OT: NFL Draft Day 2 Open Thread

Submitted by M-Wolverine on

OK, it's still early, but the board is slow, and I've had enough of Sportscenter reruns hearing what they think of round 1, and while Day 2 isn't as exciting as Round 1, there may be some interest (and it practically carries us right up to the Red Wings game start). So till they hit the podium, who were the winners and losers of day 1 to you?

I hope I'm wrong, and it's NOT off-topic, but I'm thinking our players don't get drafted till tomorrow. So the Pats are on the clock. And are probably working on trading it as we speak.

Scheißkerl

April 29th, 2011 at 4:56 PM ^

made their secondary better by drafting Fairely, the quarteback has that much less time to get rid of the ball with him and Suh rushing up the middle.

Magnus

April 29th, 2011 at 5:01 PM ^

I hate Nick Fairley.

Anyway...I definitely think we'll have to wait until tomorrow to see any Michigan players get picked.  Not many offensive guards/centers have gone so far (only Watkins and Pouncey, IIRC), and even though I heard at one time that Schilling might be a 3rd rounder, I think that's overly optimistic.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

April 29th, 2011 at 5:01 PM ^

I hope Akeem Ayers or Ras-I Dowling fall to the Lions.  Selfishly I'd prefer Dowling.  But just grab a damn cornerback.  If they don't, I guess I'll just hope it's a sign they think they can re-sign Houston and they like Alphonso Smith.

GoBlueInNYC

April 29th, 2011 at 5:23 PM ^

The Lions' offensive line wasn't actually that bad last season. They were a bit wanting in the run game (20th in YPC; 24th in attempts), but they were definitely above average in QB protection (6th in sacks; 10th in QB hits). I agree that a better OL is needed, but last season's offensive line was definitely not nearly as bad as the seasons before it.

*Rankings are from the NFL website.

True Blue Grit

April 29th, 2011 at 5:02 PM ^

Yeah, he's good.  But, as someone said, the D-line was already an area of strength.  And the guy brings a lot of baggage with him.  IMO, the Lions need to upgrade their offensive line as a #1 priority.   They have a stud WR, franchise QB, and a great back.  But, they need a better line to protect Stafford and block for Best.  Yes, I agree that they also need a CB and Linebacker.  But, I'd go for a couple linemen with their remaining picks for sure.  Or maybe go for a good free agent if one's available. 

brandanomano

April 29th, 2011 at 5:04 PM ^

Jim Schwartz made a good point yesterday when he said that we started winning games at the end of the season because our D-line was coming together. We won 4 games in a row with a below average secondary and without our starting qb. I love the Fairley pick as long as he comes in and works his ass off. I'm hoping for Brandon Harris or another corner in round 2 and a linebacker in round 3. Maybe Bruce Carter or Greg Jones will be available. I also really like Casey Matthews if he's available in round 4. Everybody saying we wasted our first round pick needs to wait for the draft to be over because you never know (especially with this staff) who we'll end up picking.

WolvinLA2

April 29th, 2011 at 5:26 PM ^

Anyone who says we wasted our first round pick is an idiot.  Having the best DL in the league can make up for a lot of other deficiencies on a team, and we may have set ourselves up for exactly that.  There weren't any OTs worthy of the #13 pick I don't think, and Fairley will have more of an impact than any LB or CB that was available.  We'll grab some solid O-linemen and other defensive players with the rest of our picks.

jvp123

April 29th, 2011 at 6:04 PM ^

Anyone who says we DIDN'T waste our first round pick is an idiot. We have 1st round money now invested in 2 people at the same position. With the salary cap, we cannot afford elite level players at each position group if we are investing a lot of money to just one of those groups. After the 1st round, we still need every single high-priority position that we did before the draft even began. We may be able to get to the QB more easily, but that certainly won't stop our OLBs and CBs from being taken advantage of. Double moves, 5-wide sets, screens, etc. can all be used to tame an aggresive Dline.

How this is not being compared to WR I, WR II, WR III is beyond me. Now, if we had a rookie salary cap, I would be upset, but not as upset. You just can't, in this league, have 2 1st-rounders at the same position and succeed as an up-and-coming team.

4:59pm Thursday: OT, OLB, CB

4:59pm Friday: OT, OLB, CB

As for impact, both Smith and Prince would've had a bigger impact because they would be an upgrade at a  position of need.

With KVB back, I think we could've had the best DL in the league without Fairley and an upgraded back 7 with a 1st round CB.

M-Wolverine

April 29th, 2011 at 6:30 PM ^

When they're building a team that can, not just make the playoffs. They're not filling all their holes in one season. But they may have a dominant unit at the most important spot after QB. They're choices were the rare chance to get elite talent at one of those positions, an inside O-lineman rather than an outside one, maybe the 3rd best CB talent-wise (a position of risky value), and a weak draft for LBs. They have a chance to have what every defense wants- control the line with just your linemen, and put everyone else into coverage. They can get value DBs and LBs and linemen in later rounds, and get someone excellent there with their #1 next year. If they improve, there won't be any great D-Linemen available there.
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<br>And comparing defensive linemen to receivers....I mean, really? Check and look...first round is full of QBs and D-Linemen, not receivers and CBs, for a reason.

Yinka Double Dare

April 29th, 2011 at 5:10 PM ^

As a Bears fan, I'm still in shock that the Bears drafted a guy at a position of obvious need who actually looks like the right pick.  But because it's a Bears draft with Jerry Angelo and therefore they are required to screw up something in the first two rounds by league rule, they botched a trade with the Ravens. 

I get the Fairley pick, I bet the Lions had him graded so much higher than anyone else on their board that they figured they had to go for it.  You can hide your secondary better when the QB is regularly running for his life.  Their D-line is ridiculous now, with star power AND quality depth.  Maybe grab a corner or linebacker in the second now, and take a shot on some guys for the o-line and back 7 in the later rounds as well.  They're doing a nice job on building the team, now if Stafford could just stay healthy...

03 Blue 07

April 29th, 2011 at 5:26 PM ^

This Mallett discussion is really interesting, especially what Steve Young said he'd heard (that pretty much everyone I talked to said "I wouldn't want this guy on my team")

brandanomano

April 29th, 2011 at 7:14 PM ^

I'm not sold on Best yet. I'm still skeptical because of his injury concerns and our O-line isn't that great. Burleson is getting towards the end of his career. He can also help as a kick returner, and can help free up some space for Calvin Johnson. Don't forget about Pettigrew too, I think he might break-out this season. I'm praying for some players who can help contribute to our back seven on defense though.

Our D-line and offense (minus the line) are pretty much set. We need to start focusing on these positions instead of ignoring them like we have been recently.