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September 11th, 2012 at 10:57 PM | Before that, it was "Yes, (Score:2 Informative)
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Before that, it was "Yes, Michigan!"

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September 11th, 2012 at 8:19 PM | Roll Damn Tide (Score:5 Normal)
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No one believe a word of this thread. This is simply Roll Damn Tide. Up to the old antics.

No matter what happens.....They're still gonna run out and touch that banner.

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September 11th, 2012 at 9:26 PM | This poster registered in (Score:3 Normal)
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This poster registered in 2010, so I'll give him (her?) the benefit of the doubt.

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September 12th, 2012 at 8:33 AM | She signed up right after the (Score:2)
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She signed up right after the huskers joined the conference to ask questions about Michigan. I'm pretty sure she's legit.

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September 11th, 2012 at 11:51 PM | The OP registered on the site (Score:2)
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The OP registered on the site before you did...

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

StraightDave owes me a steak dinner

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September 11th, 2012 at 9:08 PM | Interesting question. I have a theory.. (Score:5 Normal)
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The proper state nickname IS of course "The Wolverine State". 

It's not the Spartan state. That would instead describe the required fiscal policy of the state.

No, my theory is that "great lake state" stuff was pounded into people's skulls decades ago by the use of auto licenses plate mottos.

Up until 1954 Michigan automobile license plate had just "MICHIGAN" or "MICH" on it.

In 1954 they pulled this off: A yellow and blue plate with "MICHIGAN" and  "WATER WONDERLAND" on it:

1965 Michigan changed the license plate to "WATER-WINTER WONDERLAND". Like the colors dude, but aaarggh make up your mind, Mr. State Secretary of State!

Then in 1968, more blue and yellow "aggression that will not stand, man" for MSU fans:

Then bell-bottoms and groovy "Spirit of '76" took over the state. Like far out:

Then 1979 hit and we stopped going perpetually to the Rose Bowl (where we always lost). Next thing we know, we're 8-4 and losing to North Carolina in the Gator Bowl.

 

I always admired Nebraska for keeping things simple:

Patriotic...

And...what's for dinner?

 

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September 11th, 2012 at 9:04 PM | It's the Wolverine State to me (Score:2 Normal)
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Just like Iowa is the Hawkeye State, not the Great Plains State. Iowa State fans constantly try to remove the state nickname. When I was raised in MI, it was the same way. MSU fans hated with green, putrid, envy the fact that MI was called the Wolverine State.

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September 11th, 2012 at 9:17 PM | What are they teaching kids nowadays? (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Everyone knows its the Great Lake State.



Ever seen a real wolverine in the state of Michigan? Not many have. Ever seen one of its lakes?

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September 11th, 2012 at 11:24 PM | I teach history/social studies... (Score:3 Normal)
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I teach both. Historically the moniker 'Great Lakes state' has been attributed for obvious geographic reasons. However, the residents have long been referred to as wolverines. Probably the most accurate and recent survey of the state's history written but Dunbar & May has the title ' Michigan a history of the wolverine state'.

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September 11th, 2012 at 9:19 PM | There is a ... (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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site on the internet called Google. its really pretty cool. You type in your question and lots of different sources come up with your answer. you should try it some time. Oh, by the way, there is another cool site called Facebook...

...just one man's opinion.

 

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September 12th, 2012 at 10:32 AM | Facebook sucks.  Its just a (Score:2 Normal)
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Facebook sucks.  Its just a way for old girlfriends to contact you so that you wife sees and gets pissed off about it.

Disgruntled former moderator.  I got a lot of problems with you people!

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September 11th, 2012 at 9:31 PM | from michigan.gov (Score:1 Normal)
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http://michigan.gov/som/0,4669,7-192-29938_30245-67959--,00.html 

 

The State Nickname is the "Great Lake State." Others include "Wolverine State" or "Water Winter Wonderland."  

http://michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-54463_54466_20829-54118--,00.html 

and if we want to go 'historical order of reference' it's officially the 'GREAT LAKES STATE' based on Indigenous people who were here before the Civil War...and Europeans/Vikings/aliens ad nauseum

"Michigan" comes from the Indian word Michigama, meaning "great lake" or "big lake." The French first used the word for the Great Lake that Native Americans called the "Lake of the Illinois"—now Lake Michigan. It was first used officially to refer to the land area when Congress created the Territory of Michigan in 1805. 

 

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September 11th, 2012 at 10:09 PM | Except that the word (Score:5 Normal)
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Except that the word Michigama referred to Lake Michigan, not the two peninsulas bordering it.  To use that as a justification for "Great Lakes State" is a reach.  In the name of political correctness, the state now is pushing the "Great Lakes State" moniker, but "Wolverine State" has the most historical legitimacy.

Most state nicknames apply to their residents.  Look up Wolverine in the dictionary and you will see something like "a native or resident of the state of Michigan."    When we needed a nickname for our athletic teams, we did the same thing most other state flagship schools did - we took the existing state nickname.  In contrast, no one has ever referred to an inhabitant of this state as a "Great Lake."

 

 

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September 12th, 2012 at 3:18 PM |  It was first used officially (Score:1)
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 It was first used officially to refer to the land area when Congress created the Territory of Michigan in 1805. Per the Northwest Ordinance...not much of a stretch really... still pre-dates the Civil war by six decades...  

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September 12th, 2012 at 3:32 PM | You are conflating the term (Score:3 Normal)
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You are conflating the term Michigan with the nickname "Great Lakes State."  Two different things.  No one is disputing what the name of the state is.  

The nickname "Great Lakes State" was not commonly used until the 20th century.  If it had been our state nickname all along, U-M's sports teams would probably be called the Lakers.  We named our teams after the nickname already well-established for residents of this state - Wolverines.

 

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September 12th, 2012 at 3:53 PM | "Michigan" comes from the (Score:3 Normal)
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"Michigan" comes from the Indian word Michigama, meaning "great lake" or "big lake."

That's some sloppy work by the state government there.  First, there is no single "Indian" language.  Second, the name comes from two separate Ojibwe words (misi and gauma, IIRC) that are more properly translated as "big water."  

 

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September 11th, 2012 at 11:07 PM | back when dinosaurs roamed (Score:5 Normal)
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back when dinosaurs roamed the planet, thomas jefferson told joseph smith that university of michigan is the place where wolverines were genetically engineered from bear and wolf dna. When his good friend plato was killed by an escaped wolverine he decreed that no man should ever be subject to that kind of fate, so to warn others, he called it the wolverine state. This part of history was lost during the ice age, but the name persists.

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September 11th, 2012 at 11:15 PM | In my world it is k1400's (Score:2)
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In my world it is k1400's Wolverine Kingdom of Badassery.

To hell with Wikipedia, history, Google, and Notre Dame.

I will fight 'til I am dead, a winged helmet on my head.

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September 11th, 2012 at 11:25 PM | Is Nebraska... "The Cornhusker State?" (Score:1)
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The Bobcat State? Longhorn State? Golden Bear State? The Gator State? The Duck State?

...how about The Gamecock State?

Who gets "The Huskie State"...Washington or Connecticut? I'm so confused!!!

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September 12th, 2012 at 11:05 AM | Nebraska is indeed the (Score:2)
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Nebraska is indeed the Cornhusker State.  And California is the Golden State, as the NBA franchise attests (although the state flag does have a big grizzly bear on it).

Not every flagship university went with the state nickname for its sports teams, but many did.  Ohio is the Buckeye State, Indiana is the Hoosier State, Tennessee is the Volunteer State, North Carolina is the Tar Heel State, Iowa is the Hawkeye State, and so on.  

 

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September 11th, 2012 at 11:43 PM | Nothing personal but I've (Score:1)
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Nothing personal but I've gotta go with Great Lakes state. 

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September 12th, 2012 at 12:34 AM | It is (Score:1)
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It is the Enchanted Mitten, whether you're in the U.P. or a troll, as in those living under the bridge.

"I want to go back, I gotta go back, to Mi-chi-gan."

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September 12th, 2012 at 5:28 AM | Truth be told we probably have as many great lakes touching MI - (Score:1)
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as the overall population of the wolverines in our state. The nickname "wolverine state" came from the Indians when speaking about the early settlers and the way the ate their food, not unlike the ravenous wolverines that actually did reside in the state until many of the great forests had been leveled. The wolverines were restricted in large part to the upper penninsula and even today, there are more wolverines in neighboring Canada and in other parts of the US  than in Michigan, but there was, at some point, a viable wolverine population.

They are rarely seen in the lower section of the state, and they are an incredible animal. Although a 40 lb wolverine would be considered large, they are considered, pound for pound, one of the most feroucious fighting animals on the planet. A photographer lucky enough to capture a picture of one near Whitehall, about 15 miles inland from Lake MI caught a photo of a "large" wolverine, about the size mentioned above, sprinting over a snow covered field. One of the most incredible attributes of the wolverine is that they are so light on their feet, this particular animal was photographed in a dead sprint but left no prints to follow in a snow covered field.

I always look for the license plate and in MI the plate says The Great Lake State. However, OK's plate says Oklahoma is OK, using a play on the abbrev of the state,but most know it as the Boomer State. Another nickname for Mi is the water wonderland, for the obvious reasons.

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September 12th, 2012 at 9:11 AM | wolverines (Score:1)
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was how the ohio soldiers referred to the michigan militia in the toledo war.

Warning: My imagination is inefficient.

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September 12th, 2012 at 11:01 PM | Actually learned about this (Score:0)
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Actually learned about this in Geology today. Wolverines no longer live in Michigan because of deforestation. When we take trees down, we put up ones that aren't in the region and wolverines cannot adapt to the new trees.

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September 12th, 2012 at 8:39 AM | This is Michigan FERGODSAKES. (Score:3 Normal)
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This is Michigan FERGODSAKES.

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September 12th, 2012 at 4:52 PM | * (Score:1)
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Someone might have to verify but I believe the territory now known as the Upper Peninsula was "given" to Michigan as a consolation for the US handing Toledo over to the silly little state to our south. I'd say we won that deal.

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September 12th, 2012 at 5:03 PM | The western two-thirds of it (Score:2)
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The western two-thirds of it was awarded as compensation.  (The eastern third was always part of the Michigan Territory.)

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