OT - National Championship Game "What If"
What if Alabama beats LSU 9-6 or 10-9 in overtime of the National Championship game...what happens?
I know obviously Alabama "wins" the national championship.
But do we get a situation where some voters keep LSU #1? How would you feel should this happen? Both teams basically winning on the road in close/low scoring games.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:42 PM ^
...they had a playoff so there wasn't any doubt?
December 4th, 2011 at 9:46 PM ^
What if LSU was crowned national champs tonight and all the bowl games were simply one game exhibitions?
December 4th, 2011 at 9:47 PM ^
Edit: not a reply to your post, I hit the wrong reply button.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:04 PM ^
In a multi-tier playoff, if the higher ranked team loses to the lower ranked team, the lower ranked team wins that round and advances. Doesn't matter whether the victory was in achieved in extremely unusual circumstances. Doesn't matter the ranking disparity of the two teams. Doesn't matter if the higher rated team had beaten the lower rated team previously that season. So, while the issue the OP refers is not solved with a multi-tier playoff folks are generally accepting of this.
The 1 game/2 team NCG is a weird form of a playoff, so I don't get why folks wouldn't accept that the lower ranked team could win and be crowned champion. It doesn't matter how you get to the championship game. It just matters if you win that game.
December 4th, 2011 at 11:14 PM ^
If they had a playoff most likely these teams would meet in the final. So if his scenerio happened where Alabama won super close then the playoff would give us the same result as the BCS. 1-1 record of LSU vs Alabama.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:10 PM ^
I was thinking the same thing. 'Bama wins the MNC. Some will go for a split MNC, but the fact is the last man standing wins. Sparty learned that yesterday.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:45 PM ^
You are a thread starting machine!
December 5th, 2011 at 8:06 AM ^
Just don't ask him about the bulldog...
December 4th, 2011 at 9:45 PM ^
If I watched such a game, I could only tell you that I would be asleep by halftime.
In any event, it would provide more evidence that the BCS is a horific tragedy, and if voters still kept LSU at #1 despite a loss in the NCG, it would show that, among Miles' other talents, is the art of hypnotizing the media.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:45 PM ^
There is no split. Coaches have to vote for the winner of that game. If its 153-2 or 2-0. AP is dead.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:47 PM ^
The voters are obligated to vote for the winner. At best, you could get them an AP national championship, but what is that really worth.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:58 PM ^
Hey! Careful there.
December 4th, 2011 at 11:04 PM ^
It would be worth half of the MNC
December 4th, 2011 at 11:10 PM ^
Just ask the 1997 Michigan football team.
December 5th, 2011 at 1:23 AM ^
What is an AP national championship worth in the BCS era though. No one really considers USC the champs
December 4th, 2011 at 9:47 PM ^
Or what if it's 13-5 or 7-6 or better yet 12-11? What then? What happens if the score is 21-20 but then 24-23 but ends up 31-30? I'd be like, damn...what now?
December 4th, 2011 at 9:47 PM ^
I believe that the human polls that the BCS utilizes require them to vote the winner of the title game #1 in the final poll. This is why the AP broke off and can choose to vote OSU or LSU #1, if Alabama were to win.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:06 PM ^
Not entirely true, the AP broke off in 2004 after Mack Brown made HUGE amounts of lobbying and publicizing for Texas to go to the Rose Bowl over California
December 5th, 2011 at 12:59 AM ^
I thought they broke off because they realized what a sham the BCS was and didn't want to have a part of giving legitimacy to it. Or something to that effect.
If nothing else, the fact that there is a rematch between Alabama and LSU confirms that. This makes the umpteenth time that a team that couldn't even win its conference finds itself in the National Championship game. Hell, this team couldn't even win its division. And it shows just how enamored the various folks are with a conference that flouts the rules. Of course they are going to be heads and shoulders above the competition.
So I'll watch the Michigan game...probably the Sparty game but I'm not going to watch the "Championship". And I'd put money down that Alabama will win.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:57 PM ^
What if the moon were made of barbeque spare ribs, would you eat it then? I know I would. Heck, I'd have seconds. Then polish it off with a tall cool Budweiser.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:19 PM ^
December 4th, 2011 at 10:44 PM ^
funny.
December 4th, 2011 at 11:07 PM ^
I was with you until "Budweiser". I don't do that to myself
December 4th, 2011 at 9:50 PM ^
that the SEC expands to a 117-team conference after the MNC game. It's the only way ESPN commentators will be appeased by the outcome of the BCS polls.
December 4th, 2011 at 9:51 PM ^
I feel like Alabama would have to win by a ridiculous score of 50-0 before I would put anybody else above LSU as #1.
LSU beat Oregon in Dallas, West Virginia in Morgantown, Alabama in Tuscaloosa, Arkansas and Georgia in Atlanta. They have one of the best resumes of any team I can think of from recent years. They have already beaten 3 of the 9 other BCS teams.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:12 PM ^
...a thousand times.
LSU already went into Alabama's stadium and beat them there.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:48 PM ^
Of had the chance to pound OSU. No other college football team in history would of had such an impressive schedule
December 5th, 2011 at 12:47 AM ^
What if 'Bama beat LSU and Okie State pounded Stanford. Any chance Okie State would get some AP votes? I think this is more likely than LSU getting votes just bc it'd be fresh in voters minds.
Edit: Sorry, similar post below
December 4th, 2011 at 9:52 PM ^
I feel that you are doing nothing more than digging yourself a 'hole!'
But I like they way you think!
Would ND automatically be included in any playoff system?
December 4th, 2011 at 10:00 PM ^
The BCS Computers will simply shut down, reboot, and ask Lee Corso if he wants to play a game of chess.
December 5th, 2011 at 12:58 PM ^
Didn't want a good movie reference to go without acknowledgement.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:02 PM ^
If they won 9-3 in overtime on a missed LSU field goal it should be a tie. That would just be rediculous.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:06 PM ^
this is why it is dumb to put alabama in there. ok state would have been much better for LSU to crush.
of course, this will all be moot when the oversigning bowl ends, and lsu has won 35-3.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:09 PM ^
What's more, if Alabama wins a sloppy, low scoring game (like the last one) and OkSt dominates Stanford, does the AP start looking at OkST as champs?
December 4th, 2011 at 11:12 PM ^
My greates hope this bowl season is that this happens. Anything that help hasten the end of the BCS makes me happy.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:18 PM ^
If Bama wins I feel like LSU totally has grounds to stay #1. They played a harder schedule and left it unscathed, and their only loss would be to #2 Alabama. Bama's schedule has been laughable this season.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:24 PM ^
I hope the AP picks LSU as the champ regardless of the outcome of the MNCG. They earned it and just because Alabama gets a rematch doesn't mean they should get the title. I think the most chaotic thing that could happen (long term) would actually be if LSU crushed Alabama like 31-10. The circular arguments for the SEC being dominant would be hilarious
December 4th, 2011 at 10:29 PM ^
they are 1-1 against LSU, with LSU winning against them at home and AL winning against LSU at a neutral site. With a stronger strength of schedule and more convincing record against 'Bama, I think it's very reasonable to put LSU first regardless of the outcome of the NCG.
This is why the rematch was a colossal fail on the part of voters.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:45 PM ^
but the game is being played in Louisiana.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:44 PM ^
they deserve the NC with no argument. I think this LSU team is one of the best teams I've seen in many years. Their 4th string RB is better than 80% of the teams 1st string and their only weakness is somewhat slow starts. I think LSU will beat them by 14 because this may as well be a home game for them.
December 4th, 2011 at 11:46 PM ^
is not good.
December 4th, 2011 at 10:58 PM ^
If LSU destroys Bama then a real shit storm starts. Especially if OK State wins.
December 4th, 2011 at 11:02 PM ^
Coaches have to vote for the winner of the BCS championship game. AP voters could still vote for LSU or OSU. I just know that I won't be watching it. I'd spend the whole game just bitching the Bama is there.
December 5th, 2011 at 9:43 AM ^
Agree with you. Let's protest the SEC NCG by not watching. Can you imagin the fallout if the NCG ratings were the lowest since the BCS started? What kind of message would that send? ESPN manipulated and pressured votes to get a SEC matchup and let's reward them by tuning out.
December 4th, 2011 at 11:04 PM ^
December 4th, 2011 at 11:33 PM ^
You cant even give Faygo an honerable mention?
December 4th, 2011 at 11:42 PM ^
What about Vernors?
December 5th, 2011 at 1:02 AM ^
They've changed the formula, I think.
December 4th, 2011 at 11:06 PM ^
More importantly, though, there is no doubt that LSU is the best team in the country. Even if Bama beats them, I still don't see how anyone can say LSU is not the overall best team in the country. The current system is flawed because it clamors for a definitive "best" team. Whereas in basketball, we all accept that the best team rarely actually wins the national title. It's interesting that one sport embraces this fact and another tries like hell to defy it. Really shows how much influence the bowl commitees have. Surely the NCAA realizes that combining March Madness with their flagship sport would make them richer than they already are.