AD DeLoss Dodds is rumored to be retiring.
OT: More Rumored Turmoil at Texas
Texas appears to be what people in my neck in the woods would call "deep doodoo".
Dollars to donuts Texas is going to clean house and start fresh in the offseason. Where it could get interesting is the Texas fans want their team to bring in a AA++ coach... Nick Saban and Urban Meyer's names have come up. Sounds like a pipe dream, but if any one school has the cash to pull a move like that off, it's Texas.
You really have to have more than money to pull an elite coach to your school. Now, I know that Texas is a big time program and would have a good shot at the best available coach, or a hot up and comer, but coaches like Meyer and Saban aren't going to leave programs they have up and running for Texas - it just isn't a better job right now, and it's in a crappy conference.
For the most part I agree with you, though for the top coaches UT won't be able to triple their salary like in your example. Even if Texas offered either of those guys 5 or 6 mil, Bama or OSU would match it, or at least come close. Realistically, OSU has everything Texas has outside of the academics, and I doubt Urban cares a whole lot about that, plus he's from Ohio. And I'm sure Saban won't leave the train he has rolling to go to Texas that is 3 years away from contention at best.
I agree about Meyer, but not as much with Saban. He seems like he gets bored or something, always has something to prove. Not saying he'd leave, but I think it's at least a real possibility.
Yeah, that kind of stuff makes it harder to predict - when people take a position that isn't necessarily a better job by normal metrics but they do so because it presents a new challege. Maybe Saban would do something like that. I agree that it's still unlikely.
Saban never gets bored because robots don't register emotion.
If the Alabama accusations turn out to have substance in the eyes of the NCAA, Saban might say FTS and take a job elsewhere. He knows the boosters can buy just as good a team at Texas as they do at Bama.
Saban has rhe rider in his contract that says he HAS to be the highest paid coach in college, so if Texas pays anyone more than what he's currently making, he gets a raise without going anywhere
I wonder what happens if another coach negotiates the same clause in his contract. I bet the universe explodes
I agree about Meyer, though who knows given his penchant for ducking out of programs at times. As for Saban, he built Alabama back up and might not mind a reclamation project like Texas, especially if anything of substance comes up about from those Yahoo! stories. I mean, Saban isn't the type of guy who looks capable of handling a tough situation in the press with class and dignity. Also, given their repeat-offender status, he definitely won't want to stick around through lean years with reduced scholarships. That hospital wing is only so big.
OSU and Bama (Hell, if they made a run at Hoke, UM) will match anything UT can bring to the table. Period. If UT were WalMart, it's not as if Target couldn't match CEO pay.
They could take a lesser program's coach and may in fact do that (e.g. UM getting Rich Rod).
Texas is a wealthy program from a very talented HS state, but Texas football is very political and the UT coach has to have ties to the region. They could steal Fitzgerald from NU, but not guys like Urban or Saban.
I largely agree, but if Saban sees major sanctions coming down the pike at Alabama, I could see him moving on. As we saw when he made the jump to the NFL, he does not lack in confidence and could definitely see himself as the type of coach who could turn around Texas.
You just contradicted yourself.
This is in reply to you and Mr. Rager.
From Wikipedia: On January 15, 1982, Texas A&M offered Schembechler nearly $3 million for 10 years—the richest contract in the history of college athletics at that time—to become the school's football coach and athletic director. Schembechler turned it down. "Frankly, I've come to the conclusion that there are things more important in this world than money," Schembechler said. "For that reason, I've decided to stay at Michigan."
But thats not the whole story according to my father (U of M alumni graduated mid 70's). My dad says that Bo was very close to leaving. Three million over 10 years was an astronomical sum at the time and Bo was certainly tempted. But at the 11th hour some Michigan alumni got together led by Tom Monighan and bought Bo two Dominos Pizza franchises (in Columbus, OH by the way) and the University gave him a 40% raise so he would stay in Ann Arbor.
Michigan at that time was not competitive in the salaries it was paying coaches, and probably anyone other thsn Bo would have taken the A&M money and run. Johnny Orr left a few years before for better money at Iowa State.
If any place is reluctant to clean house, it's Texas. I was always under the impression that Mack Brown would succeed Dodds and hire his replacement from within, so as to propagate the Good Ol Boy Network.
I'd put a large amount of money on Charlie Strong.
is going to try to yoink Brady Hoke out from under us, ever. This thing was worth suffering through RichRod for, me boyos.
Well, they may well try at some point. They just won't succeed.
There was something on CBS Sports about how Dodds might possibly move from being the athletic director to something more in line with a consultant for the department, but officials from Texas seem to be quick to say that such a thing is not in the works.
All the same, if DeLoss Dodds finally leaves that university in his current role, whether it is at the end of the year or whenever, that would likely almost ensure that Mack Brown is not long for the Longhorns barring some sort of phenomenal performance from here on out (or it could be too late now even if that happened). Could be wrong there, of course.
New ADs are always a bad sign for coaches on the hot seat.
I would not miss Dodds. He has done a nice job building Texas into a financial powerhouse (with the help of one of the largest alumni networks in the country) but his actions in the last five or so years have been largely detrimental to college football.
I feel like they're going through what we went through 5 years ago.
Exactly what I was going to say. 2013 Texas is 2007 Michigan. Major power houses going through coaching concerns of their respective legendary coaches and then bringing in a new AD (obviously not the same the year for us as appears will be the case for UT).
The big question will be, how is their cupboard?
Betcha Rick Barnes is gone during the housecleaning too.
Texas will bounce back from this one way or another. They've got the money, resources,and immediate recruiting grounds that would attract any coach or top-flight coordinator.
Its the same as USC. These are the kinds of programs that won't stay down forever.
I think the assumption is that Fitzgerald is purple 'til he retires, but I'll be interested to see what happens if UT or USC backs a armored truck up to Bill O'Brien after another successful season at PSU. Either one of those athletic departments could absorb his buyout without a second thought. And - despite his sentimental spot in Happy Valley - I think he'd be crazy not to at least consider a chance at college football royalty.
I think Bill O'Brien is smart enough to take an NFL or top college job if he gets the opportunity. That said, I think his star is going to fall this season. Penn State is already down to 65 scholarship players and isn't going to be able to afford any injuries. Plus, Hackenburg seems like the real deal, but he hasn't faced a real defense yet.
I've got them around 3-5 in the Big 10. Nebraska, Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Michigan will all beat them and they'll drop one other on crappy QB play.
Granted I only watched a little bit of Penn State's game against EMU, but Hackenberg to me looks like the classic true freshman QB: big arm, loads of talent--but mentally he's nowhere near ready for prime-time. He'll be awesome in a couple years but right now he looks like a turnover machine. I know the Big Ten isn't what it used to be, but I still think Penn State will really struggle offensively once they hit the conference schedule.
The pass rush hordes against Hacklenberg and that will be that.
Here's how it's gonna go down:
Brown resigns. GERG takes over as head coach.
The Beaver-Bevo combo reigns supreme.
That would make my fucking day.
I'd pay for the Longhorn Network to watch that.
GERG becoming the Texas HC would truly prove that half of life is just showing up.
that part never gets mentioned
I wonder when the transition will occur--the article just sasy "end of the year." If I was a Texas person, I would want the AD transition to happen during the football season so that the new guy can fire Mack Brown and get a new coach in at the earliest possible moment. If "end of the year" means, say, December 31, then a new football coach presumably can't be hired until probably well into January. While I understand Texas has a completely different recruiting scenario than everyone else, that could still hurt them pretty badly for the 2014 class.
as a national contender since Vince Young and Colt McCoy. Every year, their recruit classes are rated higher than everyone's, and every year they fall flat on their face when they play. They are like USC at this point. They've been bypassed.
Well, it does go to show how having excellence at the QB position can go a long ways towards a successful season and, of course, the opposite is true as well.
Were you thinking what I was thinking?
Wonder if Dantonio misses Cousins.....
Just think about how scary Texas would have been the last few years had they recruited Andrew Luck over Garrett Gilbert
Ratingswise, UT recruiting is trending down and A&M's is going up. Since 2010, UT is 23-17 with some pretty bad losses, especially to Oklahoma. Brown is the obvious first one to go but it looks like the AD is going down for holding on to MB for too long.
It is really interesting to see UT and A&M with hindsight of the last couple years. Texas could have joined any major conference but stayed in the Big 12 and start the LHN, which to me kind of put them on their own little island. Meanwhile, A&M hires an up and coming coach and joins the SEC with fairly low expectations and end up playing well, having a Heisman winner, and basically make UT seem like the No. 2 team in the state (but still No. 1 in the heart of said Heisman winner and FSU's starting QB).
You gonna invite that homewrecker into your house?
Jesus Tapdancing Christ on a Cracker, why can't you people get over your obsession with bringing the ultimate in ultra high-maintenance self-absorbed spoiled obnoxious rich bitches into what's generally been a civilized conference?
Not to mention that Texas would be difficult to compete with if they actually got themselves a competent coaching staff. I understand the aversion to bringing shit teams like Maryland and Rutgers into the conference. But I'd frankly prefer that to adding a program that picks four- and five-star recruits off of a tree in its backyard.
Wasn't it just a couple years ago when we were applauding Texas because they were hiring the best coordinators and setting up an actual coching tree? They had Muschamp, Diaz, etc. and looked to be on their way to a nice future after Mack Brown. Now Diaz has flamed out, Muschamp stopped waiting for Brown to retire, and the program is Michigan-2007.
Sooooo... Rich Rod to Austin?
Chris Petersen decides to make a move?
Seems like that would be the perfect match. I dont see any other big names out there. I Narduzzi should get a look.
As much as I can't stand Narduzzi, he does deserve consideration for a head coaching job. I can't remember, but in the last few years weren't there rumors of Narduzzi to UCLA or possibly USC if Kiffin gets canned?
If I was Texas, Strong would definitely be on my short list. And I think he makes a lot more sense than Saban, Fitzgerald, or a lot of the other names being tossed out.
Narduzzi should get a job somewhere, but Texas and USC are going to demand high-end, proven head coaching commodities, not someone without experience. I happen to disagree with that viewpoint, but it is what it is.
Expect the usual pipe dream names like Jon Gruden, Chris Peterson, and Nick Saban. After that doesn't go anywhere, expect Charlie Strong to maybe bite and then a guy like Fitzgerald to take a pass. Then, who knows, Texas could run at David Shaw and both could go after Bill O'Brien. Gary Anderson at Wisconsin would be a great pick, but I'm not sure he'd pull a Todd Graham.
How about Tressel at Texas? He's probably got 7-10 years left in him. He definitely wouldn't be my first choice, but at least with him you know you're getting a coach who you know can have success at a big time program.
hiring Tressel would be a big mistake. He's never left the state of Ohio. He has lots of connections there , would be starting from scratch in Texas. I wouldn't downplay the difficulty of adjusting to a new culture either. I'd be surprised if their new coach doesn't have ties to the state.
What about I Robot, too ?
But Fitzgerald would be my guy if I'm Texas.
The same Dodds who refused (scared) to play A&M in the cotton bowl last year.
I bet they go after David Shaw once Mack Brown "retires."
probably get Kiffin after the season. Odds are that he'll be available.
Knowing Kiffin he'll probably be the CEO of Oracle or something next year, the way his career has gone. The more he sucks, the better his next job is.
that is because people always rise to their level of incompetency and Lane has quite a ways to go to reach his potential.
Ah, the American Dream: Fail upwards endlessly.
Whelp, another major head coaching search, another Les Miles raise. Wouldn't be surprised if they offered him. He was at Colorado, at OK State twice, and with the Dallas Cowboys. He might jump at a big enough contact in those even-more-fertile recruiting grounds. He'd own the Big 12 every year, too, instead of just sharing the SEC.
LOL, Miles' OK St experience is not a selling point now.
I'm sure they can round up a pretty nice bevy of hostesses down in Austin ....
Maybe Chris Peterson might be a prime candidate?
I know he has personal reasons for staying at boise but.... It's UT.
I don't think it's likely. Texas is going to want a perceived slam dunk, top five type coach. He seems too risky.
I think he's missed his opportunity to cash in to be honest. He might get a mid-level BCS job but Boise looks decidedly mediocre for the most part and haven't really been in the BCS/NC convo for a couple of seasons.
But I think he's smart enough to realize he's best served staying put. The pressure to win big is much less, and he can ride his successes much further there than a big time program.
Hope they don't go after 49ers coach.
It has been rumored here in Texas for years that Mack Brown would move into the AD spot whenever Dodds retired. This retirement is undoubtedly occurring so that Brown can step down as head coach without losing face and w/o UT having to pay him a massive buy-out by firing him.
Expect UT to go hard after Chris Peterson of Boise State. While they may go after Kevin Sumlin, there is no way he takes the job.
The AD part is true.
After the experience Chuck Harstens (spell?) had, I doubt Peterson has any interest in coming to UT. Harstens was the former offensive coordinator at Boise St who came to UT after Greg Davis was canned and has since been forced to accept Major Applewhite as co-offensive coordinator. Not a good situation behind closed doors from my info.
The sad/funny part to me, is every UT fan I know, that would be everyone I know in Austin, thinks they can get any coach they want. All they have to do is decide who the lucky chap will be.
I think there's a handful of college coaches who would be difficult or impossible for Texas to pull because it's unlikely the Texas job would be an improvement over their current situations (Saban, Meyer, Hoke, Fitzgerald, Richt, probably Brian Kelly and Al Golden) and then there are the NFL guys (current or aspiring) who just wouldn't be interested. Other than that, though, I think Texas probably can get most anyone they want. It's not like the usual rebuilding job; with the right coach, Texas has the talent to instantly compete for championships on any level.
I agree with you completely, the problem is, the general UT fan sentiment is that they can get anyone, not most anyone. They would tell you Hoke isn't good enough so they would never go after him, but if they did, he would come.
With that kind of attitude, it will be interesting to see how their fans react either when UT gets rebuffed by a Saban or Meyer type, or else hires some lower-profile coach who they consider beneath their standards.
They do the same thing that a lot of M fans did when Hoke got hired. There' ll be WTF posts and bitching about how they wanted someone else. Maybe ShaggyBevo will have a "No Joke it's Coach X" post.
But, if the hire works out, they will all forget about it after about, oh, two seasons or so.
Why does that sound so familiar?
Not really sure why no one has even mentioned Art Briles. Petersen is fantastic, but he has already turned down "dream" jobs and seems to be a West Coast guy; Briles has turned the worst joke of a program in Baylor into a juggernaut. When Baylor annihilates Texas this year the buzz will be deafening.
I would think Briles would top any UT coaching list as well. In addition to his offenses and record, he has a ton of connections with 'Texas HS coaches.
In a state like Texas, having the relationships already established is not as big a deal. If you have the right personality (which Mack did/does) there are enough people associated with UT who will make sure the new coach has all the right connections. This why I think a high energy guy like Sweeny could be a real consideration. Think back to Mack's track record. He brought UNC back from the depths and could never quite get over the hump losing that one or two critical games a year at a "lesser" program. Sounds a lot like Dabo at Clemson.
As dumb as this will sound, the general feeling is that Briles is not good enough to coach UT. I know, scoreboard, but the general thinking is, if he had to go to Baylor, he isn't good enough for UT. There is also a bit of bad blood between the current UT football staff and Briles over some recruiting battles. Even with a new AD, the boosters won't forget about it.
If UT goes outside their ranks, it will be very similar to when they hired Mack, a proven commodity from an established program, but one which still makes UT a step up job. I don't think Fitzgerald is a good fit at all. (Not saying he is a bad coach, just not a good fit for UT). You can forget about any other Big 12 school. I doubt they go after any SEC guys, because that would be too humiliating to have to steal from the conference TA&M left for (unless they try to bring Muschamp back, which I doubt). That leaves the ACC, B1G, or Pac12. Maybe they go after Dabo Sweeny if Clemson has a great year. Maybe they go after David Shaw. Maybe BO'B. Texas HS football is very much built around spread offenses and I think any new coach will have to be a defensive guy, like Brown was, but will accept running a more based spread offense.
A friend of mine who is a Boise State alum told me that Petersen's son, Sean, is a reason he will always stay. It's been many years since Sean, as a toddler, was diagnosed with an aggressive form of cancer and has been in remission. However, as any parent of a child with juvenile forms of cancer knows, once you find doctors who know you and your child and have earned your trust, there's not a job in the world worth the perceived risks. Sure, there are other doctors who are as good - and maybe better - in places like Los Angeles. But to Chris Petersen, I doubt it matters much.
Clearly an long running AD retiring has big implications for a long running coach.
This could mean Mack Brown to AD. If not, and there's a new AD, Brown is gone.
More rumored turmoil? Did they find a way to hire Greg Robinson again??
Valenti and Foster were adamant on their show yesterday that Narduzzi would only leave MSU for a Texas type job and that Texas could very well come calling....I almost drove off the road.
that Saban will be at Texas next season. He's been at Bama for awhile now, can go into Texas next year and win 9-10; get a couple years of recruiting in that hot-bed and he'll win another Nat'l Title in a couple of seasons. This is who Saban is...
Northwestern's Pat Fitzgearld would be my picks to replace Mack.