He walked away from his remaining eligibility to avoid the cooperative principle.
He walked away from his remaining eligibility to avoid the cooperative principle.
Just because his family may have money does not mean he is opposed to making more money especially his own. Especially if the reports are true that the amount was in the 5 figure range.
Some of the world's most wealthiest people are driven to make that extra cent at all costs.
...or is Manziel the new Tebow? I'm tired of hearing about him on ESPN 24/7...I absolutely didn't want Manti to win the heisman but at least we wouldn't have to hear about him all the time if he woulda won...Rant Over
I wouldn't be so sure about Manti. If he had won the Heisman (and if the public never found out he was making up a fake girlfriend) he would be getting this Manziel like hype. I have no doubt about that.
The whole month of September (and most of October) last year was commentators and ESPN completely drooling over this guy non-stop. It was never ending. He suddenly became the first football player in history to play a game after losing a family member. Then you combine that with the Notre Dame factor, where they get over-hype simply for beating teams like Navy. That equals out to one big media drool fest.
The Manziel hype is tiresome, yes. But better he than Te'o or some other Notre Dame player.
More of what I was getting at was Manti has moved on to the nfl and Johnny's still around which means at least another year of this guy unless something dramatic happens...which for him is a almost weekly thing because he's a 20 year old in college
$60,000 Escalade, new house, new suits, and ability to support 2 children? Can't wait until Emmert gets fired. I also wonder what role Carr has in this investigation. It'd be nice if it signaled a new era of enforcement.
Johnny Manziel and Amanda Bynes would make a good couple.
If Manziel gets caught, do you think that will hurt his NFL stock more...i.e. How in the hell did you get caught by THEM (NCAA)...
Emmert does what the college presidents want him to do. When he stops, he'll be fired.
I agree that it should be investigated. And I have no real knowledge about how these things work except in the context of people taking on financial aid for school but...
Could he have been taking out loans for all those things? If I'm a bank, I'd be willing to bet Richardson is gonna make back the money to pay for all that stuff, and he'd be willing to sign up at a really high interest rate.
What a trainwreck!
are loaded. He already has expensive cars, electronics, etc. from his parent's money soooooo
Agreed. I think the $10,000 jockstrap problem is a big reason the NCAA doesn't let players sell their own stuff. I think the whole thing could be mitigated quite a bit if the NCAA set up a clearinghouse type thing with set prices for certain items, through which players could sell stuff and get the money when they graduate or turn pro.
Guaranteed that if they just open the floodgates to sell things, boosters at various schools (cough Alabama cough) will pull kids aside during recruiting and let them know there's a $10,000 check with their name on it as soon as they sign that LOI if they happen to have a spare practice-used sock lying around.
The only reason Ohio didn't get popped for this very thing during Tatgate was Pryor suddenly decided to go pro and enter the Supplemental Draft, which put him out of reach of the NCAA investigation.
Not quite right. This is part of what people misunderstand about the NCAA, I think.
It's not that the NCAA is uninterested, it's that they are incapable. We're talking, mostly, about two sports with hundreds of teams and thousands of athletes, and millions upon millions of fans (many of whom qualify as "boosters").
And we're talking about a complex, intensive series of regulations... That aren't even a part of civil law.
There is simply no way the NCAA can monitor all this. It's impossible. They aren't nearly big enough, and they have very little coercive power. None at all for ex-players.
The reason the NCAA borrows information from other sources is because it has no other choice.
..until I read the transcript of the NCAA investigator carefully walking Tressel through his testimony, pushing him back on-message when he got our of control and the truth threatened to slip out, even going off record when necessary to get him back on track. Tressel couldn't possibly have had better counsel...but it was the person assigned to interrogate him.
It's rare that we get that kind of inside view of an investigation, and for me it was an eye-opener.
Athletes should be allowed to make any money on the free market that they want, just like any other student can. That being said, Manziel is a walking advertisement for making the Heisman "upperclassmen only."
You rooting for the Heat to threepeat as well?
Only if Juwan is still on the roster.
I hope so too. I think all the problems about him are overblown. So he likes to party. What 20 year old in college doesn't? JFF is the truth.
The story should be less about the usefulness of NCAA rules and more about how stupid Manziel has to be to do something like this.
He was probably the only person standing in the way of Alabama. Just give them the Crystal Ball now.
I don't know. I want to see how Oregon performs with their OC in charge now, and I think Stanford might be able to go toe to toe with Bama. I don't think they'd win, but it'd be close if Stanford plays up to its abilities.
or gets arrested or gets in a wreck or ...
SEC East has a winning record against the West. Alabama is the best team in the conference. The next three are in the East.
I think that holds with or without Manzel
I'm in. My email is email@example.com. Email me.
Do you still have this one?
I'm in. Jmatthe313 @gmail.com if you have any more
Because it appears there's about to be a train wreck up in there.
A few years down the road, I could see a "30 for 30" on Johnny Football, going the same route as Todd Marinovich. Hope he can pull it together.
It's been fun taking shots at OSU, but even then I thought getting busted for trading autographs for tattoos was ridiculous.
With the current lawsuits against the NCAA, the fact that they are making a huge deal about a player making money off of his own signature is such a double edged sword. Does NASA punish astronauts for autographs? Why the hell can the NCAA suck money out of these athletes and get mad when the kids make money on their own?
See, I've always thought that the reason it was covered up was that Jim Tressel, like many of us, thought that it was a stupid rule not worth ruining a kid's career over.
My favorite part of this Manziel allegation is the Ohio fans trying to compare it to Pryor. There is no comparison. Ohio State's head coach knew of the violations, lied about it, and played players he knew were ineligible.
Not to mention the Ohio State players were trading not only autographs but team rings, awards, and uniforms with a drug dealing felon.
If you want to compare the suspensions the players got remember that it appears the Johnny football got considerably more money, I suspect that would be a factor in suspension length.
Bad analogy. NASA did punish astronauts for selling space trinkets.
not "space trinkets".
It has become abundantly clear that Manziel is just dumb.
"Even though Manziel is not allowed to generate income from his signature, the Manziel family has sought to protect Johnny's business affairs by starting a corporation, JMAN2 Enterprises, which in February filed for the trademark to use "Johnny Football" when he was ready to leave the college game."
You know, it is possible to per Bylaw 220.127.116.11 to continue in promotional activities provided a few things are true. You would either need to have been in business before you enrolled at school and/or come into the activity independent of your athletics ability. You would also have to forego any reference to your athletics affiliation and refrain from endorsing any specific product. The bylaw also talks about the rate of remuneration being commensurate with the trade and not a rate based upon one's athletic reputation.
I could be wrong, but trying to patent "Johnny Football" under the guise of protecting a corporate brand seems like a somewhat cynical ploy to avoid the repercussions.
Over privileged rich kid from Texas who happens to be good at football turns our to be a petulant douche with no concept of boundaries or consequences. Bit "on the nose" isn't it?
Ah yes, a class warfare monger. Sign of the times in this country.
It's just the non wealthy kids don't get labeled as douches.
I think people who comment on others finances generally lack decorum and the basics of etiquette, thereby being douches themselves.
I'll cut a kid more slack if he comes from a rough/poor background and simply doesn't always have a solid grasp on "how to act" when thrust in the limelight... but when you're a guy who grew up with every advantage, supportive parents etc. and you still can't seem to "get it right" the sympathy fades a bit more quickly. He knows what to do, he just can't manage to do it because he has this sense of entitlement. At least that's how he comes across.
I don't think the kids a douche at all, I think you calling him a douche shows how intelligent you are. The kid in college he can't enjoy his life at all because of the media and douches like you. Get a life, Cone on Man!!!
What news have you been following? Lets see, gets pissy on twitter over a ticket on his Mercedes, gets sent home from the Manning camp because he can't "wake up", shows up unannounced at a frat party on the campus of an arch rival and gets pissy when they boot him... And that's what? The last 3 months? You're right. Model citizen.
So you've never bitched about a ticket, overslept, or gone to a frat party at another school?
Either his coaches and parents have really failed him in teaching him how to deal with being a student athlete in the spotlight (even no-name members of a major D1 team are often local celebrities and get major attention) or he was/is not listening/does not care. Fair or not, one of the major drawbacks to being a successful athlete is that everything you do is up (fair or not) for criticism. He cannot expect to act like any other 20-year old kid, because he simply is not just another college kid.
You're comparing his status to "no-name members of major D1 teams"? He is quite arguably the most famous athlete in the country right now. There is not another college athlete that can appreciate the position he is in. We are not talking about him punching a girl in a bar, failing multiple drug tests, etc; it's oversleeping and tweeting. I'm not excusing his actions, but one has to keep some perspective. Also, how the hell do I break a paragraph?
That would be some good television