Can I attach a beard, or is that verboten?
i refuse to even consider this a possibility
Can I attach a beard, or is that verboten?
as with most things, there are rules to this cause:
I am not a fan of moustaches, but in this case I will make an exception and look as silly as I have to.
Sorry, but I'm forsaking the first rule. If I try to grow just a mustache 1) no one will even realize until the end of the month, thereby negating the goal of raising awareness and 2) I won't be allowed near schools, which is difficult since my typical running route takes me past Huron.
I'm taking the month of October to grow out a beard and carving out the 'stache at the beginning on November. While concern #2 above will still be an issue, at least people will realize I'm participating in Movember.
like a plan! I won't hold it against you...the participation is the key in my mind.
Are you going to join the team? The more the merrier!
joined, just wanted to clear my disobedience to the rules first
and welcome to the team! I believe your method is probably the most followed...some are "follically challenged" so choose to start with the beard and shave down for November.
Is there a way for those of us who are facial hair challenged to donate?
My father has battled prostate cancer as well. It's taken a toll on him physically. I agree, we need to do better on raising awareness for this cause.
Awareness is low on this topic. Prostate cancer is the leading cause of cancer in men:
I've thought about ways to raise awareness similar to the "Pink" of the breast cancer movement. Everything seems to have a "color". Pink is breast cancer, Red is HIV/AIDS, etc. etc.
Apparently 'Light Blue' comprises men's health and cancer:
But this color is shared with a ton of other causes: Prostate cancer, mens health, thyroid disease, lymphedema, Addison's Disease,Trisomy 18, Velo-Cardio Facial Syndrome, Klinefelter's Syndrome, hyperaldosteronism, scleroderma, Behcets Disease, Graves Disease, Shprintzen Syndrome, Edward's Syndrome
It would be great if we could find a way to make this cause stand out as much as others.
for the props and clarification on the rules. I am definitely "follically blessed" but many others aren't. But the wispy little 'staches seem to draw the most conversation - which allows those involved to explain the WHY they are growing a 'stache...which in turn raises awareness and involvement.
Hope you will join the team! Looking forward to seeing more 'Mo Bros!
Good idea....maybe one of our docs or someone in the know could post the latest screening recommendations for prostate cancer as they seem to have a variable landscape.
I know how variable it is, as I was told I didn't need to be screened until I was 45. Now that I'm 39, the latest recommendations since I have a family history are bi-annual screenings after 30. So...I've missed a few exams. LOL
Thankfully, I'm ok so far.
I will not only donate, but I will see if I can't get some inter-office action on this one at work because I know there are people here who have had family members affected by this. Awesome cause, and thanks for sharing your own experiences.
Appreciate the help getting the word out!
...your heartfelt dedication to this cause.
That said, I hate to be a cynic, but there is simply too much money to be made "treating" this disease, whatever form it takes. I firmly believe the medical community has an unspoken secret: "Don't find a cure. Keep on treating it with expensive and largely ineffective protocols."
I say this having lost my wife to cancer three years ago and experienced the system first-hand.
I'm very sorry for your loss. In my own experience, in some ways I would agree. Lots of reliance on the "tried and true" protocols vs. innovation. But also in some ways I would say this area is under-funded compared to other cancer research. I don't want to seem Non-PC, but the fact no one seems to know November is prostate cancer month but October there is pink everywhere drives me nuts. We need to raise awareness and push more funding towards this cause.
Again, I am very sorry for your loss.
My aunt worked as an administer of chemo for a few years. And she was convinced of the same thing. It makes sense that you make more money off of a treatment, more than a cure. I really believe people are dedicated to finding a cure. But I am sure anyone who has come close has probably been taken out. Money covers up a lot of things, and there is a lot of money involved in the treatment of cancer.
I worked at a cancer center for several years and can tell you this is simply not true. People are dedicating their lives towards research and expanding clinical trials.
...are they clinical trials of new medications to treat, or cure? My quarter says the former.
You are so wrong. Our own University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center is the leading research organization in the world for cancer stem cell research, which many believe will lead to actual cures from targeting the root of the problem, as opposed to treating its symptoms.
As an aside, in addition to this OP's great cause, I would encourage everyone to donate to the Michigan Cancer Center. They are doing truly incredible things and the money you donate will actually go to cutting-edge research.
Putting "stem cell" after your research is a way to get funding. Stem cells are precursor cells that eventually differentiate into more familiar cells. The "bad" cancers are ones that are highly undifferentiated cells; basically they are immortalized, don't differentiate and don't function properly. They can spread randomly throughout the body because they don't follow the "rules" and connect to neighboring cells like they are supposed to. So, by definition, these types of cancers are "stem cells". So how do these cancers form? There are a few ways: one is by oncogenic transformation and another is by loss of a tumor suppressor gene. Figuring out these mechanisms are how new treatments are being generated including some recent lung cancer treatments targeting anaplastic lymphoma kinase.
Thanks for the explanation, but that doesn't really have anything to do with my point about the stem cell research being done at UM or my request to show support for the UM Cancer Center.
Both. Institutions like UM and Karmanos have explicit mission statements to find the cure for cancer. While true that cancer treatment generates enourmous revenue, that money gets invested back into the company for better equipment and research. Most are non profit organiztions. If one was to suggest that an actual cure for cancer existed, you would have to find who benefits from keeping that public. It wouldn't be the institutions themselves nor the researchers.
What you're failing to recognize is that companies/people who do not currently profit from treating cancer could make themselves rich beyond belief by finding a cure.
Unfortunately, many times the development of medications falls squarely on the shoulders of large drug companies. There is no incentive for large drug companies to develop a cure, rather, they prefer treatments that can be given over and over. When the patent is up, they come up with a slight modification so they can keep getting the big bucks. You will hear many cases of drugs developed by smaller companies that have great promise towards a cure of many diseases that get bought up by larger drug companies and the drug is shelved. My husband has thought it would be great if someone (government, someone filthy rich, etc...) would give a BILLION dollar reward to the person/company that develops a cure for cancer, DM, etc... Until there is a lot of money in a cure (comparable to repeating monthly payments), there is no incentive for drug companies to do this.
Hypotheticaly, If UM or a like institution was to find the cure for cancer then that information would become public immediately through them. The drug companies would not have the opportunity to bury that information. They are not involved at the point. The government is already giving vast rewards through grants to companies who are leading in research.
A researcher starts out with an idea and eventually gets NIH funding. If the research shows promise, any compound is patented. The researcher/University creates a start-up company and additional research is performed via grants. If a potential drug shows promise, then the company goes for venture cap dollars and/or agreements are made with a pharmaceutical company to get payments for reaching various milestones (e.g. successful conclusion of phase 1/2 study). As the drug gets closer to development, in many cases the smaller company sells itself to the larger company because the cost of regulatory approval and eventual distribution is beyond the scope of the small firm. Then comes making back your investment and then profit.
pretty much our whole medical system is based on treating disease, not preventing or curing it. Examples:
1. Often times medical insurance won't cover annual exams or will only cover them every 2 or 3 years, but once you get the disease it will cover the treatment. So instead of catching it early and maybe curing it, you may have to wait until you have the symptoms and then spend 10 times the amount to treat it.
2. Many states don't require medical students to take any classes on nutrition (or maybe only one class) and yet diet is one of the top causes of , or a contributing factor to many diseases (including prostate cancer). Standard treatment for clogged arteries is to put in stints and prescribe life long blood thinners. This is not a cure. Change your diet to plant based foods and cure/prevent many diseases.
As individuals, we have the power to take charge of our own health through diet, exercise and lifestyle choices.
Note: Google diet and prostate cancer for more information.
Medicine is focused on treating disease, public health is focused on preventing it. I think both communities would be happy to have a cure, but they'd probably look at the way to achieve it in different ways.
or even earlier. Plesae keep posting updates. FYI, I am terrible at facial hair things. I am in the process of growing out about all I can grow out. I will shave everything but my mustache to start november, and rock it all month long.
If I were to start with a clean shaven face on November 1, you wouldn't be able to tell I was supporting anything until December!
Glad to have you aboard! You can join the team even if you would rather not try to get donations. As I invite people to join, it would be great for them to see the participation!
And the terrible hair growth is worth it! Seems like those that have sparse or limited hair generate more conversation than my "facial flow"! Gets people talking about this important cause!
Will you pay for my bail money when I am arrested in late November for looking like a pedo and likely having authorities plant child porn in my home to make sure I am off the streets? I look like an absolute creeper with a stache. But my wife really hates it....so it might all be worth it (outside of the obvious great cause).
Since your avatar looks like a Mug Shot of a Pedo - I think you're already there!
My father is a prostate cancer survivor so I will gladly grow a mustache for awareness. I'm the son of a survivor and didn't know November is prostate month. My wife will object but normally I attempt for mustache March with other AF folks, but that's just for silliness. She can't say no to a good cause.
My Dad is a survivor of this disease as well - thankfully for him it was found relatively early and his treatment was fairly simple compared to your father's and he's approaching the "2 years clean" mark. Hopefully you, your brothers & my brothers will not ever have to face it!
good luck to all of you growing the 'staches - I look forward to the photo updates!
*edit to add: made a donation to the team, thanks for including the link!
My father's was found somewhat late, and originally they gave him a 10% chance of "making it". Thankfully he's not only survived, but thrived! When he goes to the hospital for check-ups/exams, they literally call down interns and students to see him. They look at the size of his file for his medical record and call him a miracle. He is. :)
Wish adidas had light blue gear for September for Prostate Cancer Awareness month.
I'm not even sure what to say in my reply except I wish nothing but the best for patients and family members going through a loved one having cancer. My family has been coping with my dad's brain cancer and resulting complications for over a year now. It takes its toll in every way imaginable. Sometimes you're just not sure if you have the ability to handle it anymore but you soldier on.
very sorry to hear that. For those who haven't gone through anything like this, it's difficult to understand or help cope beyond the "I'm sorry" response. There ARE support groups out there for various types of cancer or cancer in general. I know they helped me in my father's case. 10+ years of fighting the disease would have been impossible on my own.
I can echo this... the stress and pain is incredible. I spent over a year watching my wife die a slow, agonizing death. I lost 20 lbs (I got down to 145) in the process. Too many tears, too many feelings of helplessness and hopelessness while praying it would have been me instead.
I'm still reeling and have a 12 year-old to raise who misses her mom every day.
In hindsight, I wish we would have traveled and tried alternative (Gerson Institute) therapies instead. Once you're into the traditional protocols, it's really difficult to pull yourself out of the vortex.
My mother died from breast cancer in 2011. In January of 2012, my father found out he had prostate cancer. Luckily, it was discovered ealy and he had it removed. So far, so good on any recurrence.
Interesting fact that I learned from the urologist when I went with my father to an appointment. 90% of men that live to 90 years old will have prostate cancer at some point. Sobering thought if you plan on not dying soon. So yeah, cancer sucks.
something very similar...and since we both have parents who had the disease, we are genetically predisposed to get the disease.
Yeah, the future looks like it has some bad things in store for me. Is there a "Depressing Reality Story, Bro" meme?
Prostate cancer really could benefit from a more aggressive awareness campaign. Too many cancers are detected late because male culture is obstinate when it comes to seeking medical attention and routine check-ups, and lives are unnecessarily lost as a result.
After typing that, I recognize that I'm very guilty of victim blaming, and I don't mean to come across that way. But, I just wish there could be some highly visible campaigns come out for prostate cancer awareness. Unfortunately, breats are way more sexy than prostates, and sex sells in America.
on all points. It's not "manly" to have someone check out your prostate - most avoid it at all costs. Even myself, knowing that I am genetically predisposed to this disease was happy to know I didn't need to be checked until age 45. Now that they've updated the information to say I should have been getting it done every two years since age 30, I realize I could have been at risk all along.
There is VERY limited awareness out there. Most people don't know Prostate cancer is the #1 cancer for men!!
Spread the word, 'Mo Bros!
Totally on board. Let's get team t-shirts.
Maybe we can convince the guys who make the MGo gear to design something we can buy...who handles that?
MGo-for the Cure
Moustache Rides - It's a Twosie (submitted tongue in cheek of course!)
For men, the lifetime risk of getting cancer is roughly 1 in 2 and the risk of dying of it is 1 in 4. I think your efforts are great. Prostate cancer is a serious problem, and serious problems take research to solve. As one of many people who studies cancer for a living (lung, not prostate), I've noticed the way in which cancer changes people's lives like no other disease, and the way in which people whose lives are touched by cancer are really motivated to help in the search for the cure. Hopefully there will be a cure in the future, but without people who are willing to raise money and donate, it will be much harder. I'll be shaving the beard and growing with the mustache with some of my labmates in Movember.
news! Glad you are willing to 'stache it up in the name of a good cause! :)