OT- Munchak out as Titans Head Coach

Submitted by UM Fan in Nashville on

There's another NFL opening.   This could have a lot of implications with PSU as well as other colleges with the NFL calling Stoops, Franklin, etc.   It would be pretty funny to see Franklin leave Vandy to take over the Titans, even though that seems unlikely.   

What say you?   Munchak to PSU as HC, or even a coordinator?  

http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-1/Titans-Statement-from-GM-Ruston-Webster/92fda373-b54c-4708-bdbc-a4348cf3adc7

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January 4th, 2014 at 3:39 PM ^

I was curious if the delayed announcement of Golden and the delay in the Titans decision was somehow related.  This was just after the AD said they could announce a hire within days (which was days ago).  

I know they have their feelers out there for another PSU guy, but it just seems strange with the delays.  Was Munchak their first choice and waited to see what the Titans were going to do.  If the Titans held on to Munchak, they call Golden?  Or vice versa?  

If PSU picks up Munchak, look out for a stellar OL from them. 

 

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massblue

January 4th, 2014 at 3:54 PM ^

Couple of success stories with Harbaugh and Kelly and suddenly college coaches are hot commodities with NFL guys.  On the other hand we have some success stories about NFL guys going back to college (Mora and O'Brien) and suddenly colleges are interested in NFL guys. 

 

I think hiring NFL guys for colleges is riskier because recruiting is so important and you will never know what kind of recruiter you are getting.

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LSAClassOf2000

January 4th, 2014 at 4:59 PM ^

I would also count Pete Carroll, Tom Coughlin and Jimmy Johnson as successful college-to-NFL transitions as well, and I am sure this is not a comprehensive list. I would think that the fact that this transition is being made with a little more frequency and a little more success is probably what makes more teams look to the college ranks, especially coaches that had success at big-time programs. Going in the other direction, there are several college coaches that were also at least assistants on NFL squads - David Shaw and Bo Pelini, for example - and I would think that colleges look at this as experience in developing talent, though I could be mistaken. 

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Danwillhor

January 4th, 2014 at 3:59 PM ^

I think psu would want to stay away from someone still so directly involved with the recent Paterno coaching tree/lineage. Golden seems like the most obvious choice but that is why I think they would take him but don't necessarily want him above others. I'd assume MM is now the top candidate given ties but so far back. Franklin possibly? I just think it's crazy how some schools can be or be in a tire fire and get interest in big name guys while others can merely be in a slump and are treated as toxic waste. When Schiano flat turned us down years ago I accidentally frightened co-workers by audibly semi-yelling "you've gotta be kidding me!" in near silence. Speaking of Greg, I'd assume he's another guy psu is looking hard at.

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Danwillhor

January 4th, 2014 at 4:46 PM ^

but it's not just UM. However, in our case I think we're or own worse enemy. We had and then solidified the reputation that people outside the Bo lineage are outsiders who won't be accepted without immediate success (and that's assuming). Of all the talent out there with UM ties, we've driven them all away. Not a huge fan of Miles personally but I think of UM by proxy whenever he lands top recruits, wins big games, etc. I wonder if people even know his UM connection. Jim Harbaugh is kind if the same. We slighted him so many times (some say with good or warranted reasons at the time by way of drinking or attitude) that he clearly loves Bo but has major spite toward UM. Yet, how many better football minds are there at any level? Jim, in college, is every bit the coach/recruiter/developer that Saban is and we made it to where he wouldn't coach here if we begged and his wife wanted to move East. John? Maybe John will one day tire of the NFL but I doubt it. SB coaches rarely (never) go down to college. I could go on but it seems like there is a HUGE disconnect between the great UM minds of the 80's-Moeller years and now. I love him as a human being but I sometimes think Carr is too self righteous for UM's good.

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Mr Miggle

January 4th, 2014 at 5:09 PM ^

So the reports that he accepted the job, called a team meeting to inform his players, changed his mind after talking to them, then changed his mind again and tried to accept the previous offer are total BS?

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Danwillhor

January 4th, 2014 at 5:33 PM ^

He was offered by our "panel" and he gave us a clean and clear "no thanks". I even heard it was after some advice about how UM won't internally accept a guy outside the Bo lineage. I could be wrong! I admit that but at no point have I ever heard that he accepted the job, told his players, changed his mind, changed it again and was turned down by us or too late or whatever you wrote (truly no offense). All I've ever heard was "you want the job?" "Let me think....less than a day.....no thanks". haha

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Danwillhor

January 5th, 2014 at 9:27 AM ^

I remember him hating the potential hire before and the eventual hire. Then we ask loved him due to recruiting and the while BCS win year one thing. The collective love continued year two due to recruiting and all but one loss coming from a top 5 team in gangs we were in aside from Bama. This year was honestly a train wreck. Recruiting started great again but then we trotted out a team so poor I truly think Hoke only has such internal support due to not being "an outsider" and Peppers. Take away possibly the best pure HS player in the nation, change history do that Hoke never coached here and he'd be fired after this past year. Good for him, "his guys" are no longer young to the point of excuse for such poor play. Truly, retaining Borges may cost him his "dream job". How sad because if the recruiting trend continues (I mean the overall feel/trend since mid-season), he doesn't have a Peppers next year and we play the same? Gone. I thought he'd get 5 years no matter what. Another year like 2013 and we better hope Miles is sick if the SEC, Jim is unhappy in SF and family will move and bad blood can be fixed (lol) or this program will have to truly get over the Bo lineage "no outsiders welcome" mentality. I dislike the spread but like a "multi-pro" system so getting rid of Rich didn't bother me too much. I'm a sucker for 90's style offense where 4 WRs was exotic, lol. I'm just at the point where I want a winner who isn't a scumbag. He can be a D2 guy, lol. Just win. Just do the obvious things all good coaches do, coaches we used to have. IMO, firing Moeller was when the iceberg first touched the titanic. We sunk under our last coach. Can this coach do what is necessary to build that next giant ship? If not, is the AD willing to hire the best guy available, potentially accepting and supporting a guy with zero UM ties? 2014 will be crucial and the schedule is not helping us.

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Danwillhor

January 5th, 2014 at 3:41 AM ^

Always heard the opposite. Even in AA. Harbaugh? If always read/heard that he wanted to be our QB coach and Carr hired Scott instead. a slight given one was a younger bust QB recruit and the other a famous UM/NFL QB. I heard the reason was attitude in general and Jim drinking a bit at the time. I'm serious when I say thank you as if always heard he thought about it for less than a day before declining on bad word of mouth.

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Mr Miggle

January 5th, 2014 at 11:27 AM ^

There's always a lot of rumor and speculation surrounding these coaching searches since solid information is hard to come by. I don't think Jim Harbaugh is so petty as to let a perceived slight by Carr keep him away from Michigan. Especially when he would acknowledge that he has turned his life around since then. My opinion is that except for the 49ers job opening up, he would have been our coach.

Looking at the PSU job, do we know if some of the names bandied about really want it? I would be surprised if Franklin does. If PSU lands Munchak we could say they were only able to attract an out of work former player. Alternatively we could say that an NFL coach forced his team to fire him because he wanted the job and PSU could have had Golden, Franklin, Schiano if they preferred.

I will say that O'Brien would never have even gotten an interview without the scandal. His leaving after two years is an illustration of why schools prefer to hire coaches with some connection to the school, or at least the area.

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Sopwith

January 4th, 2014 at 4:27 PM ^

seems to indicate he'd be welcome with open arms in State College.  They want someone who's Penn St. through and through.  It's a disease known to those on this board as "Michigan Man Syndrome".  

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UMgradMSUdad

January 6th, 2014 at 12:33 AM ^

Not all the fanbase seems enamoured with him.  On BSD there are quite a few that point out his coaching record in the NFL is mediocre at best, and he has zero experience recruiting or coaching at the college level. He's certainly no rising star with substantial collegiate experience like BOB was when he was hired.

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KC Wolve

January 4th, 2014 at 4:33 PM ^

Just crazy that he has been with them his entire playing and coaching career. Scroll said he was drafted in1982. That is pretty amazing.

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