graphic for Poe said he was the 11st pick?
Would DeCastro be a good pick for the lions?
Very rare that a G is higher value than the 2nd Tackle on the board, but I feel Reiff is overvalued b/c he is a tackle! Guard is not "sexy" pick but he may be a 8-10 year starter.
Riley Rieff, Cordy Glenn. Maybe a CB in round 2
Reiff has T Rex arms. He's a Backus clone.
Welp, my Redskins got their guy.
You better hope that he's THE guy, cus they're not gonna be getting another guy for awhile.
Oh he's the guy. He's going to be electric. I can see the Sports Center clips coming now. We also probably gained 150k fans across the country tonight.
Football is a team game. I don't understand giving up so much for one guy. Not even Brady is worth that.
Very few positions are worth it. A franchise QB is one.
but without a strong supporting cast he won't be able to maximize his talent. I can see two for one, but not 4 players for one. 4 players who should at least be starters .
But Tom Brady has been carrying what would otherwise be at best a mediocre team for a few seasons now. So it can happen.
But maybe banking on your QB turning into Tom Brady is not the wisest strategy.
"You know, former Giants GM Ernie Accorsi told Cowherd a few weeks ago that a franchise QB is worth FIVE first round draft picks. That might be a little bit of an exaggeration but he makes a great point. You can't put a price tag on being set at the most important position in the game. You really can't."
Also, they did not give up four players they gave up three... this year's first round pick was a swap.
Also while they gave up 2 first round picks and a second, it is not a guarantee that any or all of those players would have turned out to be starters.
It is a guarantee that RGIII (Not Rex Grossman III) will start at some point this year.
It was the last first round pick you'll see for 3 years.
I have a very real fear that the Lions might pull a Millen and take another D-lineman to make it 3 for 3. Mayhew's commitment to the best available strategy is worrisome.
Just ask the Giants. Plus with Vandenbosch getting old and Avril maybe heading out of town, the Lions will need an DE who can rush the passer.
The browns are looking good for either right tackle or wide receiver at 22!
If they can get Reiff the draft is looking real good for the brownies. They need a wr but they can manage with that line and Richardson.
That pick guarantees one of the two top remaining wrs or Reiff.
Wide reciever....please God....make the Browns take a wide reciever!
Means there will be a whole lot of inexperience on the field in September...
Or a bunch of 2013 1st round draft picks...
Those two viewpoints aren't mutually exclusive. 'Bama's going to keep reloading until they actually lose a couple of games.
any chance the Lions take Janoris Jenkins???
He did not even use a trainer to prepare for the draft. That and his legal issues make him a questionable selection. But Mayhew is not afraid to take guys with issues as seen with the Fairley and Leshoure selections.
With how that's gone character will be of concern. Watch.
Not in the first, but man do I hope he is still there in the second...
Lol... Way to go Bears
The bears select that guy from Boise.....crickets!
Very poor mans JJ Watt.
Anyone down for Chandler "Bones" Jones?
NVM, Bill Belichick'd.
Make a pick or will they trade back
In a shocking turn of events, they move up.
Sooner or later someone had to inform them that they can't keep trading for future picks. Brady and Belichick are old and getting older. This team needs help now.
Damn the women there with Wright are all taller than he is! Heels I imagine, but still. That can't be a good sign...
Well. Detroit has a shot at Cordy Glenn, Reiff, or Decastro. Who will they pick. Please be Glenn!!!!!
Fans here would Love is Decastro fell a few more spots...ravens are known to trade up and down!
I heard teams worked him out at center. They need one bad.
I'm actually really impressed that Goodell didn't make that look totally awkward.
Sort of like them to pick Reiff. He may be something and the Lions line is getting old
Meh.. Glenn or bust
Weeden to the browns
Remember when NE needed secondary help?
And draft defense.
The world is coming to an end in 2012.
The 29 year old rookie lulz
LOL for MMA fans.
The first thing Kiper says about Chandler Jones is, "freakish arm length."
Lions on the Clock
WOW. Brownies... what in the hell.
Way to blow that great earlier pick.
Lions took no time at all to decide
Lions really lucked out with such good OL options left on the board.
Meet the waiver wire!
Interesting move by the Browns...thought they were gonna go OL
Reiff and decastro both still there, Im left scratching my head
Damn, I guess I was wrong, and I hope I'm wrong about weeden
Double mad, double post
What the hell is Cleveland thinking with that pick?
They could have easily had him or a player comparable to him in the second or third round.
A comparable player who is six years younger.
In the spot where maybe Tannehill should have come off the board!!!!
Glenn Glenn Glenn!!!!
Lions pick is in....
I will be pissed.
Riley Reiff come on down
Traded up again!
Must have a goatee.
Lions are taking Reiff. 'Bout time they got an OT.
Yeah good pick in my epinion.
OT but how do you change your avatar? Wanna leave this bad boy there:
Megatron to make the announcement!
Boom! Fell right into our laps I like it! Would be sweet to trade up a and grab DeCastro too!
EDIT- never mind my sweet idea. Stupid Shitsburgh!
How you going to boo CJ? That's just stupid. There is nothing to dislike about that guy. Pure class.
T Rex Arms!!
Making the pick and holding the Madden case, or does it wait till he gets off the stage?
come on DeCastro!
So much for moving up to get Decastro too. Oh well. Reiff!
Wow, the Pats just traded up again. I guess they're finally realizing that they need to start cashing in all of those chips.
CB in 2nd round is a huge need.
I like Casey Hayward from Vandy. Check out his tape and stats.
NE will take Hightower
Perfect draft thus far for NE.
Reiff is a smart pick. Had to do it. I hope he has a career as long as Backus had. Is Backus still on the team?
Love this nugget I found on ESPN's breakdown of him (edit: Reiff):
"Plead guilty to misdemeanor counts of public intoxication and interference with official acts in July of 2009. Officers reportedly found him undressing and acting disoriented in an alley when he ran into a nearby kitchen. Pursuit reportedly lasted 20 minutes and involved eight officers."
EDIT: This is about Reiff.
I like to be naked when I am black out drunk too.
Sounds awesome! Welcome aboard homeboy!
That made my morning.
Is a good pickup for Detroit. Being down here in Iowa, I got to see plenty of his game, and he's legitimate (as most Iowa Lineman who make the NFL leap are).
/obligatory from a Michigan Man
//really hope Reiff is as good as he appears
Was a bit of a disappointment. Though there's much more to his story than looking at how many sacks he's given up. He was moved around a bit on the line and the abomination of a team he was drafted by, alone, earns a bit of redemption! All in all, yes, he definitely underachieved. New England thought enough of him to pick him up (depth purposes I imagine?!). I have to think Reiff out-performs Robert in NFL play, when their careers are all said and done.
If not we will have a serious problem on our hands.
Finally the Patriots using their draft picks to shore up some holes.
OL. This gives the Lions a solid OT for the next 10 years. Now they need a CB, RB, and DE.
Better a year late than not at all. Actually liking their draft so far.
I am as well. Two solid picks so far.
Both their second round picks.
Love the Reiff pick, looks like another solid B1G lineman. In Mayhew we trust.
Mayhew is a top GM in the NFL. I can't believe he's Millen's protege.
I like that pick for them
I think Jenkins would've been the exciting (ok, "sexy") pick, heaven knows we need a cornerback, but I will NEVER complain about taking a lineman. Yay.
By the way, am I the only one who still wishes the draft were still Saturday/Sunday? Used to love just being a beer-drinking lump all weekend watching the draft.
Well... It adds two extra days of drinking.., but I do have to work tomorrow.
Would the Lions take Molk later in the draft? He could learn from Raiola.
Learn how to what? Get blasted into the backfield on three-quarters of running plays?
is that his lack of size prevents him from pushing the pile.
He's exactly like Raiola in every way imaginable.
We need to replace Raiola like yesterday, but Molk is a reach block center (not a bad thing just what he is) and would be a perfect fit for NE. I wish there was a mauler center in this draft. I love Molk but I just dont think it would be a good fit for our OL strategy.
EDIT: Forgot about Konz. He is solid. Won't be there in rd. 2 though.
The Lions may have to consider Jenkins if he is still there in round 2.
Jenkins slips that far unless off field issues caused teams to remove him completely off their board?
because they did not take Decastro. What they fail to understand is that a good OT is harder to find then a guard of good quality.Rieff has higher value simply because of his position.
Plus this is likely Backus's last effective year and they likely won't have such a good OT drop to them next year. It's better to get Backus's successor in the system and have an experienced guy there instead of a rookie. Who knows, he may be needed right now. I think the negative talk about Backus has been blown out of proportion, but he did get owned in several games last year by younger guys.
I would bet money he starts at right tackle by week 6
Could the Lions trade up to get Jenkins? I would love it if they did. They could trade all the rest of their picks for him. They only have 2 glaring needs. One is met, and they haven't really had luck in the late rounds the way a team like NE has other than with Spievey (kinda).
Would you care to join my fantasy football league, and/or online Madden franchise league?
I dont think so
Konz from Wisconsin is tough.
To trade up to get TE Fleener before 49ers pick?
Damn that's a scary pick for the Packers. Love Perry.
Reif is solid but i hate that pick usage. Take one of the good def players there then trade up for an OL. Sick of getting dominated in the backfield. We have done nothing in free agency so please be smart and take a CB or LB next mayhew!
I would neg you if I could. Who would they have taken at corner or lb? This was a great pick for Detroit.
We signed one guy in free agency. A half ass cb. I said "free agency" because i dont assume re-signing your players as literally as some i guess. Also excuse my lack of "defensive" backfield. Didnt think i had to spell that out either. You boys think what you want but with hightower and kirpatrick still there.. Bad move. I think reif is a stud but it wasn't a value pick based upon our supreme need at cover positions.
Kirkpatrick wasn't there, he went 17 to Cincy
Fuckers got me all worked up haha.. I meant upshaw
A 3-4 OLB 4-3 DE with KVB, Avril, Lo Jack and Willie Young? Without addressing the OL again?
With an abismal run defense yea actually. At that spot pick. Again its not about taking an OL. Its about value for the spot. I like reif, no doubt a good pick just not at that spot.
I realize there's a need on defense but I cannot believe you can't see what a need there is on O-line. I mean, these guys are ancient. How long would you let them molder? We picked up a guy at a position of great need who fell a few slots to us. Nothing to complain about here. You take linemen before you need them because if you wait until you REALLY need them, you risk getting your expensive superstars hurt.
"Done nothing in free agency"??
Not impressed by the juggling act it took to keep all our own free agents, I see.
Plus the massive amount of cap space we have... Derp
If you're sick of getting dominated in the backfield, then OL is the pick for you.
I would personally love the Lions to trade up and grab Cordy Glenn this round, but if they don't I think it's very possible that Janoris falls to us in the 2nd round.
I concur. Glenn is a mauler and Peterman or Goz needs to be replaced. Our running game would be nasty. Then draft Polk in the late 3rd / 4th.
would be so awesome if Jenkins slid to us in the second but not holding my breath. Prolly need to grab a RB later too with LeShoure and Best both far from sure things. Get some young legs to grind some carries and hopefully fall into a good one.
He could slide to the late 2nd or 3rd. GMs aren't going to take a risk on him that early. In his interview he openly admitted to still smoking weed. He'll be a janitor in 2 years.
I would be more than happy grabbing either Chris Polk or Robert Turbin in the 3rd round.
No idea why Polk isn't highly rated. He's done nothing but carry a team for three seasons all while playing through injuries. He's such a hard runner and more elusive than meets the eye.
And the Vikings trade up to get Bantha Fodder for Calvin Johnson, ya I said it.....
I'm enjoying Jerel Worthy being passed on.
To falling out of the 1st. Oops.
Will Harbaugh take Worthy and his tat? Interesting.
Drafting at the end of the round! Been a long time! Don't care who they pick, just like BRADY Hoke....no need to question them! Just sit back and know they know what they're doing!
NOOOOO ??????? ......
/Screw Mizzou haterz
Seems like a bit of a stretch, figured he'd be 2nd rounder with 3rd round talent.
Apparently he is the 2nd best safety in this draft. That just shows you the gap between Baron and Smith was as wide as the Grand Canyon.
Quite the stretch for Harbaugh, especially with Jeffrey, Hill, and Sanu on the board.
Because the NFL is certainly liking our opponents talent.
LOVE the Reiff pick by the Lions. Top 15 talent at a position of need, no brainer.
I keep forgetting that Schiano is the HC at Tampa Bay now.
gotta say, i'm ultimately glad the bucs did not go with richardson. blount is a tank when he's on his game, and doug martin is a perfect complement to him. plus, he's an all-around back, which blount certainly is not.
Looks like Worthy fell outside the 1st round.
32 picks of necessary disappointment.
I guess jumping the snap and penalty prone foolishness don't translate we'll to the next level. Now he's just an out of shape dick.
Wilson is a great pick. Love that kid. Big, fast and great production.
I'm buckling up for the potential Spartan mega-butthurt if Mike Martin gets drafted before Jerel Worthy.
It should be noted that both Kiper and McShay had Reiff going #13 to the Cardinals. I'd say the Lions got excellent value.
is not going to get drafted. He didn't play like a 1st rounder and has major on and off field concerns.
Did anyone see that couple at the Rangers game keep the foul ball even after the little kid cried? It looks like they even taunted the poor guy. Assholes.
Well speculation on 2nd round prospects. I said it earlier in this thread but I would love to trade up and grab Cordy Glenn, or even Peter Konz, and just like that the o-line would be upgraded big time. If they decide to go the CB route, than maybe Jenkins is there or Brandon Boykin or possibly Josh Robinson from UCF.
I just meandered over to the RCMB, and they were having a discussion about whether or not the Lions should have taken Coupons at 23.
*~*Don't ever change ;) *~*
Lions fans, right? No real Lions fan would think they should take a qb in the first round, no matter which.
Lions fans, right? No real Lions fan would think they should take a qb in the first round, no matter which.
Potential Candidates (in no specific order):
CB - Janoris Jenkins, N. Alabama
CB - Josh Robinson, UCF
OT - Jonathan Martin, Stanford
OT - Mike Adams, Ohio
LB - Zach Brown, UNC
WR - Alshon Jeffery, S. Carolina
Personally, I'm praying Jonathan Martin falls to us...This would allow Reiff to play RT or RG and not LT where we'd have a smaller, shorter arms, not as athletic player there like we do now with Backus.
Martin has what you look for in at LT...I think he'd make a better LT than Reiff, but if Reiff can play RT he'll end up being the better player. But to get two bookends would be HUGE!
If we can't get Martin, I say go CB. Jenkins is the better fit and more talented, but comes with baggage. Robinson is more than solid.
Following them I got Brown, then Jeffery...I'd take Adams in the 3rd round if he was around and we didn't take Martin in the 2nd.
Hayward from Vandy..
I will say CB, Jenkins is a top 10 talent but with enough baggage for 5 skycaps.The safe play would be Robinson, Boykin or Hayward.
I'm not sure he makes his way into the 2nd round...seemed like a 3rd rounder to me.
With that said, I LOVE his game. If we could somehow get Jonathan Martin in the 2nd round and Brandon Boykin in the 3rd....WHEW!! I'd be going NUTS!!
That's my first scenario, the 2nd hopeful is Josh Robinson/Jenoris Jenkins in the 2nd and Mike Adams in the 3rd. Although we can't take two question marks in Jenkins and Adams, we'd have to change our colors to hemp green.
Good move! The Lions weren't getting any younger at tackle. I like it!
Go Honolulu Blue!