Babcock is a great hockey mind. His Box+1 defenses in the playoffs are some of the best you'll see.
OT - Mike Babcock's Olympic Performance
I agree with the Olympic coaching performance. Some of the best game planning I've ever seen in a hockey game. I've yet to see him to do this with wings though. Plenty of series in the playoffs Babcock has been out coached. I also don't know if I'm all for Datsyuk's "defense" style you talked about. You don't pay someone 7.5 million
Dollars in the NHL to play good defense... That kind of money should have gone to a dynamic goal scorer. 25 goals a year is just not cutting it. He misses the net way to often as well. But as I digress. Here's hoping Babcock can pull something together with this team. Hopefully his winning edge can carry over to the wings cause it is much needed.
He's always been a playmaker and his +\- is among the best in the league. He's doing something right on the ice.
No doubt. But 25 goals a year for a team that struggles to put the puck in the net is just not enough out of your superstar. With that being said there is not more exciting player to watch than him.
if we are going by pure logic, you right. goals are more valuable to Detroit
If not, I am fine with his style of play. It is one of the rare times where a player is that damn good that I dont think about what was the correct play or move with the puck. the dude routinely makes the right play and it is insane to watch
Given how often he sets up other people on the ice, it is enough. He turns whatever other crap they put on the line (Abdelkader, Bertuzzi, etc) into a passable forward.
Datsyuk is a point a game player, and the best two way forward in the NHL. Hes top 5 in the NHL in takeaways annually, and makes every player on the ice better by opening up the ice with his hands and vision. You dont have to be a 40 goal scorer to be worth that kind of money. If you want to get on a high priced player about not putting the puck in the net, Franzen is your guy.
Do you think we'll see #13 in the rafters in the future?
Him and Hank both will be up there eventually. When Datsyuk hangs em up (please sign one more extension), he may go down as a top 3 Russian player ever to play.
Even at 36, I would say he falls somewhere in the top 5 forwards in the world, and has been for quite some time. Crosby, Malkin, Datsyuk, Stamkos, and Ovechkin, in some order.
suggested Babcock was having some fun with his Tinder App and his hookup decided she'd rate his performance...
Yep. If Wings management could actually get some decent players in the fold outside of Datsuk and Zetterberg, we may actually compete with the best in the NHL.
It's amazing how little success Holland has had as of late convincing free agents to come to Detroit - especially with all of the money freed up by Lidstrom and Rafalski retiring. Maybe he's still banking on the Detroit discount, which players aren't willing to accept anymore.
Missing out on Parise and Suter sucked. Although, it seems like they disappeared out there in Minnesota.
The things people do to play hockey in your home state, I'll tell ya what.
The flip side of that is who was the last big name free agent to sign a ginormous contract, and then actually produce? 90% of the time it seems like teams overpay, sign someone to a cap-killing contract, and are stuck with an average player for 8 years
The nuts here in Chicago LOVE that guy.
That probably had something to do with it. Without a salary cap, we probably still have Hossa and Franzen would be on a third line where he belongs. Still, if this roster was healthy and could win some shootouts, or if OT just ended in a tie, they would be firmly in a playoff spot right now.
He won the tournament with, by a good margin, the best roster. I'm sure he did some nice coaching things, but there's nothing inherently spectacular about that.
Every other coach in the tournament had to deal with minimal practice time too, they just (in most cases) didn't have anywhere near the caliber of players.
Bylsma's performance was subpar at best. They had enough talent to medal easily and possibly beat Canada. The line combinations were not working and he did not adjust to the offensive zone trap Canada was running. They had the talent to perform offensively but didn't when it mattered.
"It was easy to poke fun at Canada for their difficulty scoring"
Yeah, like against Finland.
It's a testament to not only his coaching ability but also to the drive those players had to win gold. Crosby could have easily said "fuck that I want to score" but instead he played some great hockey tht was overlooked by most analysts. Babcock is a big time possession coach which I believe leads to less odd man rushes as they spend more time in offensive zone which leads to wearing down the opponent instead of trying to score 8 goals before the opponent (which was my opinion of the Americans game).
I had been saying it all tournament and ill say it one more time... You guys can make fun or point out our "lack" of scoring but I point at the fact that when push came to shove we could've put out the best player in the world and told him to have at it. Crosby is a player who shines in the biggest of moments and is always in the offensive end creating scoring opportunities. He may have only scored one goal this tournament but ill argue it was the goal that won us gold again (going up 2-0 with our defensive play was a death sentence to the swedes).
Add in the fact that Canada NEVER trailed in a game goes to show u we never really NEEDED a goal. It would've been nice but not necessary
Canada certainly never needed to score a goal to win the game. Because the game isn't about scoring more goals than the other team...
Following the olympics as a Red Wings fan is confusing. Go USA! Although... not any players I normally root for on the team. I gotta root for frikkin' Patrick Kane? Well, I'm not going to root for Canada... although they are coached by Babcock and managed by Yzerman. Hmm. So go... Sweden? Yeah, half their roster are Red Wings, even after Lidstrom retired. And then we've got one or two players on half the rest of the olympic rosters.
The entire time I was watching Team USA I was angry that Kane played like crap. Why can't he ever play like that against the Wings?
To be fair, it helps to have Doughty and Weber.
I'd like to think a monkey could have coached team canada to a gold with all the talent they had. That said, Babcock is an excellent coach and I would have much rather had him over Bylsma.
"I think he instills a lot of confidence in the group," Crosby said of Babcock. "He leads by example and I think you can see that he trusts every guy out there, and the situations he puts them in, he puts them in for a reason. Definitely to have a group come together this quick isn't easy, and everyone's kind of laughing at the ball hockey in August, but you know what, all those little things go a long way sometimes. He definitely did a great job, his whole staff, of preparing us and getting us ready for all the adjustments we needed to make on the big ice."
If you watch the video, you can hear what Pierre LeBrun says.
(2 Olympic Golds, 1 Stanley Cup, World Championship, Junior World Championships)
Babcock is still underated.
Another coach with the same players could have easily lost this tournament.
Under great pressure, Babcock just outcoached (by far) the best coaches in the world.
Babcock did a great job coaching, and is IMO the best X's and O's coach in hockey. However, I think it was the puck possession and forechecking that landed them the gold medal more than the defense. Even though they didn't score a lot, it sure seemed like the damn puck was always in the opponents zone. It's obviously much easier to defend when the puck is that far from the goalie.
I agree, and that's ultimately consistent with what I was intending to convey. The forechecking and puck possession, while mainly occurring in the offensive zone, are spring from the defensive strategy. Getting purely offensive players to buy into that strategy is remarkable. For anyone who questions that, just take a look at what Russia did with some of the best offensive players in the world. They played a pure offense game (much like the US did) and had nothing to show for it. Lots of one and done opportunities and no structure to fall back onto when that didn't work. In my opinion, the best game of the entire tournament was the Canada-Finland game. Both teams played this tournament with a similar philosophy.
Gave an upvote because Babcock is the best coach in the world.
Will not discuss further because Olympic wounds are still too fresh. :(