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July 20th, 2010 at 2:24 PM | Haden (Score:1)
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Single greatest Pat Hayden quote of all time....

 

"Oh, wide open."

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July 20th, 2010 at 3:11 PM | Slightly off (Score:1)
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it was more like:

Awe (shit), wide open

Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.

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July 20th, 2010 at 3:39 PM | Maize (Score:1)
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I'd go w/ his definition of maize: "A bold, arrogant shade of yellow."

Well, the world needs ditch diggers, too.

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July 20th, 2010 at 2:26 PM | I'm impressed that Southern (Score:1)
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I'm impressed that Southern Cal even has such a qualified alumnus 

eenie meenie miney mo, catch a WR by his toe. if he scores six, let him go

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July 20th, 2010 at 2:28 PM | Damn, I was having fun at Garrett's expense (Score:1)
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Oh well. Kiffin will continue to provide hours of free entertainment.

Christ in me arise and dispel all the darkness.

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July 20th, 2010 at 2:31 PM | It more than just posting boards (Score:1)
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ESPN is reporting it too...

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/news/story?id=5395550

 

And I wonder if Garrett is getting canned because everyone else is just jealous of him...? (I'm guessing, not today).

And did anyone else, at first read, think that Garrett's replacement was an ex-USC quarterback named Rhodes Scholar?  I mean, what are the odds.... (Funny, if still accurate, comma placement).

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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July 20th, 2010 at 3:49 PM | New president (Score:1)
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Max Nikias, who has just taken over as president of the university, apparently flipped out when Garrett made his ridiculous, "Y'all just jealous" comments.  Once that happened Garrett was gone according to SC's beat writer.

http://insidesocal.com/usc/archives/2010/07/firing-line.html

UPDATE: It looks like that ESPN article you posted was just updated with more info.  USC is returning Reggie Bush's Heisman Trophy (the school gets one and the player gets one) and removing all banners/posters/pictures featuring Bush or Mayo around campus and the athletic facilities.  Awesomely harsh quote from the new university president about the decision regarding Bush/Mayo:

"The Trojan Family honors and respects the USC sporting careers of those persons whose actions did not compromise their athletic program or the opportunities of future USC student-athletes," Nikias said.

It is spelled HOKEAMANIA.  Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!

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July 20th, 2010 at 8:18 PM | This is awesome. Sounds like (Score:1)
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This is awesome. Sounds like someone's trying to set up David Bandon West. Often imitated, never duplicated.

The Lord is my shepherd, but Bo is my coach.

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July 21st, 2010 at 1:10 AM | Not piling on, just curious... (Score:1)
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...have they returned OJ's Trophy? (Looking at that last quote...didn't compromise the athletic program...but c'mon...Reggie didn't kill anybody...other than my chances with Kim, and they weren't all that great anyway).

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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July 20th, 2010 at 7:28 PM | Rhodes Scholar (Score:1)
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And let's not forget his studly left tackle, Rhodes Colossus

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July 20th, 2010 at 2:30 PM | After Tim Floyd (Score:1)
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Reggie Bush, and his own "jealousy" non-sense in the wake of the NCAA ruling, it's inexplicable how he lasted this long.

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July 20th, 2010 at 2:53 PM | Garrett wasn't fired sooner (Score:1)
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Garrett wasn't fired sooner because SC's former president was dealing with health problems, which eventually lead him to step down. So SC wanted to finish their search for a new president before they had to look for a new AD.

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July 20th, 2010 at 3:12 PM | Thanks. Yeah, I'd heard this (Score:1)
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from one of my Southern Cal friends who's on top of that program, so "inexplicable" isn't exactly right. It's a decent enough explanation, though if I were the board of regents , I would have just gone ahead had the president fire his butt anyway and name some associate AD the "interim" AD until the successor was installed. What's the worst that could happen if they had no AD for 60 days?  Instead, the university looks a bit foolish, I think.

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July 20th, 2010 at 3:22 PM | Avoiding panic mode (Score:1)
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If Garrett had been canned right after the sanctions came down or following his dumbass "jealous" comments, I think things would have looked worse (i.e. "the shit has completely hit the fan and we are freaking out").  As it is, his firing is now a quiet offseason story and I'm guessing as much focus will be on Haden taking the job as there is on Garrett leaving.  The story can be spun as an exciting new chapter rather than a gaping hole in the athletic department.

Once Garrett opened his mouth about the sanctions, any slim chance he had of staying was destroyed.  Firing him in this manner looks more like a calm decision that (in my opinion) dramatically improves the athletic department rather than a move resulting from knee-jerk panic.

It is spelled HOKEAMANIA.  Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!

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July 20th, 2010 at 4:53 PM | You make good points. (Score:1)
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Fankly I'm surprised he survived Paul Hackett (zing!). 

It's a tough call. Tim Floyd and Carroll were both his hires. Both got them major sanctions. That's squarely on Garrett. Ironically Carroll  was his savior after a very pedestrian first several years of AD-ship, and then ultimately his demise. 

Anyway, I can see why USC would want to control the damage, but can't say that I have a lot of respect for the timing.

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July 20th, 2010 at 2:41 PM | Am I the only one... (Score:1)
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who thought that Tom Hammond was the new USC AD and is now very disappointed?

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July 20th, 2010 at 2:42 PM | nope.... (Score:1)
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I thought the same, and was excited to hear about how jealous we all were of the trojans

"Over? Did you say, over? Nothing is over until we decide it is!"

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July 20th, 2010 at 2:57 PM | Nope (Score:1)
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Who is this two headed QB monster of an Athletic Director named Rhodes Scholar and Tom Hammond...can they work together? Is this a good idea?

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July 20th, 2010 at 2:44 PM | Garrett is a leading world authority (Score:1)
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on committing suicide by mouth.


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July 20th, 2010 at 2:44 PM | So odds are high NBC's (Score:1)
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So odds are high NBC's broadcasts of ND games will get even less tolerable.  Hard to imagine.

I honestly didn't mind Haden that much.

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July 20th, 2010 at 2:49 PM | Yeah, (Score:1)
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Hayden was a bright spot in those telecasts.

Taking it one week at a time

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July 20th, 2010 at 2:59 PM | Yep, Hard to Imagine Indeed (Score:1)
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Haden is sharp.  I never understood why a Trojan was doing Notre Dame games anyway . . . aside from the huge paychecks from NBC of course.

"Better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football" -- John Heisman

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July 20th, 2010 at 3:07 PM | Staying impartial (Score:1)
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I always thought Haden was there to give the strong appearance of a neutral, impartial broadcast.  The Notre Dame-only contract at NBC seems like a recipe for an obnoxious, homer broadcast but I think Hammond/Haden do a pretty good job avoiding that.  If they had someone like Golic cheerleading in the booth it would turn off the big chunk of their viewership that tunes in hoping to see ND lose, making them less money in the process.

It is spelled HOKEAMANIA.  Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!

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July 20th, 2010 at 5:23 PM | ummm... (Score:1)
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I never found Haden impartial but, compared with the rest of the crew, he at least didn't sound like an out an out apologist.

If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone

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July 20th, 2010 at 5:31 PM | True (Score:1)
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I guess that is why I said "appearance of an impartial broadcast."  I think just having commentary come from a guy who played for their chief rival (even if that commentary is from a strong ND perspective a lot of the time) gave the broadcast a little more legitimacy.  If someone like Theismann did even the exact same job, I think neutral or anti-ND viewers would probably not be able to stand it.

It is spelled HOKEAMANIA.  Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!

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July 20th, 2010 at 8:47 PM | Theismann... (Score:1)
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...he's been unlistenable for years...but he's a mile better than Golic.

If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone

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July 20th, 2010 at 2:46 PM | I was thinking that same thing (Score:1)
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At ND when Manningham had about 30 yards on the nearest defender and Henne just lofted it in there. My jaw dropped when I first saw that then couldn't stop laughing when I just hear a soft "Oh he's open." One of my favorite ND moments....of course there are others above it....

Has the whole world gone CRAZY!?!

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July 20th, 2010 at 2:49 PM | I worked with Tom Hammond, briefly, (Score:1)
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back in the 80s. I got a temp job with NBC Sports World and used it to get over to Ireland and my girlfriend by piggybacking on a big Irish horse race. (I got to sit with the trophy, made of Waterford Crystal, in a limo for a while, I remember.) His eyes looked right through you then, too.

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July 20th, 2010 at 4:05 PM | plussing myself up because (Score:1)
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nobody even responded to my real-life story!!! And I mentioned Tom Verdamt Hammond's wierd eyes b4 anyone else!

(Secret bonus fact: He looked older then than he does now. I sh*t you not.)

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July 20th, 2010 at 2:50 PM | Any Video or Audio?* (Score:1)
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Current Smug rating: "lethal"

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July 20th, 2010 at 3:02 PM | THANKS A LOT I had to go (Score:1)
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THANKS A LOT

I had to go browse boytaur pics for 20 minutes just to undo the sight of those eyes. They stare directly into my soul, and touch me inappropriately while in there.

Ann Arbor: now the permanent home of the Little Brown Jug

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July 20th, 2010 at 3:22 PM | now kinda wishing (Score:1)
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I hadn't asked myself what a boytaur was. Thanks be my old mother has gone to her reward and won't be looking into MY eyes for sin tonight.

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July 20th, 2010 at 2:53 PM | Pat Hayden to be replaced (Score:1)
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Pat Hayden to be replaced by ND loyalist Regis Philbin...

New Oldsmobiles are in early this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIdGxR-aU6o

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July 20th, 2010 at 3:00 PM | "Gelman..." (Score:1)
PurpleStuff
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"...What is going on down on the sidelines?"

It is spelled HOKEAMANIA.  Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!

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July 20th, 2010 at 3:22 PM | Wrong co-host...Who I'd rather see on NBC (Score:1)
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"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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July 20th, 2010 at 3:29 PM | Then Regis can find a co-host...with a more Michigan bent (Score:1)
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http://tv.gawker.com/5569995/regis-really-likes-to-say-lucy-lius-full-name

 

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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July 20th, 2010 at 3:29 PM | paging Mr. (Score:1)
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paging Mr. Collinsworth*..... 

 

*nothing to back that up but hopes

Current Smug rating: "lethal"

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July 20th, 2010 at 10:07 PM | so let me get this straight... (Score:1)
ldoublee
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you like Notre Dame AND Chris Collinsworth?  Seriously?

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July 20th, 2010 at 3:00 PM | Watch Out David Brandon........ (Score:1)
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Tom Brady is coming for your job.   Maybe Drew Henson or Brian Griese.  Didn't Brian have the highest score on the Wonderlick test?  Wonderlick = Rhodes Scholar?

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July 20th, 2010 at 3:02 PM | Sorry, posted in wrong spot (Score:1)
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Sorry, posted in wrong spot.  Meant to be a reply.

Don't worry; SELF NEGGED

Ann Arbor: now the permanent home of the Little Brown Jug

67-22-3 all-time

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July 20th, 2010 at 4:55 PM | what does it mean that (Score:1)
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"USC is giving back Reggie Bush's Heisman Trophy"?

Is that like Michigan basketball taking down Final Four banners? Or do they actually have possession of the trophy, will hand it over to the NCAA and Reggie Bush will never see it again?

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July 20th, 2010 at 5:04 PM | Two trophies (Score:1)
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When somebody wins the Heisman, their school gets a trophy and the player gets a trophy.  SC is giving theirs back but Reggie still has his.  So yeah, it is more like taking down a banner as the trophy will no longer be on display in their athletic offices.

It is spelled HOKEAMANIA.  Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!

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July 20th, 2010 at 5:11 PM | I see. (Score:1)
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thanks for the explanation.

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July 20th, 2010 at 5:58 PM | So... (Score:1)
Kal
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If USC doesn't acknowledge it, does that mean the Heisman committee will eventually take his back? And could they retroactively award it to the runner-up (Vince Young)?

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July 20th, 2010 at 5:59 PM | I just can't see Hayden and (Score:1)
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I just can't see Hayden and Kiffin getting along.

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July 20th, 2010 at 8:54 PM | hmmmm... (Score:1)
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This sort of sets up one or the other of them; you always have to lay your money on the AD. Kiffin, Oregeron et al. were around during the corruption era at USC so it will be interesting to see how this thing works out between them and Haden. 

Haden will have pressure from tall over the place...the fickle LA and SC fan (they are with you win or tie) will not support a loser while, at the same time, he needs to maintain revenues. Haden may envision a "clean" program  but it's hard to say if he can make the Stanford model work in a culture of Snoop Dog fandom. 

If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone

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July 20th, 2010 at 6:22 PM | I am (Score:1)
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I am envious of Pat Haden.

 

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Mike Garrett

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July 20th, 2010 at 8:08 PM | I love to bash USC... (Score:1)
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...but I really can't find anything to bash about this choice.  Haden is a great choice to clean house, because his credentials are academically, athletically, and ethically solid.  If USC is to crawl out of their current mess, having a Rhodes Scholar to lead them out is brilliant, both mechanically and politically.

Considering the decision to revise USC history to not include Bush and Mayo, I wonder how long Kiffin survives?

 

 

 

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