...I don't see how Money Man Matta has a job.
Coaches' timeouts are worse. Basketball teams should get one, full stop.
...I don't see how Money Man Matta has a job.
Tressel got caught; Matta hasn't (yet).
/answers own post, expects negbang
expect anything to come of this? I believe it when i see it.
Might be a flat-out denial.
But if this is true and the NCAA didn't know about it before the Yahoo story, OSU is likely screwed -- Tressel is a representative of that university and he essentially lied to the NCAA. It would also open the question of who knew Tressel knew. These things tend to cascade -- that's why the coverup is always worse than the crime.
Ask Martha Stewart, Kwame etc.
Calling a news conference about something you're going to do absolutely nothing about is rather pointless, is it not?
This is the same Gene Smith who desperately scrambled to find a loophole in the rules so all those players could play in the Sugar Bowl.
This is all for show. Nothing is going to be done.
That would make it the best week for Michigan rivalry in a long time. Beat MSU in basketball for a season sweep, Tressell gets canned, MSU loses the coach they think will build them into a power and melts down, OSU hires a career 500 coach because he beat Rich Rod 3 times in a row (like hiring Cooper).
Yes, I know the last two seem contradictory, but it's not.
If Gene Smith was about honor and doing the right thing then those 5 players wouldn't have played against Arkansas. So I don't expect him to come down hard on Tressel either.
So THIS is what it was like for everyone else the last couple years. Feels good.
Feels good to get some Scott Tenorman tears. It feels like the look on Lou Holtz's face after the 2006 ND game.
As for this, I don't want Tressel to have to "resign" over "health reason" or "national security" or however else they spin it if it's true, I want REVENGE and not excuses, I want the win column to get back into the 20's before they collapse into a shit show coaching search. I want this back ,legit.
I want Michigan to beat OSU on the field and not have to Ellerbe themselves into success a la Tom Izzo. Let Tressel stay there, twisting in the wind while we reload and return to winning football.
As things always seem to go with tOSU and their corrupt program, nothing major will come of this...
Gene Smith will probably announce that OSU is conducting an "investigation" into the matter, and then he will say a bunch of nothingness like "we have the best compliance people in college."
This "investigation" will be very, very limited, like all the others.
Nothing but a slap-on-the-wrist, program is too high profile for the NCAA to come down on.
I mean lets make sure he learned his lesson and give him a 1 year suspension but we'll let him coach against MSU, Nebraska, Wisc, PSU, UM, and the B1G champ game, as long as you promise me to not go pro but by god next year coach you better not pull this stunt again.
was there a higher profile program in the country at the time?
I don't know why people are saying "slap on the wrist". One of two things happened:
There's not really any middle ground here. Even if OSU were to not fire him with cause, he would still end up being fired because of the show-cause penalty. He's either guilty and gone, or innocent and nothing happens. I just don't see the middle ground.
...deals in absolutes..."
Haha, I had that coming. +1.
What is going to happen tonight to the Senator.
"He do that, he go to the box, you know. Two minutes, by himself, you know and he feel shame, you know. And then he get free.'
Triva: What movie did I steal that from?
If anything bad happens to Tressel, how long is it until Pryor is in the Ohio Witness Protection Program?
So many great lines in that movie.
3. Tressel knew, is guilty of major violations having to do with integrity, and gets away with it because (A) the best witness the NCAA can muster against him is a tattoo shop owner who trades tattoos for little golden pants and/or (B) the OSU administration is like Honey Badger, and don't care.
(For the few who don't know about Honey Badger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg ) NSFW!
A) I could definitely buy, but then it'd just be that nothing could get proven, thus being just like he was innocent. No slap on the wrist at all.
B) I don't think can happen. The penalty the NCAA would likely place on Tressel is a show-cause, which means that OSU either has to fire Tressel, or go through a review process where they have to justify employing him, with the NCAA having final say on whether they can or not.
Bruce Pearl would seem to be the obvious analogue to this situation. He lied to the NCAA in an investigation, later admitted to lying (seemingly of his own volition, but maybe someone can clarify that for me). Tennessee docked his salary $1.5 mil. and restricted him to recruiting on campus. The SEC suspended him 8 games. Everyone now expects the NCAA to hit Tennessee with a show cause penalty, but it hasn't happened yet.
OSU may be hoping that the NCAA decided those penalties were enough and won't hit Pearl with a show cause penalty. If the allegations are true and admitted, maybe they'll hit Tressell with similar penalties (multi-game suspension, dock his pay) and hope the NCAA is satisfied.
If the allegations are true, however, I would think Pryor and the other four are done, as they played in multiple games when the institution (in the form of the coach) was aware of their receiving improper benefits. OSU would likely have to vacate the wins and suspend them for improper benefits.
You're right about Pearl; I also hope you're right about Pryor and Co. Tressel deserves to lose his credibility if this is all true, and the players deserve to lose their eligibility.
... don't give a shit!
Honey badger RULES!
It sounds like it may be more than a slap on the wrist. Smith is apparently part of the NCAA Tournament selection comittee and had a bunch of things scheduled for today (meetings with others on the comittee etc.) but has scrapped that to head back to Columbus from NYC. I read the article on the Detroit News site someone with better computer skills can probably embed. Maybe this time where there's smoke there's fire
Absolutely nothing significant will come out of this. Slap on the wrist for Tressell, at the very most (like a one-game suspension or something).
It will take the NCAA literally hauling Tressel off to some kind of collegiate sports jail for OSU to not allow him to be their coach. They'll probably suspend him ......until Monday.
Enjoy the long weekend Tress!
Retweeted by chengelis - According to the Columbus Dispatch, OSU has reported 375 violations to the NCAA since 2000, more than any other FBS team .
But (a) that's a LOT of violations, (2) what good is reporting minor transgressions, if you don't report the major ones, and (d) it almost looks worse when that he didn't report these; he *(arguably) deviated from his normal mode of conduct when confronted with this particularly hot potato.
a, 2, d? I'm seeing a disconnect here, Blue.
This young man's girlfriend was once described as "woof"
If a2d was a joke, it went completely over my head. What movie/book/show was it?
Buzz McCallister, listing the reasons why he wasn't worried about Kevin:
"A, I'm not that lucky. Two, we use smoke detectors and D, we live on the most boring street in the whole United States of America, where nothing even remotely dangerous will ever happen. Period."
Wow. Self negged for missing a Home Alone reference. Just...wow.
But I bet you can't see the dead bodies that old man Marley keeps in the garbage can full of salt.
for srs??? That's 30 something every year. Unless I am missing some joke here, that is stunning.
Wow. Isn't Eleven Warriors their big blog? I would say this is as close to a reliable source as we have at this point.
Pretty comparable to MGo (except they suck, obviously and we don't). But this is pretty solid. I believe they were the first to break the details of the TatGate violations.
This is awesome.
Its probably true but I guarantee he's on that sideline come Labor Day weekend this fall. Maybe they'll do something ALMOST meaningful like keep him out of spring practice.
Lets not kid ourselves here, a vast majority of programs aren't going to do anything significant to a successful coach until the NCAA forces them to short of the coach causing physical damage to a player, child, family member etc.
Hint: watch on mute.
If that is true, then shit is getting real. If that goes down, then Tressel is falling on the sword to prevent the whole program and athletic department from being leveled.
I've been lurking over there enjoying the sadness/shame and confusion for most of the day.
Hire Rich Rod
If you think it's bad losing to the sweatervest, can you imagine losing to a coach we fired? Tempt not the fates...