OT: More Rumored Turmoil at Texas
http://college-football.si.com/2013/09/13/report-texas-deloss-dodds/?sc…
AD DeLoss Dodds is rumored to be retiring.
September 13th, 2013 at 5:06 PM ^
Texas appears to be what people in my neck in the woods would call "deep doodoo".
September 13th, 2013 at 5:07 PM ^
Dollars to donuts Texas is going to clean house and start fresh in the offseason. Where it could get interesting is the Texas fans want their team to bring in a AA++ coach... Nick Saban and Urban Meyer's names have come up. Sounds like a pipe dream, but if any one school has the cash to pull a move like that off, it's Texas.
September 13th, 2013 at 5:30 PM ^
You really have to have more than money to pull an elite coach to your school. Now, I know that Texas is a big time program and would have a good shot at the best available coach, or a hot up and comer, but coaches like Meyer and Saban aren't going to leave programs they have up and running for Texas - it just isn't a better job right now, and it's in a crappy conference.
September 13th, 2013 at 5:49 PM ^
September 13th, 2013 at 6:36 PM ^
For the most part I agree with you, though for the top coaches UT won't be able to triple their salary like in your example. Even if Texas offered either of those guys 5 or 6 mil, Bama or OSU would match it, or at least come close. Realistically, OSU has everything Texas has outside of the academics, and I doubt Urban cares a whole lot about that, plus he's from Ohio. And I'm sure Saban won't leave the train he has rolling to go to Texas that is 3 years away from contention at best.
September 13th, 2013 at 6:44 PM ^
I agree about Meyer, but not as much with Saban. He seems like he gets bored or something, always has something to prove. Not saying he'd leave, but I think it's at least a real possibility.
September 13th, 2013 at 6:49 PM ^
Yeah, that kind of stuff makes it harder to predict - when people take a position that isn't necessarily a better job by normal metrics but they do so because it presents a new challege. Maybe Saban would do something like that. I agree that it's still unlikely.
September 13th, 2013 at 9:59 PM ^
Saban never gets bored because robots don't register emotion.
September 13th, 2013 at 6:48 PM ^
If the Alabama accusations turn out to have substance in the eyes of the NCAA, Saban might say FTS and take a job elsewhere. He knows the boosters can buy just as good a team at Texas as they do at Bama.
September 13th, 2013 at 6:54 PM ^
Saban has rhe rider in his contract that says he HAS to be the highest paid coach in college, so if Texas pays anyone more than what he's currently making, he gets a raise without going anywhere
September 13th, 2013 at 11:16 PM ^
September 14th, 2013 at 3:29 AM ^
hahahaha.
+1 Funny.
September 13th, 2013 at 9:04 PM ^
I agree about Meyer, though who knows given his penchant for ducking out of programs at times. As for Saban, he built Alabama back up and might not mind a reclamation project like Texas, especially if anything of substance comes up about from those Yahoo! stories. I mean, Saban isn't the type of guy who looks capable of handling a tough situation in the press with class and dignity. Also, given their repeat-offender status, he definitely won't want to stick around through lean years with reduced scholarships. That hospital wing is only so big.
September 13th, 2013 at 8:46 PM ^
OSU and Bama (Hell, if they made a run at Hoke, UM) will match anything UT can bring to the table. Period. If UT were WalMart, it's not as if Target couldn't match CEO pay.
They could take a lesser program's coach and may in fact do that (e.g. UM getting Rich Rod).
Texas is a wealthy program from a very talented HS state, but Texas football is very political and the UT coach has to have ties to the region. They could steal Fitzgerald from NU, but not guys like Urban or Saban.
September 13th, 2013 at 9:08 PM ^
I largely agree, but if Saban sees major sanctions coming down the pike at Alabama, I could see him moving on. As we saw when he made the jump to the NFL, he does not lack in confidence and could definitely see himself as the type of coach who could turn around Texas.
September 13th, 2013 at 11:53 PM ^
You just contradicted yourself.
September 14th, 2013 at 6:54 AM ^
This is in reply to you and Mr. Rager.
From Wikipedia: On January 15, 1982, Texas A&M offered Schembechler nearly $3 million for 10 years—the richest contract in the history of college athletics at that time—to become the school's football coach and athletic director. Schembechler turned it down. "Frankly, I've come to the conclusion that there are things more important in this world than money," Schembechler said. "For that reason, I've decided to stay at Michigan."[5]
But thats not the whole story according to my father (U of M alumni graduated mid 70's). My dad says that Bo was very close to leaving. Three million over 10 years was an astronomical sum at the time and Bo was certainly tempted. But at the 11th hour some Michigan alumni got together led by Tom Monighan and bought Bo two Dominos Pizza franchises (in Columbus, OH by the way) and the University gave him a 40% raise so he would stay in Ann Arbor.
September 14th, 2013 at 7:28 AM ^
Michigan at that time was not competitive in the salaries it was paying coaches, and probably anyone other thsn Bo would have taken the A&M money and run. Johnny Orr left a few years before for better money at Iowa State.
September 13th, 2013 at 6:22 PM ^
September 14th, 2013 at 2:34 AM ^
I'd put a large amount of money on Charlie Strong.
September 13th, 2013 at 5:09 PM ^
is going to try to yoink Brady Hoke out from under us, ever. This thing was worth suffering through RichRod for, me boyos.
September 13th, 2013 at 10:37 PM ^
Well, they may well try at some point. They just won't succeed.
September 13th, 2013 at 5:09 PM ^
There was something on CBS Sports about how Dodds might possibly move from being the athletic director to something more in line with a consultant for the department, but officials from Texas seem to be quick to say that such a thing is not in the works.
All the same, if DeLoss Dodds finally leaves that university in his current role, whether it is at the end of the year or whenever, that would likely almost ensure that Mack Brown is not long for the Longhorns barring some sort of phenomenal performance from here on out (or it could be too late now even if that happened). Could be wrong there, of course.
September 13th, 2013 at 5:13 PM ^
New ADs are always a bad sign for coaches on the hot seat.
September 13th, 2013 at 5:15 PM ^
I would not miss Dodds. He has done a nice job building Texas into a financial powerhouse (with the help of one of the largest alumni networks in the country) but his actions in the last five or so years have been largely detrimental to college football.
September 13th, 2013 at 5:19 PM ^
I feel like they're going through what we went through 5 years ago.
September 13th, 2013 at 5:33 PM ^
Exactly what I was going to say. 2013 Texas is 2007 Michigan. Major power houses going through coaching concerns of their respective legendary coaches and then bringing in a new AD (obviously not the same the year for us as appears will be the case for UT).
The big question will be, how is their cupboard?
September 13th, 2013 at 5:24 PM ^
September 13th, 2013 at 5:26 PM ^
Its the same as USC. These are the kinds of programs that won't stay down forever.
September 13th, 2013 at 5:42 PM ^
I think the assumption is that Fitzgerald is purple 'til he retires, but I'll be interested to see what happens if UT or USC backs a armored truck up to Bill O'Brien after another successful season at PSU. Either one of those athletic departments could absorb his buyout without a second thought. And - despite his sentimental spot in Happy Valley - I think he'd be crazy not to at least consider a chance at college football royalty.
September 13th, 2013 at 6:39 PM ^
I think Bill O'Brien is smart enough to take an NFL or top college job if he gets the opportunity. That said, I think his star is going to fall this season. Penn State is already down to 65 scholarship players and isn't going to be able to afford any injuries. Plus, Hackenburg seems like the real deal, but he hasn't faced a real defense yet.
I've got them around 3-5 in the Big 10. Nebraska, Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Michigan will all beat them and they'll drop one other on crappy QB play.
September 14th, 2013 at 12:45 AM ^
Granted I only watched a little bit of Penn State's game against EMU, but Hackenberg to me looks like the classic true freshman QB: big arm, loads of talent--but mentally he's nowhere near ready for prime-time. He'll be awesome in a couple years but right now he looks like a turnover machine. I know the Big Ten isn't what it used to be, but I still think Penn State will really struggle offensively once they hit the conference schedule.
September 14th, 2013 at 7:31 AM ^
The pass rush hordes against Hacklenberg and that will be that.
September 13th, 2013 at 5:42 PM ^
Here's how it's gonna go down:
Brown resigns. GERG takes over as head coach.
The Beaver-Bevo combo reigns supreme.
/wishful
September 13th, 2013 at 7:07 PM ^
September 13th, 2013 at 8:01 PM ^
I'd pay for the Longhorn Network to watch that.
September 14th, 2013 at 12:47 AM ^
GERG becoming the Texas HC would truly prove that half of life is just showing up.
September 14th, 2013 at 9:35 AM ^
that part never gets mentioned
September 13th, 2013 at 5:43 PM ^
I wonder when the transition will occur--the article just sasy "end of the year." If I was a Texas person, I would want the AD transition to happen during the football season so that the new guy can fire Mack Brown and get a new coach in at the earliest possible moment. If "end of the year" means, say, December 31, then a new football coach presumably can't be hired until probably well into January. While I understand Texas has a completely different recruiting scenario than everyone else, that could still hurt them pretty badly for the 2014 class.
September 13th, 2013 at 5:44 PM ^
as a national contender since Vince Young and Colt McCoy. Every year, their recruit classes are rated higher than everyone's, and every year they fall flat on their face when they play. They are like USC at this point. They've been bypassed.
September 13th, 2013 at 11:52 PM ^
Well, it does go to show how having excellence at the QB position can go a long ways towards a successful season and, of course, the opposite is true as well.
September 14th, 2013 at 3:39 AM ^
September 14th, 2013 at 8:48 AM ^
Just think about how scary Texas would have been the last few years had they recruited Andrew Luck over Garrett Gilbert
September 13th, 2013 at 5:44 PM ^
Ratingswise, UT recruiting is trending down and A&M's is going up. Since 2010, UT is 23-17 with some pretty bad losses, especially to Oklahoma. Brown is the obvious first one to go but it looks like the AD is going down for holding on to MB for too long.
It is really interesting to see UT and A&M with hindsight of the last couple years. Texas could have joined any major conference but stayed in the Big 12 and start the LHN, which to me kind of put them on their own little island. Meanwhile, A&M hires an up and coming coach and joins the SEC with fairly low expectations and end up playing well, having a Heisman winner, and basically make UT seem like the No. 2 team in the state (but still No. 1 in the heart of said Heisman winner and FSU's starting QB).
September 13th, 2013 at 10:42 PM ^
You gonna invite that homewrecker into your house?
September 13th, 2013 at 11:56 PM ^
Jesus Tapdancing Christ on a Cracker, why can't you people get over your obsession with bringing the ultimate in ultra high-maintenance self-absorbed spoiled obnoxious rich bitches into what's generally been a civilized conference?
September 14th, 2013 at 12:57 AM ^
Not to mention that Texas would be difficult to compete with if they actually got themselves a competent coaching staff. I understand the aversion to bringing shit teams like Maryland and Rutgers into the conference. But I'd frankly prefer that to adding a program that picks four- and five-star recruits off of a tree in its backyard.
September 14th, 2013 at 12:49 AM ^
September 13th, 2013 at 6:02 PM ^