OT: Nebraska voted off the AAU island.
So this just popped up on my twitter via the Big Ten... Nebraska was voted out of the Association of American Universities for failure to meet certain requirements. This may not be a big deal to many, but given that the Big Ten has such high academic standards, Nebraska isn't exactly getting off on the right foot. I seem to remember that being thrown around as a sticking point for B10 membership early in the whole process. For those who know more about the AAU than I do, please elighten me as to whether or not this should be considered a Big Deal or not.
EDIT: ESPN link.... http://tinyurl.com/4ybcx95
Insane clownage, on Nebraska. 10,000 yard penalty, still 2nd down.
I hope they have a play drawn up for this situation.
Texas fans are probably saying "Caveat emptor" right about now.
Have you seen the Big12? Between Texas Tech and Ok State, I really don't think Texas is too concerned with the academic standards of their conference members.
(That and Texas probably liked having the automatic win against Nebraska every year.)
they get 5 downs.
I can hear the call now...."Nebraska is gonna go for it here on 3rd and Cosmic...."
Great... our coaches cheat, our institutions can't even make the AAU. What's next, warm weather and Bobby Boucher? Bowl games taking place in states in which our schools acutally reside? No wonder the Urban Meyer rumors are heating up. Maybe our conference might learn to play this 'football' too...
Maybe its Pac 10 Senioritis?
Perhaps. But then again, I'm not sure they've ever played in the Pac 10...
Bah, I always mix up the Big 12 and Pac 10 in my head. You know what I meant.
Or Big 8 senioritis.
I think you misspelled "Texas"
April 30th, 2011 at 12:42 PM ^
of that state south of the Red River is
Texass
I actually consider this a REALLY BIG DEAL. For the Big 10 standards, this is repulsive. Can we reconsider Missouri for Nebraska?
I would rather have Pitt. Pitt has one of the top research programs in the Big East, especially in the biological sciences and computer science.
Good point. I wasn't thinking outside the Big 12. Pitt would be my choice too for academic equivalency. Plus with Pitt in the Big Ten, you could put Penn State and Pitt in one division, and Ohio State and Michigan in the other. Balance would return to 'the force'.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:35 PM ^
As a former Pitt student...^^^^^ this. The issue is (IMO) Heinz Field and market share. Pitt, especially without WVU, doesn't draw enough attention to be a good addition in football.
Too bad really, Pitt has tradition and academics, and is in a decently big city.
April 30th, 2011 at 11:45 AM ^
Agree with the above. The other bonus that Pitt would bring is a great b-ball program. They'd have to change their recruiting base as it would be tough for them to retain their NYC pipeline without the Big East tournament in MSG, but they should be able to do that.
April 30th, 2011 at 11:54 AM ^
I think they would be a killer addition in basketball (obviously). Maybe you're right that the territory would become less NYC/Philly oriented, but Dixon can flat out recruit for his system.
I think ultimately players come to play for Dixon to win basketball games, and as long as they do that, Pitt could be in the Pac and still draw a good class.
April 30th, 2011 at 12:13 PM ^
No doubt. I was a little nervous when Howland left and they gave the job to Dixon, but that might have been the greatest move in recent Pitt b-ball history.
April 30th, 2011 at 12:43 PM ^
Dixon is a great, great coach. Here's hoping Graham can get anywhere near that level of success. At the very least it'll be interesting to see Magee in blue and gold....suck it, WVU.
With their involvement with the CIC, they should regain that status soon. They're going to get a LOT of pressure to boost their research efforts.
Someone to look down at academically?
Nice. Really nice. Funny AND insightful.
This just confirms it.
...they would not have gotten the Big 10 spot. I think that is pretty serious.
At least Sparty has someone to look down upon academically in the Big 10.
I'm secure enough in my education and career that I don't need to rag on other people for where they went to school. I'm above that as I'm sure many other Spartans are as well.
From the OP's link:
What put Nebraska at a particular disadvantage within the AAU is that the university's medical school is part of the statewide system, but not part of the flagship Lincoln campus. So the medical school's research dollars do not count toward Lincoln's AAU numbers. In an analysis conducted last year by The Chronicle, Nebraska's system as a whole outpaces at least 11 current AAU members.
That is kind of strange Many universities have the professional schools in locations other than where the main campus is located. The med school is in Omaha. IU, Northwestern, PSU, just to name three schools in the B1G where the med school is not where the main campus is located.
Drats! Beat me to it!
I don't think the distinction here is about location, but rather affiliation, or lack thereof, with the Lincoln campus.
They are a private school and their Chicago campus is regarded as the same as Evanston. I can't speak for PSU or IU but Northwestern doesn't have lesser campuses like a Dearborn/Flint or IU's various campuses.
Exactly; they have a shuttle that runs from their schools in Chicago (law/med and I think a Kellog building).
The article linked by the OP has been updated with the following quote from the Chronicle of Higher Education (apologies if everybody has read this already):
What put Nebraska at a particular disadvantage within the AAU is that the university's medical school is part of the statewide system, but not part of the flagship Lincoln campus. So the medical school's research dollars do not count toward Lincoln's AAU numbers. In an analysis conducted last year by The Chronicle, Nebraska's system as a whole outpaces at least 11 current AAU members.
I don't know if that's a legitimate complaint or just an excuse, but it sounds like Nebraska is probably AAU quality and just got caught on the bad side of the way the numbers are calculated. Hopefully that's the case, because I'm not about to lose my haughty academic braggadocio when I talk about the Big10.
are haughtily arguing with is NOT going to throw nebraska's aau status back at you.
It doesn't matter. They're gonna dominate the Big Ten.
How many NCs has Penn State won since they started to DOMINATE the B1G?
Than even the Big Ten Championships they have won over all that time of "domination".
...if it wasn't for those meddling kids:
April 30th, 2011 at 11:51 AM ^
I can't wait to get back to having defenses like that! I am starting to forget that a defense can actually stop other teams for no gains or have guys in the secondary bat away passes. Bring on Western!
April 29th, 2011 at 11:27 PM ^