I mean I need to talk about this with somebody...
OT: NBA Finals Game 6 overtime open thread
willed Miami back into this game single-handedly, then Wade came in and ruined everything. And then Tony Parker swagged out. And then LeBron, and then the missed FT, and then vintage Ray. Wow.
Lebron has gone cold. I mean, not to say that he hasn't done his part for the team tonight. But still.
went 5-6 with 12 points on their 4th quarter run, with at least 2 huge steals and a clutch block. He went ham. Then they brought in Wade and the spacing disappeared.
get over how much Wade's game has declined in the last year. It may be all injury related, or it may be because he and Lebron are as bad as a fit together as I originally thought, but he looks lost. He can't initiate his own offense and just dribbles around, afraid to do anything. i don't think he is happy with his role on the team, or for that matter really knows what that role is. I don't know his contract situation, but he looks suspiciously like a really unhappy basketball player out there.
It seemed like he saw his legacy flashing in front of his eyes and took over. Then Tony Parker gave the Spurs back that 5 point lead, and I've never seen such subtle yet utter dismay on a player's face on that timeout before they came back.
It would seem people are too busy telling themselves the NBA sucks to care about one of the greatest basketball games I've ever watched...
Edit: nvm just trigger happy
This is a great game.
The NBA still sucks.
Too busy actually watching the game
but last time I saw the game LeBron had 12 points. Can you share his stat line from the end of the third/fourth quarter?
30 points, 9 rebounds, 10 assists, 2 huge steals in the fourth, and 1 awesome block on Duncan.
Makes me regret leaving the bar, the LeBron fan I know is probably buying rounds of shots for everyone by now.
That is pretty amazing though, even as someone who doesn't watch much NBA. I'll have to get this game on ASAP.
Spurs up 5 with less than a minute and they didn't close it out. If they lose the series that's what will haunt them.
He could have iced the game with both free throws.
This game will break twitter, no matter who wins.
was strong with Ray Allen tonight.
I actually called Tony Parker Trey Burke-esque when he tied it up with that killer three with under 2 minutes and then to take the lead with that shot in the lane. Then the game went into OT, continuing the Michigan-KU game trend. Then Miami won the analogy failed. And yea, Ray Allen with yet again another clutch shot, wow.
refs have been meh both ways. ginobli elbowed lebron in the face and acted like he didn't do anything. players are playing out there.
would have gotten whatever call before he even had to consider complaining...
One amazing game. I love me some pop but not having Duncan on the floor the last two possessions in regulation killed the spurs.
I just walked in the door, what was up with that? Is he in foul trouble, or was Pop over thinking?
They were going to switch everything to prevent an open 3, which worked both times. Unfortunately for them, it totally compromised their d-rebounding.
the pacers did the same thing against Miami, taking Hibbert out of the last seconds of one game and it directly (well directly indirectly enough for me to call it directly) cost them the game
Games seem to come to inches just wow,
And then tried to give it away. That was an abysmal last 2 min of regulation from him
he completely lost it for those last two minutes (three pointer aside).
but i still think that had more to do with subbing wade back into the game. it was a tricky situation for spoelstra, but i think he should have done the hard thing and left him on the bench.
Couldn't agree more about Wade. Spoelstra needed to suck it up and keep him on the bench.
An NBA game has me on the edge of my seat? It's been a long time.
That was like an NCAA Final Four game. I like the NBA when they, you know, don't play like the NBA.
Point taken, but the NBA played like the NBA of the 80s and 90s can be viewed in my household any day. If those days are on the horizon, and the game today is somewhat returning to that, I'll someday watch the NBA on a consistent basis. Baby steps. But games like tonight are baby leaps.
The spurs will be too gassed for a game 7 its now or never!!!
this same sentiment. Even at home, this is SA's chance.
Or, hopefully, the Heat are feeling like they won already with the way this game went.
That was the good non-call that Trey needed in the NC.
Let the Spurs win. I'm on vacation and can troll for hours
I hate that they even need to review plays like that. I mean really? Was the initial conclusion that the ball jettisoned off into the stands as a delayed reaction to Danny Green toching the ball while falling backwards?
Gotta admire the Heat's determination here. Wow. Great play by Bosh.
nah no point to complain at this point...
San Antonio really gifted that one away goodness
No foul. Right
And that's why people make fun of NBA officiating. Although to be fair, the idiotic "let the players settle it," "swallow the whistle late" nonsense goes on in many sports.
that's honestly the worst (I'm not commenting here, though) way to officiate, although there are people with that mentality.
For this game, though, even without a horse in the race that was exciting. Good for Juwan Howard and any of the MGoHeat fans out there.
Fuck Seven Nation Army.
Heat fans sound like major tools when they do it. Something about the NBA atmosphere and that song just don't work together for me.
was that all ball?
Hey David.....we got you the game 7 you wanted!
Thanks Joey-good work as always
he knew exactly what he was doing by having joey officiate this game.
Stern's has to be jizzing in his pants now. Game 7's ratings are probably going to be the highest for the finals in years.
Manu Ginobli is trash. He single handedly cost the spurs this game
It is a team game. Also he made significant contributions in Game 5 which, had the Spurs lost, would have almost assured a series defeat. Most teams I would be concerned with this result but the Spurs have a mulligan and can very well still win this.
Tip of the cap to the Heat but there's still a game left to leave it all on the hardwood.
I agree, but 8 TOs and 9 points (almost a double double :P)
None of what you said makes my statement untrue. Sure he had a good game 5. The only good game he has had of the entire playoffs. This, however, was game 6.
He constantly drove out of control (when doesn't he) and realized too late he was in trouble then threw a lazy high arching pass to the center of the floor that was either stolen or put a teammate in a difficult position. This happened numerous times down the stretch and it killed the Spurs.
Also for further evidence that he was terrible. His +/- was -21 by far the worst in the game.
Pop had three serious brain cramps. Two times in regulation not having Tim in there cost two rebounds leading to two three pointers. Last time in ot not calling the to with 8 sec.
Make your freethrows and never leave it in the hands of the officials.
The NBA is horrible with all the shitty calls (and no-calls) both ways, players crying (coaches too) and flopping. Hard to respect this when we just witnessed some truly great ball in the NCAA tournament this year...
Lol. NEWS FLASH: There is bad officiating in ALL sports/games. And people complain about them in every thread associated with said sport/game. I happen to think that while the game, passion, competitiveness can't compare to March, the officiating is much better in the NBA. While there may be a few times where you find yourself saying, "THAT was a foul." they tend to let a lot more of the physical play go. There is/was nothing worse than watching touchy call after touchy call in our games this year, only to be even more infuriated when they let some blatant foul go. Consistency is the main thing I look for, and watching ALL of the NBA playoffs, I can honeslty say, the NBA is more consistent with their calls.
But that was a foul on Allen on Manu's last drive, and a foul on Bosh on Green's last 3 attempt.
That being said, I don't really care which team wins, I'm just glad for an incredible game and a Game 7 coming up.
on manu in a more logical world.
Ray Allen had already committed the foul by that point. The second Manu broke toward the rim Allen basically hugged him and prevented him from dribbling which is what caused the "travel."
I'd put it all on Miami. unfortunately i have something much more valuable on spurs. fuqqq
That shot Ray hit to send it to overtime was huge! I don't really care who wis, but game 7's are the best when it's not your team involved
What about when you hate the Heat and are a Cavs fan. Funny thing is that I think I can't stand Chalmers, Wade, Bosh, Anderson, Allen, Miller, Battier and even Haslem more than LeBron.
Cheer for the Spurs and wait for that super team you guys are slowly building get Lebron back and win them like he should have without the big 3
I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but between the NHL and the NBA, it's hard to say which one could be actually manipulating the games to force all of these game 7's.
Oh David Stern is crooked as hell. This ones rigged cause he is retiring
Spurs end of game offense was awful. Referees choked on their whistles at the end of the game.
on the last play of the game, you are allowed to body-check a 3-point shooter off the court and it isn't a foul. Convenient.
That being said, all the Spurs had to do was hit their free-throws in regulation and the game was over.
did the people here saying the refs gave it to miami even watch the game? or are you just truly dedicated heat-haters?
Seriously - the Heat got beyond srewed on calls for 3 quarters. Granted, the refs made up for it later . . . but with perfect officiating, the Heat might have won that by 6 or 8 in regulation.
One of the greatest games in NBA history.
I can't see how the Spurs bounce back from this, emotionally, or physcially.
Duncan looked absolutely shot in the 4th quarter and OT. He played 44 minutes. Parker also looked drained, Manu looks like a fork needs to be stuck in him, and now they have only 1 day off.
It's going to be tough. I think Duncan had one more great Finals performance in him, and that was it.
Like basketball needs more than a day off between games..
In NBA history??
I thought the officiating through 3 quarters probably favored the Spurs. But not by as much as crybaby James wanted you to think it did.
The 3rd quarter was a complete joke, in favor of San Antonio. Of course, they fixed it after that
I've hated LeBron ever since he gotten into the league...one of those pure "haterade" hates--I'm a Lakers fan and more or less a Kobe fan, and I reveled in LeBron's failures. But now that my more juvenile feelings have subsided, I want to like LeBron and have LeBron be better than MJ, if only to say I was there when the greatest player in the history of basketball took over.
But I've never seen such a dominating player disappear for such long stretches. For better or worse MJ, Kobe, Bird, Magic, Wilt would have asserted themselves in every part of the Finals. LeBron is one of the most complicated players--he does everything, but sometimes he does nothing. It's crazy to me.
I don't think a super star has ever been as criticized as LeBron. He had a triple double and people are talking about him in a negative light. That would have never happened to MJ and that's just the world we live in. No player has ever been perfect for all 48mins and yet they expect it every night from LeBron.
People just need to stop hating on Lebron and realize that what he can do is unique and may never be done again in your lifetime. If u can't enjoy what he can do than you just don't like basketball.
When you call yourself the King since high school it's easy to take shots at you.
People remember MJ with rose colored glasses. The man was great, but he was also human. He had bad games, missed shots, etc. just like every other player. Its the same way as when we think of Charles Woodson, we probably don't remember a single completion against him. Or in a few years, we won't think of all the times Trey Burke missed those step back jumpers, we'll just remember the huge ones he hit.
Point being, when his career is done, people will only remember the times when Lebron looked like he could do whatever he wanted out there to dominate a basketball game, and not the times when he couldn't knock down an open 15 foot jumper for three quarters of a finals game.
what blasphemy is this? Charles Woodson never had a pass completed against him, never missed a tackle and only returned one punt in his career (which he took for a touchdown).
you have your history and I have mine.
was certainly not perfect but he always impacted the game when he was in, usually in a positive way, every so often in a negative way, but he never just hid out and let long portions of the game go by without asserting his influnece. I think the issue that people have with Lebron at times is that there are stretches when he is content to be just another player. He is not "letting the game come to him" or any other such applicable phrase, he is simply idling. I do see that with him.
Yep that's the most plausible explanation. Not amazing court vision or realizing he can't do it himself.
Lebron is a better passer and rebounder than MJ. And my issue with people saying that they don't like Lebron bc he is cocky and arrogant are bc u obviously forget what MJ was like. Lebron is a much better person from most accounts than MJ ever could be. MJ is like an alcoholic, gambling addict and yet everyone only thinks about how he was on the court. The worst thing Lebron has ever done was change teams to try and give himself a chance to win. It was a change that any player would have made
good ol school WWF match. The bad guy is winning the entire match, until right at the end, the good guy roars back and pulls it out. Good job NBA. The Spurs should have won this one. They are officially done.
People pick out an individual play and say a team was robbed, or the refs handed them the game. If thats the case i want a foul call on the Ray Allen 3. He made it and should have been a 4 point play.
Fouls were missed on both sides, just like every other game in these finals. Just like every other game in these playoffs.
Whoever closed out on Allen fouled him. I believe it was Parker. When someone shoots a jump shot you have to give them the space to come down. They have been pulling that Bruce Bowen crap all series. Running under guys while they are up in the air. That's how you roll an ankle.
So basically under this premise Shane Battier shouldn't even bother showing up for game 7.
Go Heat! I want LeBron to get more Championships! And NBA Finals MVP's. My love for the Heat is two-fold. 1. I love LBJ. 2. I want all the Heat/LBJ-haters to have to see him win back-to-back Chips. That would really sting all those Chicago/LA/Boston/Cleveland fans.
the spurs had this game. if they could have just done one thing almost 5 different times they could have won. if they would have rebounded the ball the two times lebron missed threes they could have won. if the spurs make there free throws at the end they win. they had it right in front of them and they blew it
I thought the biggest mistake they made was not giving Duncan enough touches in the second half, though the Heat probably did something defensively to cut that off that Zach Lowe will explain in grantland later today.
The comments about the refs are getting old. Coach Pop thought the Heat fouled Manu in the last minute of overtime... but he didn't see the refs left Manu get away with 4 steps without a travel called.
The Heat win game 7 by 10 points. The Spurs, especially Tim Duncan, put everything they had into game 6. They know they had the game won. Not sure how they can be ready physically and emotionally for game 7.
Sorry if the link is crappy, but please look at this stupid article
The idiots at ESPN are calling this "The No Headband Game," obviously trying to bring up more comparisons with Jordan (The Flu Game) but this is just plain ridiculous. This is why we watch B1G Network
Ray Allen for saving him. Lbj has been turning over the ball at clutch times at the end of the playoff games, not like him.
Mentioned a ton, but the fact Pop did not have Duncan in for a rebound near the end was plain stupid IMO. He had no rebounding. Add that to missed free throws and that is why they lost, forget about the officiating.