OT: My NBA free agency predictions

Submitted by M.I.Sicks on

The LA Clippers win the LeBron sweepstakes. They despite what Bulls homers like that blogger frankthewank think, the Clips are the best fit for LeBron. With LeBron in the fold the Clips could potentially have the best starting 5 in the league. The Bulls have a nice piece with Rose but that's not enough and nothing near what LA has to offer.

PG Baron Davis

SG Eric Gordon

SF LeBron

PF Blake Griffin

C Chris Kaman

The Heat keep Wade in south beach and should be able to reel in Chris Bosh as well.

The Knicks, despite what New Yorkers and ESPN think. Nobody around the rest of the country (including most big name FAs) gives a rat's ass about the Knicks. But D'antonio (no not the one at the farm school in East Lansing. The other guy with the stache, note: if this comment is over your head please do not respond. Thank You!) should be able to reel in a couple of familiar faces that love playing in that run n gun offense of his. They land Amare and Joe Johnson.

The Bulls are left holding the bag here, They end up settling for Carlos Boozer or Jermaine O'neal. Whichever one they decide to overpay.

The Mavs are able to keep Dirk

The Cavs sign T-Mac or Haslem or something.

As for the rest of the Free Agents that are left. Who Cares?

MGoDC

July 1st, 2010 at 9:27 AM ^

Not a particularly "in-the-loop" NBA fan because I'm from DC and...well.... our best player likes to get into gun fights during halftime. Although hopefully Wall is the real deal and actually helps the franchise unlike our last #1 pick Kwame Brown. However, if you already assume the Heat resign Wade and reel in Chris Bosh, why exactly are they not a better fit for Lebron? As I understand it they actually have enough cap room for all 3 of those guys now with some recent dumpings and I fail to see how the starting 5 you just named would be a better group than Bosh, Wade, Lebron, and whoever the other 2 would be (Chalmers?...O'Neal?)

M.I.Sicks

July 1st, 2010 at 9:32 AM ^

Alot of this is based off recent news reports. The Clippers got invited to the LeBron party late. That should tell you something. Also it sounds like Wade is done trying to convince LeBron to come there. And Bosh to the Heat in a sign n trade deal sounds like it's picking up steam.

MGoDC

July 1st, 2010 at 9:52 AM ^

I disagree completely. I think Bosh and Wade along with 2 marginal talents like Chalmers and Jermaine O'Neal are significantly better than a past-his-prime Baron Davis, an unproven Blake Griffin, and two players who are good but not great in Gordon and Kaman.

Robbie Moore

July 1st, 2010 at 9:35 AM ^

Damn you, In Rod.  But any guy  who gets confused about coaches probably doesn't  know what's really going on.  FWIW, I say LeBron ends up with New Jersey/Brooklyn.  They've got a new Russian gazillionaire owner, a pretty good point guard in Jamir Nelson and a real post talent in Lopez. 

M.I.Sicks

July 1st, 2010 at 9:49 AM ^

You've never seen/heard someone call Mark Dantonio either D'antoni or D'antonio? Hell I do it almost everytime I mention his name. It's kind of a dig to act as if you don't know his name and treat him like he's nobody.

M.I.Sicks

July 1st, 2010 at 9:43 AM ^

You also noticed I used the D' infront of the antonio right? I know the difference. Just adding a little humor to it. Mike D'antoni, Mark Dantonio can get easily mixed up. It also pisses some Sparty fans off when you don't say their coach's name correctly.

Kind of like your Notre "Lame" thing in your sig. You get it?

MH20

July 1st, 2010 at 9:41 AM ^

I can't see LeBron going to the Clippers with all the negativity that constantly surrounds their dipshit owner, Donald Sterling.

JeepinBen

July 1st, 2010 at 9:48 AM ^

I dont know why anyone who can choose who to play for would play for someone with such shady/racist business practices as sterling.

Or why you would willingly go to be Second Banana in a city with such an established 1-2 dynamic in Basketball

Beavis

July 1st, 2010 at 9:53 AM ^

My Predictions:

LeBron - Chicago (2nd - Nets, 3rd - Knicks, 4th - Heat, 5th - Clippers)

Wade - Miami (lock)

Bosh - Miami (2nd - Chicago)

Amare - New York (2nd - Chicago)

Joe Johnson - Atlanta (2nd - New York, 3rd - Chicago)

Carlos Boozer will head to Miami if Bosh doesn't go there.  If that doesn't work, he might head to Chicago - or any place that will pay him max money (Nyets). 

David Lee will end up back in NYC if Amare passes - and if not - he could really go anywhere.  Same with Rudy Gay. 

(FYI I love it that the TWolves are chasing Gay when they drafted a ton of SF's, and Lee - when they have Jefferson and Love.  Also, potential for the Gay-Love era in Minny is intense.)

Double Nickel BG

July 1st, 2010 at 12:17 PM ^

Boozer will get a max deal. Boozer is a top rate #3 guy.

He sure as hell can't be a #1 option that max money is for.

Utah didn't go very far with Boozer as the #2 with Deron Williams.Although that may be more of the team after those 2 than him not being able to be a good #2.

He'll probably make #2 money, but no way in hell he gets max.

Beavis

July 1st, 2010 at 1:02 PM ^

Let's do the math here (based on an article found here: http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-freeagency-100629/cap-room…):

Teams that can offer 2 max contracts: Knicks, Heat (assuming Wade is not a done deal)

Teams that can offer 1 max contract: Nets, Bulls, Clippers, Dallas (with Dirk opting out), Atlanta

That's 9 max contracts out there at a minimum.  There could be more if teams shift money around (e.g., Bulls trade Deng, some team currently with 0 max contracts available makes a move).

Now, the guaranteed max guys (4):

Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Dirk

The "probably not worth the max, but could get it anyway" group (3):

Joe Johnson, Amare, Boozer

The third group (4):

Pierce, David Lee, Rudy Gay, Ray Allen

So, knowing that NBA GM's typically have a terrible track record when it comes to contracts (insert "player x's expiring contract" here in trade talks), you're going to tell me that the top 7 guys (including the "shouldn't get max money but will" players of Amare, Johnson, and Boozer) aren't going to all get max money when there are 7 teams and 9 spots available?

Supply and demand, man.  Boozer will get paid. 

Beavis

July 1st, 2010 at 2:27 PM ^

Thank you.

If I were a Knicks fan like you, I'd pray that Joe Johnson takes the money from Atlanta.  And I think he will (they can offer him an extra year / more money, and he's already proven that he will take money over wins - he moved from PHX to ATL a few years back). 

TheLastHarbaugh

July 1st, 2010 at 4:35 PM ^

Except PHI didn't want to resign him because they didn't want to pay him what he deserved because they were over the salary cap already, so they low balled him, ensuring that he would never sign there. It was the Suns' fault that they don't have JJ, not JJ's. 

Beavis

July 1st, 2010 at 2:26 PM ^

I never said Ray Allen, PP, etc. would get a max contract.

I was just showing the talent pool of FA's (ESPN's Chad Ford has them ranked - it's pretty similar to his).  Clearly, no way Ray Allen gets the max, but a guy like Boozer most certainly can (and probably will). 

Double Nickel BG

July 2nd, 2010 at 3:58 AM ^

I just don't see Boozer as being a Pippen to someones Jordan. I can see him as a Lamar Odom (very gifted #3 player that does alot for his team but can't be someone that carries them)

You're probably right that GMs are going to overpay him, I just don't think he's max contract worthy and should probably be in your third group. /shrug

pdgoblue25

July 1st, 2010 at 9:58 AM ^

There is absolutely NO WAY Lebron would actually get in the same building as Donald Sterling.  Personally I think Lebron is Greg Norman.  More talent than anyone, but he's so focused on everything besides basketball that he'll be a career underachiever.  Norman should have won 20 majors and he won 2.

M.I.Sicks

July 1st, 2010 at 10:07 AM ^

The Clippers sent out an e-mail message to announce that the team had scheduled a meeting with LeBron James. "We are honored to be one of the select organizations to have been invited to meet with LeBron James and his team," general manager Neil Olshey said in a statement. "At that time, we intend to present the many reasons why his joining our organization is the best possible choice he could make." Read more: http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67668/20100701/clippers_anno…

CWoodson

July 1st, 2010 at 11:49 AM ^

Read as: "We are such a pathetic organization that we're honored to sit down and have lunch with a guy who wouldn't play for us in a million years."

The Knicks owner is a completely incompetent fool, but at least he's not a racist.  LeBron would be insane to go play for a franchise that makes the Knicks look like the Celtics.

emGeauxBleu

July 1st, 2010 at 10:08 AM ^

of this Lebron free agency stuff. As soon as he got knocked out of the playoffs espn.com had an entire page dedicated to him, with a countdown to free agency. Complety unnecessary. We're gonna start hearing the Brett Favre stories too. GAH. I hate it.

Beavis

July 1st, 2010 at 10:18 AM ^

As you can probably tell from even the activity on this board, aside from the World Cup - the sports world is not exactly booming with stories right now.

And, this is a pretty big deal for the NBA.  It's not just Lebron - it's Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Dirk, JJohnson, Amare, Boozer, Gay, etc.  The best free agent pool in the NBA since I can remember. 

Also, the Favre thing has happened each of the past years.  It's tired and old.  The "Summer of Lebron" is a one time only thing. 

MGoDC

July 1st, 2010 at 10:23 AM ^

Yet, as the ESPN SportsCenter introduction to their free agency show proves, reporters have been asking Lebron questions about his free agency since at least 2008. So at some point it gets tiring and old even if its a "one-time-only" event.

emGeauxBleu

July 1st, 2010 at 10:27 AM ^

It's a huge deal for the NBA, with all those free agents moving around and stuff, but ESPN insists on riding the Lebron band wagon (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/feature/index?page=LeBron-Tracker). A Lebron Tracker? Really ESPN? If they were a true sports network, then talk about all the free agents the same amount, or a little more evenly, and don't concentrate on what will get you the most ratings or hits on their site.

Gold_Rush

July 1st, 2010 at 10:11 AM ^

It seems that everyone is forgetting the fact that there is a good chance Lebron stays in Cleveland. They have a good owner who will (at some point) bring in talent to surround Lebron. I think he is too attached to the worst state ever to leave.

As for the rest:

Wade/Bosh: Miami

Joe Johnson: Atlanta

Amare: Knicks

Boozer: Bulls

Dirk: Dallas

wishitwas97

July 1st, 2010 at 12:38 PM ^

that LBJ isn't coming back to Cleveland.  They don't have much cap space and the talent surrounding him isn't as good as the potential suitors like the Bulls or the Nets(granted that they were the worst team in the NBA but they have good young talent like Lopez).  Plus Izzo decided to come back which tells me all I need to know.

bronxblue

July 1st, 2010 at 12:49 PM ^

Listen, when you can sign a key player from a team that was swept from the playoffs by an aggregate of 101 points and quit on its coach, especially to a max deal when nobody else would come close to that money, you have to do it.

TheLastHarbaugh

July 1st, 2010 at 10:42 AM ^

I will eat my face if LeBron signs with Donald Sterling. It will never happen.

That being said...

Chicago - LBJ and Bosh

Miami - Boozer, Wade and Joe Johnson

NY - J.J. Redick and Amare (They will panic about being shut out of the FA market and offer him a max deal)

Dallas - Dirk

Sac Fly

July 1st, 2010 at 10:42 AM ^

... the bulls traded hinrich it gave them 30 million in cap  space, that means the bulls can offer lebron derrick rose, noah, and another big time free agent like bosh. same thing with miami, they can do the same thing. now why would he go to the clippers? davis/gordan/griffin/kamen are role players not stars, and their not better than gibson/williams/west/varejao/jamison, he will go back to cleveland before he goes to LA

msoccer10

July 1st, 2010 at 11:37 AM ^

The Clippers with that lineup wouldn't even have the best starting 5 in LA.

Fisher, Bryant, Artest or Odoms, Gasol, Bynum are better.

The ownership and the fact you have to compete with the Lakers make the Clippers a poor choice in my opinion. I think Miami, Chicago, Cleveland or New Jersey/Brooklyn make more sense.

Flying Dutchman

July 1st, 2010 at 12:00 PM ^

LeBron and a power forward to the Bulls.    Bosh is the 1st option, Boozer the 2nd, and David Lee the 3rd.    Maybe Amare.

LeBron's 2nd most likely move is probably the Nets/Nyets.

Wade stays put.  If Bosh doesn't go to the Bulls, he joins Wade with the Heat.  If Bosh sticks with the Bulls, Boozer becomes the target for the Heat.

Joe Johnson is definitely staying put with that $119MM just offered that nobody can match.   So that kills the Johnson-Stoudemire to the Knicks deal.   I think NY Knicks are still the first choice for Soudemire either way.

David Lee and Rudy Gay are a couple nice wildcards out there.   Also, Paul Pierce just declined his player option and is in the mix.  I don't think he leaves Boston though.

Blue Ninja

July 1st, 2010 at 12:16 PM ^

Lebron to the Clips? You need to step away from the bong. Sure he is going to meet with the, FA's typically will meet with any team interested in them if for nothing else than leverage against the teams they would like to sign with.

Siiiiingler

July 1st, 2010 at 12:29 PM ^

making the decision between a $119M contract and a say $90 M contract.  How do you even notice the difference? Once you get to a point where you have so much money, isn't there some threshold where more money no longer makes you happy and you just want to be content, love people and live life? The marginal utility of money just goes downhill.

At least, that's how it seems it would be to my regular civilian-eyes.

That said....

- if I were LeBron, I'd go to New York, since I would Lebron and LeBron is a showman. There are no brighter  lights

- if I were Amare or Joe Johnson, I'd also go New York, given D'Antoni's style and the other star coming

- if I were DWade, I'd have a tough, tough choice between Miami and hometown Chicago

- if I were Bosh or Boozer, I'd try to join DWade or LeBron, wherever that would be

Beavis

July 1st, 2010 at 1:10 PM ^

The argument you make about money makes sense in theory, but in practice it will NEVER work. 

On an NBA level:

1) Guys with nine figure pay days have gone broke (see: Latrell Sprewell, Antoine Walker, Allen Iverson, etc.) - so just by NBA standards - $100M is not enough to say you are financially set for the rest of your life (it is sad, I know, but it happens)

2) Related to #1 - these guys have large "families" with tons of people asking for money and investments in business ideas (I'd say about 50% of 'star' athletes have some sort of investment in a restaurant or bar somewhere). 

3) Beyond the family piece - these guys have an entourage they have to support (even if it is just an agent, a manager, an accountant, and a PR guy - that's still food they are putting on the table for business-related friends).

And then you could look at the entire macro environment and quickly come to the conclusion that people just don't turn down more money.  Does Warren Buffett stop doing due diligence on companies he is purchasing just because he already has a ton of cash?  No.  Does Steve Jobs quit Apple when he's got some serious health issues?  No.