OT: Meeting Minutes from Big East after 2003 ACC raid

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OT: Meeting Minutes from Big East after 2003 ACC raid

Very interesting look into the Big East meetings that took place after the first ACC raid of the Big East in 2003.

July 2003:  http://mysite.verizon.net/fethrs/Minutes%20July%202003.pdf

October 2003:  http://mysite.verizon.net/fethrs/Minutes%20October%202003.pdf

They discuss conference models for between 8 and 16 teams, and which teams to add.  After the July meeting, Mike Tranghese approached ND, SU Chancellor Ken Shaw approached Penn State about joining the Big East.

These meetings took place after Miami and VT left, note that Boston College had not left the BE yet.

It was the SU Chancellor that proposed the $5M exit fee and 27-month notice to leave that SU and Pitt are trying to get out of.

The best line though is "We as a group genuinely believe that the break-up of the Big East Conference is inevitable -- and probably the best overall scenario for all parties concerned" and then goes on to discuss the football and basketball-only schools breaking up.

Interesting reads.

 

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September 26th, 2011 at 4:47 PM | Wow! (Score:1)
NorthSideBlueFan
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Talk about inflated self worth. It takes some serious balls to ask Penn State to join up and leave the Big Ten.

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September 26th, 2011 at 4:59 PM | I dono, maybe they would pull (Score:1 Normal)
orobs
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I dono, maybe they would pull a notre dame and say they'd join a crap conference like the ACC since they know they're scared to compete in the B1G

September 26th, 2011 at 5:13 PM | PSU is just a sleeping giant (Score:2 Normal)
cbuswolverine
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PSU is just a sleeping giant waiting for JoePa to move on.  With the right hire, they'll be consistently great again.

September 26th, 2011 at 5:28 PM | either that or relegated to (Score:1 Normal)
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either that or relegated to mediocrity. what real advantages does psu have to ensure future success? i know penn state is a national brand, but so much of that brand is tied to joepa, it may not have the same draw once he's gone.

September 26th, 2011 at 5:38 PM | A strong tradition combined (Score:4 Normal)
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A strong tradition combined with a very strong home recruiting state—Pennsylvania consistently puts out talent. Plus, they're right next to another recruiting hotbed in Ohio and also are the closest B1G school to the East Coast. Penn State has a lot going for them recruiting-wise if they can get the right coach in place.

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September 26th, 2011 at 6:28 PM | Yep (Score:2 Normal)
cbuswolverine
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Forbes named them the third most valuable NCAA football team.  They have the second largest stadium in college football.  Massive, rabid fan base, etc etc

PSU isn't going anywhere.

September 26th, 2011 at 6:45 PM | All solid points, but most (Score:1 Normal)
wildbackdunesman
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All solid points, but most importantly....they won't have to play MICHIGAN every year being in the "Leaders Division".

September 26th, 2011 at 9:29 PM | They own NJ too which (Score:1)
M-Dog
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They own NJ too which produces talent every year.

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September 26th, 2011 at 6:19 PM | You haven't been to Happy (Score:1 Normal)
cbuswolverine
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You haven't been to Happy Valley, have you?

September 26th, 2011 at 6:45 PM | Given the money that the B1G (Score:1 Normal)
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Given the money that the B1G generates, PSU would would be absolutely insane to leave, particularly for the Big East. There are hundreds of millions of reasons why the Big Ten is the most stable and secure athletic conference, and those reasons are all the same: dead presidents.  

September 26th, 2011 at 4:50 PM | The last lines of the second (Score:1 Normal)
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The last lines of the second document reference a "Michigan Issue (Big Ten)". Anyone know what they meant?

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September 26th, 2011 at 4:55 PM | It's about the use of Big (Score:2 Normal)
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It's about the use of Big East officials for Michigan-Notre Dame games.

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September 26th, 2011 at 4:59 PM | When I clicked on this link, (Score:1 Normal)
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I thought for sure that it was going to be another one of those home-made subtitle scripts to the bunker scene from "Downfall."

Anyway, what's so bad about Penn State being shunted off to the ACC?  The best thing for them, really.

 

 

 

September 26th, 2011 at 9:49 PM | PSU is here to stay...just (Score:1)
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PSU is here to stay...just deal with it. The contribute a powerful brand, a great recruiting hotbed, east coast TV sets, Tradition, better academics, and rabid fan base. Just deal with it. The Big Ten is better with them

September 26th, 2011 at 11:53 PM | Aren't PSU fans the ones (Score:2 Normal)
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Aren't PSU fans the ones saying how much they want to leave? I'm happy with them in the Big 10, just think its funny how that fanbase got used to "dominance" based on beating up Syracuse, BC, Rutgers, and Maryland every year.

September 26th, 2011 at 5:13 PM | The idea of a CUSA/Big East (Score:1 Normal)
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The idea of a CUSA/Big East merger may not be a bad idea, at least for football. The basketball-only schools are really dragging the football side down, and if the Big East loses its AQ bid anyway, a football-only alliance may be the best answer.

September 26th, 2011 at 5:14 PM | Very interesting (Score:1 Normal)
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How did these documents make it to the internet?

September 26th, 2011 at 5:19 PM | It was evidence in Boston (Score:1 Normal)
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It was evidence in Boston College's lawsuit against the Big East when they ultimately left for the ACC.

http://mysite.verizon.net/fethrs/

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September 26th, 2011 at 5:24 PM | Funny (Score:1 Normal)
jmblue
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On page 6 of the first document, the word "consensus" is misspelled (as "concensus") twice in the same paragraph.

September 26th, 2011 at 5:52 PM | Introducing The New Big East? (Score:1 Normal)
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"Ladies and gentlemen, the Viscount Conference....."

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September 26th, 2011 at 6:10 PM | I was REALLY REALLY REALLY (Score:1 Trolling)
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I was REALLY REALLY REALLY hoping for a link to another meeting of the Octonion...

http://www.nunesmagician.com/section/the-octonion

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September 26th, 2011 at 6:14 PM | Many deepest and most profoundest thanks for that link. (Score:1 Normal)
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It never, ever fails.  You start with "mascot," and it is going to end badly.

 

 

September 29th, 2011 at 11:00 AM | The latest Octonion.  The (Score:1)
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The latest Octonion.  The best one yet.

http://www.nunesmagician.com/2011/9/29/2456641/the-octonion-syracuse-pit...

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Space bitches, space.

September 26th, 2011 at 8:35 PM | Word on the street is that (Score:2 Normal)
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Word on the street is that there's another one in the works for Otto to bid farewell to the Big East.

Rainbows and sprinkles!

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September 26th, 2011 at 9:40 PM | What a mess.  Basketball (Score:2 Normal)
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What a mess.  Basketball schools this, Football schools that.   Is it any wonder that incoherent junkyard fell apart?

 

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