OT-NBA Free Agency Opening Day
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Steph Curry agrees to 5 years 201 mill with Warriors.
JJ Redick meeting with 76ers. #trusttheprocess?
Patty Mills 4/50 to return to Spurs
Jeff Teague 3/57 to head to Minnesota and replace Rubio
Tony Snell 4/46 to return to Milwaukee
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Also Shaun Livingston returning to Warriors 3 yr/24 mill
because that's a super cheap contract for a vet and it's partially guaranteed! 8 mil, 8 mil and 2 mil guaranteed for each year.
IMO, Andre Iguodala will leave GSW and GSW already has a natural replacement in Patrick McCaw. They will lose defense but gain 3 pt shooting.
Golden State definitely needs more 3-pt shooting.
their inefficiency from long range is what's preventing them from reaching their full potential
but their efficiency and volume is staggering. Helps that you have 3 of the best shooters in the league in Steph, Klay and KD. It's not their offense that helped them win the league, it's also their defense that is underrated. Their ability to switch screen without a problem is a rarity.
they'll be a playoff team next year for sure.
About curry going the Tom Brady route and taking less money to help keep all the pieces in Oakland to keep winning. I guess that's out the window.
No, Steph was always taking the super-max. He's been on a super discount for years.
KD is who was talked about taking less to keep pieces there, although that was more some clever cap manipulation of what year to take particular deals to maximize his money and the Warriors' cap.
Steph was going to rake in a shit ton of money. He was on a rookie deal and his ankle injuries allowed GSW to sign him on a cheap compared to his value. His contract is a big reason why they were able to sign KD last season. NBA fans can't be mad at GSW for drafting great with Curry, Klay and Draymond (all who are top 15-20 players in the league) and they have more than enough cap space to sign KD.
Thanks! Too many stars on that team to keep track of for the less than casual fan
Can someone explain to me how Curry's contract is possible? Curry is in his 8th season, and I thought his max contract was closer to $180 million/5-years. Is there an exception in the CBA that allows Curry to make way more than that?
Also, Kevin Durant declined his player-option for the 2017-2018 season. If Durant re-signs with the Warriors for a similar amount that has got to put a dent in GSW's ability to bring back their key bench players (i.e. Iguodala, West)...
The projected salary cap is ~$102 million next season, and about $79 million is committed to 7 players including Curry, Draymond Green and Klay Thompson. If Durant signs on for like $35-40 million a year... They're gonna have to go deep into the luxury tax to fill out the rest of their roster.
Maybe it has to do with that supermax deal the George missed out on in Indy by not making the all nba team?
I just saw that if the Warriors re-sign Durant to the max first, and finalize the rest of the roster... They can then use the "Bird exception" to go over the max and re-sign Iguodala.
It is the supermax contract since he was an all-NBA player. John Wall is about to sign a similar deal, though for 4 years.
From my understanding it was Durant, not Curry, who was being talked about taking less money so they could keep their bench. He is likely to take another 1+1 contact... we'll see just how much he is willing to let go money wise.
Redick going to the sixers would not be good for Stauskas
Stauskas not being a good NBA player is bad for Stauskas. Same for Burke.
Look at THJ. He's about to get PAID.
Redick makes a lot of since...pull his fellow Dukie Henderson off the bench and let them split the minutes at the SG spot.
That roster is a playoff team...if, huge if, they stay healthy. With as bad as the East is about to become, they may be a 5-6 type seed. Crazy.
I don't think Henderson gets much run under any healthy scenario. Starting backcourt should go Fultz-Simmons-Covington, with Saric at 4 and Embiid at 5. They'll bring McConnell off the bench, and then Stauskas/Reddick/whatever shooter, but I don't really see Henderson playing much of an on-court role.
Difference between NBA and NFL contracts is widening even further.
The top 5 paid players in the NFL are:
- Derek Carr - $25 million/year
- Andrew Luck - $24.59 million/year
- Carson Palmer - $24.35 million/year
- Drew Brees - $24.25 million/year
- Kirk Cousins - $23.94 million/year
Side note: Tom Brady's $20.5 million/year makes him the 14th highest paid QB in the NFL.
In comparison, the top-5 paid in the NBA:
- Steph Curry - ~$40 million/year
- Blake Griffin - ~$34.6 million/year
- Lebron James - $33.28 million/year
- Mike Conley Jr. - $28.53 million/year
- Russell Westbrook - $28.53 million/year
That's not including John Wall who is reportedly being offered a $170 million/4-year extention by the Wizards.
I understand that the rosters sizes aren't comparable, but the NFL makes almost triple the revenue of the NBA. I would think the NFLPA could have negotiated a better agreement than the one in place.
NBA stars are more powerful than NFL stars. Unless a player is a QB, they can be easily repalced.
Or there are far fewer players and coaches to pay so money goes a lot further.
Your comment is only relevant for the top players in the league (as you said...stars), but it doesn't explain why Tony Snell is getting a huge contract and his equivalent in the NFL is a rookie or 2nd year guy who's never played a snap but stop earns on the rookie wage scale and keeps a team under the cap.
That's really it. In the NBA the salary cap is roughly 100 Million (can be higher before luxury) split among close to 14 players (avg. 7.14 M). In the NFL the salary cap is roughly 150-160 Million split amoung roughly 53 players (avg. 3.02 M). Also NFL teams seem to carry a lot more salary cap hits for players no longer on their roster than they do in the NBA.
*still earns
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like you said, the roster sizes aren't comparable. NFL rosters are more like quadruple the size of NBA rosters.
than NFL CBA. Blame the NFLPA for it.
No... I don't think that's an honest assessment. Both leagues player revenue is about 58%. It's almost dead even.
Facts to a hot take......
Both leagues pay the players roughly 58% of all revenue. Maybe you can make an argument that with so much NFL money, players could get closer to 65 or 70%, but that's a very tough sell. The two CBAs are basically even in player compensation. There's just more players required to bring in the revenue in the NFL and if more players are required then the value of each individual player goes down.
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I get that guys are worth what the market says they're worth, but at what point does a team say that shelling out $40 million a year to one guy is enough?
At what point does a team say I don't care if you're the best player in the world, you're not getting "x" amount? The amount being shelled out to guys like Steph Curry for one year of work is more than most people will make in 50 lifetimes.
Not trying to be that guy, but I'm wondering when (or perhaps if) the bubble will ever burst and teams will just say that's too much.
Steph Curry is the reason that Golden State isn't trash. All the revenue that they've made from winning titles, etc. is due to him. The team brings in probably close to a billion dollars a year.
There is no "bubble." In fact, if not for the salary cap, the players would be getting paid even more (look at the MLB).
Define "worth."
LeBron may get double that on an open market. Who knows. His value to the Cleveland franchise, brand, the CITY, etc. is the reason their comic sans owner could sell his team TODAY for over a BILLION dollars.
80 million is a lot...but compared to 2 billion? And what is that franchise worth with no LeBron? Even if it's 1.5 billion, that's a lot of money, 500Ms. Yeah I'll give you 40 extra million if it saves my value 500.
That's simple math, but it's the logic behind it. Worth is more than win margin. These guys are worth even more than 40M/year.
Why would it be too much? The owners are mega rich and can pay 100s of millions of dollars a year for their team and organization. The players are the reason people go to games, is rather they get a bigger piece of the pie than owners keeping more of it. JMO
From a business standpoint it should make more money as well. Teams that make it to the finals make more money than the rest of the teams. Teams that have more star power make more money than other teams through TV contracts, advertising, jersey and ticket sales. Most of those teams that bring in the highest revenue end up near the salary cap anyway so it doesn't matter how it's distributed as long as the results and revenue remains the same.
Golden State Warrior revenue has increased dramatically with Curry on the roster and it's fair to assume that it would decrease dramatically without him. For an easier example, from a true business standpoint it made sense to pay Jordan whatever it took to keep him because he always made more for you than you were ever allowed to pay him.
Also, there is the whole owners want to win thing.
is an instantly regrettable deal for the Bucks.
Like the Teague signing for Minnesota. Gives them two or three years to keep grooming Tyus Jones, but also to compete now. It's a short-sighted thought, but if they pick up Millsap too, why can't they be a top four or five team out West? Teague/Wiggins/Butler/Millsap/Towns with Jones, Dieng, Muhammad off the bench. I like it.
Snell is an okay starter and 11 mil per year is ok starter money.
Guesses on what THJ is going to get? I say 5yr/80mil
Whoa Jrue Holiday looking at 5 years 126 he'd be a top six PG in salary.