I know that the popularity of the NBA is not so high on this board. However tonights a big game involiving one of the most consistent small market teams of any league of all time. The Spurs look to go up 3-1 and put the Heat in a stranglehold. After tuesdays crazy barrage of 3's, I wouldn't put it past them. Miami needs a win here, and if they lose there's going to be a ton of LeBron talk. Should be a great game!
OT: NBA Finals Game 4 Open Thread
LeBron goes off.
Heat haven't lost back to back games since early January. I don't expect tonight to be any different especially since Parker is a little gimpy with his hamstring.
That is kind of bullshit though. A severe muscle cramp is far more debilitating than a minor break of a bone.
I've seen Rich Franklin straight KO Chuck "Iceman" Liddell with a broken arm, and Floyd Mayweather breaks one of his hands in almost every single fight and it never prevents him from dominating.
If your leg or arm completely locks up it's absolutely worthless.
a leg is weight-bearing.
I'm pretty sure Rich Franklin's arm was bearing a great deal of weight as it smashed into Chuck Liddell's face as Chuck was charging forward. Rich also knew his arm was broken in between rounds, and still threw that punch anyway. It was complete (I don't know the medical term but he said it was "clean through") fracture of the ulna. Rich said he shook his arm and could feel it "loose" inside of him.
Someone didn't make it to the impulse/momentum lectures in mechanics.
If the broken bone is in the load path, then it sees a very high stress. We're not talking about creep over time, which is the time dependent deformation under stress.
Are you waiting for someone to acknowledge that people generally differentiate between the words "weight" and "loading"?
The comment was made in jest.
Seriously, though...what that hockey dude did was tough, but it's rainbows and lollypops compared to KOing one of the greatest fighters of all time with a completely fractured bone in your arm. Throwing a punch full force while the dude is running at you beats gingerly skating on the ice, not really doing anything, by a landslide. If after breaking his leg, Campbell stole the puck, beat out 2 defenders down the ice and scored a goal while getting knocked down, then it would be equivalent.
What was Campbell's option? They weren't going to stop the play for him and he basically just stood there until Pittsburgh gave the puck away. Tough? Sure. I just don't get the graphic because there was literally nothing else he could have done.
He could have skated for the bench right away. He got his stick on a pass too so he wasn't just standing there.
No one does that in that situation. It just doesn't work like that. By "he basically just stood there" I meant he didn't move in location (which is absolutely accurate). You (or anyone else) can "just stand there" and still move your arms. You didn't seriously think I meant he stood there like a mannequin, did you?
You're right that no player would skate off in that situation or just lay on the ice. Hockey players are tough and accountable to their teammates. Saying he is just standing there isn't recognizing how much effort it took just to get up and wave his stick around. The picture is comparing hockey to basketball in terms of toughness.
LeBron is known for being indestructable, and was clearly in a great deal of pain. On the play where he injured himself, you could see his leg just give out on him and lock up. He hung on, came back, and hit maybe the clutchest shot of his entire career, and it was basically the finals clinching bucket (in terms of momentum) with that long, dagger three. So it wasn't like he didn't come back into the game. He basically came back and won them the game.
You can insult LeBron for a lot of things, but his physical toughness has never been one of them.
He was in some pain.
You also have to keep in mind LeBron's value to the Heat and the NBA is probably the equivalent of the entire Boston Bruins organization.
Essentially, there is nothing equivalent about these two situations.
I know for a fact that Brady Hoke doesn't like basketball. Looks like you're going to need a new avatar.
Hah. Also, (just to bring this back to Michigan related stuff) if anyone should be criticized, it's the Bruins for not bing outstanding teammates like Juwan Howard, who immediately rushes to help an injured comrade off the floor.
And you have even more
You have a lot of time on your hands.
Howard cannot carry LeBron...
Come On You Spurs!
(But actually though. Go Spurs)
LeBron was ice cold last night and not as assertive as he normally is. You will see a different LeBron tonight, an angry LeBron. He's going to have a great game and will carry the Heat to a W to even up the series.
The Spurs will not shoot lights out like they did last game and with Parker injured, he won't be as much of a problem.
Especially since they didn't play last night
Also, go Spurs
Go Spurs. Though I highly doubt the rainstorm of three's will happen again and I think the Heat will have a bit of a better game than the second half of last Tuesday's game, ergo, I half expect the Heat to win this one. I'm not sold on that whole back-to-back losses statistic; I think they win for quite a few reasons more than that stat.
Then again they could have made 11 less 3s and still won. (Obviously, the game would have played out differently)
Can't compare to the college game. March Madness vs. NBA Finals? No contest!
The arm is part of the ball now!
I meant Tuesday night.
Mainbar: Go Spurs. Count me among "the haters."
Sidebar: An open NBA Finals thread on the MGoBoard an hour and ten minutes before tip off yet only two people make mention on the board of the triple over time NHL finals game last night? I don't even know anymore.
95% of the hockey fans on this board (justifiably or not) stopped paying attention to hockey after the Wings lost. I don't really blame them. It's rather painful to watch a team that your team had all but dead probably win the Cup.
I turned the game off for like two hours in addition, in case the apathy wasn't clear there either. I will say last night's game was good enough to make tomorrow something to get excited about, though. Say what you will about either team, that's just good hockey right there.
Mainbar, I could go either way. Got a fraternity brother I'm close to that's a big Spurs fan, but Howard getting another ring (even playing like three minutes in the series) would be a cool story line.
Miscellaneous stats going through today in the playoffs (all rounds):
Offensive rating: 109.5
Defensive rating: 99.1
Pace: about 89 possesions per game
Effective FG%: 51.2%
Off. Reb. %: 23.5%
Offensive rating: 110.3
Defensive rating: 102.4
Pace: about 86 possesions per game
Effective FG%: 51.7%
Off. Reb. %: 25.2%
San Antonio's troll job of racist fans with the national anthem.
I'm not watching. What'd they do?
Brought back Sebastian De La Cruz to sing the National anthem after all the racist tweets from game three. The kid and the Spurs handled it amazingly. He's a natural born citizen and his father is a Navy man.
Spurs in 5.
That pipe dream just burst.
I'm drinking my avatar. Just thought you all should know.
Spurs have gotta finish these chances around the rim.
I am enjoying this series and I have to say people who are hating on the NBA right now aren't watching it.
Heat are such an enigma. Game 3 they just looked completely lost. This game they look like the team that won 27 straight.
It's amazing that out of 5 trips to the Finals this the first time the Spurs have faced the one seed out of the East. Just as amazing if the Spurs win the title the MVP might be Danny Green.
I'm not old school and I hoop on a regular basis, but honestly when did a travel go from two steps to four. Guys glide from the three point line to the bucket with four steps.
Should be a question, but I'm so baffled that now it's a statement.
5 steps if you do a spin move during the motion
I've heard it called a Euro-Step!
I've heard what it's called but it should have been left in Europe. I see it all the time but its hardly fair when you can glide Twenty five feet without dribbling. I see slower people use it all the time and its ugly.
You get 2 1/2 steps. That's how they've always called it. The half step to gather yourself doesn't count, and is part of the reason for so much confusion with the NBA rules. People counting 3 steps, but it's not traveling.
Well, Wade and Bosh finally decided to join the party. If they play like this the rest of the series, it's over.
I haven't watched much basketball in the last few years, but has Genobli really declined this much? Or is this just a one-off performance.
He has declined
He's 35 and all of those nagging injuries eventually add up.