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OT: NCAA won't punish UNC for allegations

Looks like the NCAA won't punish UNC for their scandal. 

http://twitter.com/BryanDFischer/statuses/241559970624196608

RT @awfulannouncing: You know where else there wasn't NCAA rules broken? Penn State. Glad the NCAA is such a beacon of consistency.

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August 31st, 2012 at 11:39 AM | The NCAA is a *ucking joke! (Score:2)
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The NCAA is a *ucking joke!

Go Blue

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August 31st, 2012 at 11:43 AM | The NCAA is a *ucking joke! (Score:4 Normal)
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You're being overly kind to those incompetent clowns.


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August 31st, 2012 at 1:10 PM | Death penalty (Score:3 Normal)
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The "newer, tougher NCAA" should give the death penalty: to itself.  It's time to disband the NCAA and start over.  If any other business was as inept and incompetent as the NCAA, it would never survive its first year.

They need a stripped-down replacement model that is simple, consistent, and actually supports the interests it claims to support.

 

 

 

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August 31st, 2012 at 11:42 AM | Florida State must be (Score:1)
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Florida State must be furious.  FSU had a somewhat similar problem, but to nowhere near the scope or duration.

What exactly do investigators at the NCAA do besides stick their heads up their collective rear ends?

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August 31st, 2012 at 11:48 AM | The NCAA can go fuck itself, (Score:5 Normal)
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The NCAA can go fuck itself, except it would probably screw that up too

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

StraightDave owes me a steak dinner

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August 31st, 2012 at 11:49 AM | How is this possible? I have (Score:2 Normal)
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How is this possible? I have no idea anymore what is or isn't a violation.

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August 31st, 2012 at 12:13 PM | This is ridiculous! (Score:1)
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This is ridiculous!

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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August 31st, 2012 at 12:17 PM | What the (Score:5 Normal)
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August 31st, 2012 at 12:31 PM | This is a load of shit (Score:3 Normal)
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Seriously... this is like... Yeah. My feelings were already captured in this thread.

This isn't even hard. The NCAA punishment division need to be one guy. He has a list of things with a corresponding punishment next to each one.

Minor Recruiting Violations (Single) - Warning

Minor Recruiting Violations (Multiple) - One lost scholarship, one year

Major Recruiting Violations (Single) - one lost scholarship, one year, per violation, probation, post-season ban, one year

Major Recruiting Violations (W/ on probabtion) - Three lost scholarships, three years, per violation, post-season ban, three or more years

Academic Fraud (single/minor) - player ineligibility, forfieted wins, post-season ban (one year), probation

Academic Fraud (multiple/major) - as above, three year post season ban, 5 lost scholarships, three years, per occurance

Academci Fraud (while on probation) - DEATH

Player Criminal Conduct w/ staff/university knowledge - Player Ineligibility, 5 scholarships lost, two years, post-season ban

Staff Criminal Conduct w/ university knowledge - Show Cause, Post-Season ban, at least three years

Pay-for-play/Financial Violations (first) -Player ingeligibility, two years, Lost scholarships, five, two years, forfieted wins, probation

Pay for play/Financial Violations (multiple/on probation) - DEATH

And then they can be mixed, for instance, a single pay-for-play with coach knowledge leads to the pay for play penalties plus a show cause, an additional five scholarshps lost, two year postseason ban.

"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
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August 31st, 2012 at 12:51 PM | The NCAA will never go for (Score:2)
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The NCAA will never go for this, it is just to simple!

Go Blue

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August 31st, 2012 at 12:51 PM | Read the front page! (Score:3 Normal)
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Read the front page!

Go Blue

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August 31st, 2012 at 1:00 PM | I like it (Score:1)
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RTFP = RTFM?

 

 

 

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August 31st, 2012 at 1:47 PM | This is really messed up. The (Score:2 Normal)
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This is really messed up. The UNC case, which included widespread instances of academic fraud, preferential treatment, and lack of oversight, is way worse than what happened at OSU and USC. UNC is among the worst offenders we've seen in years, especially among major universities. 

 

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August 31st, 2012 at 2:12 PM | Right when I thought the NCAA (Score:3 Normal)
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Right when I thought the NCAA might have finally grown a pair and figured it out . . . sigh.

OK, this isn't as bad as what happened at PSU, but academic fraud cuts right to the NCAA's mission.  How can they look the other way?

 

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August 31st, 2012 at 2:49 PM | take action! (Score:1)
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This is the email address of Mark Emmert, NCAA President:

memmert@ncaa.org

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August 31st, 2012 at 5:40 PM | This is why I thought the PSU (Score:1)
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This is why I thought the PSU sanctions were beyond the bounds of the NCAA.  There is no rational argument that can be made holding that the NCAA is not able to punish a member institution for academic fraud that kept players eligible but IS able to punish a member institution severely because a coaching staff hid a non-football related crime , no matter how heinous. 

Nothing will change, but the NCAA punished UM more for stretching excessive than outright cheating by UNC. 

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September 1st, 2012 at 3:24 PM | I think OP and yourself are (Score:0)
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I think OP and yourself are the only ones that agree with me. As atrocious as the CRIMES were.....legal crimes.....the NCAA gave themselves permission to step out of their bounds to do what they did. This UNC stuff makes it all the more insane.

My opinion on the NCAA/psu thing got me negged to oblivion. I dont care. It is a legal issue being handled in court systems. The NCAA just reacted to acceptable public disgust and wanted to show they still have teeth but we all know they dont have a clue what they are doing, play favorites and flat out make CFB worse. The SEC isnt the best conference JUST because the South has a bunch of speed/talent/whatever. Years of turning blind eyes to paying kids, providing hookers and other benfits tends to give said teams an advantage.

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