#1 IU escapes on poor clock mgt. and FT shooting by #4 MSU at the end.
#2 Miami wins on a last second Derp rom UVA.
#4 MSU: see above.
#5 UF loses to unranked Mizzou after blowing (2) 10+ pt. leads.
The #1 seeds are there for the taking; March will truly be Madness.
EDIT: I see there are (2) similar threads on the topic. Mods feel free to edit or merge.
a 16 seed eventually has to
Don't say that when Michigan
Don't say that when Michigan has a good chance to be one.
I say
We are all big Miami fans right now. If we stay at the 2 line, then we want them to be the 1 in that region
Who even cares if we get a 1
Who even cares if we get a 1 seed at this point. The top 10 at least are all pretty even and anyone can be beaten on a neutral court, moreso this year than ever. A 2 or even a 3 seed is more than sufficient. It's all about matchups, which pretty much comes down to luck.
"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.
-Craig Roh 10/29/2011
Anyone remember
How easy it all seemed before the conference season?
Not only can anyone be beaten on a neutral court, but I can't wait to get back to some of the teams that conferences besides the B1G think are good.
Anyone remember
when we weren't even guaranteed a bid to the NCAA tournament??? Now we are talking top three seed? Times have changed! And for the better. Except for the poor East Lansing couches....
Yes, it's all about matchups,
Yes, it's all about matchups, but when you're a #1 seed, you're more likely to get favorable matchups than you are anywhere else. Over the years, #1 seeds have significantly more likely to make the Final Four than #2 seeds, and much more likely than #3 seeds.
Ok honestly Miami is not that
Ok honestly Miami is not that good. They are barely beating teams in the acc. Virginia by 2 at home? Clemson 46-44? Are you kidding? Get them out of the top 5.
They go to Duke on 3/2
If they lose that game, then goodbye #1 seed. They're not winning the ACC tournament.
3 losses
With wins against NC State, Duke and lil bro. Yeah they suck.
My roommate
Will try to convince anyone who'll listen that uva, his alma mater, is legit. Not sure I believe him yet
Mike Martin told me he loves me. My life is quite possibly complete.
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If nothing else, they're a
If nothing else, they're a Wisconsin-level PITA to play against (which makes sense given Bennet's background).
Maybe they or Gonzaga can be
Maybe they or Gonzaga can be the first 1-seed(s) to lose to a 16. They both keep improving their record by barely beating sub-par competition. Both are good, but I don't think either is top 5 or maybe top 10 outfit
fine with this
Helps Michigan get itself back in a good position to snag a #1 seed. May still have to beat both IU and MSU for that, as the rest of our remaining schedule isn't very strong, but its doable.
It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk
It's definitely doable.
It's definitely doable.
We Do Seem To Be Eating Our Own.
But, I wasn't impressed with miami or florida tonight.
L.S.A. '88
Florida has played three
Florida has played three close games this year and they've lost every one of them. This is the second time this year they've collapsed down the stretch and blown big leads to lose. They're very suspect.
I'm alright
with Florida considering its on the road against a solid Missouri team. Their number one concern at this point should be depth considering they only went two or three deep off the bench tonight... Miami on the other hand is highly overrated considering how they have handled mediocre competition in the ACC (Other than Duke).
2013 will be the year.
Lunardi's new top line is
Indiana (MW), Duke(E), Miami(S), Gonzaga(W)
Nothing major. Just his latest "if the season ended at 11:40PM ET" projection.
So...
Lunardi thinks the B16 is the best conference and he snubs it by having two ACC teams as 1 seeds. Pardon my French, but what an asshole.
And Gonzaga?!?!? They couldn't hang with our top 5 teams in conference. Even OSU and Wisky would crush them.
Lunardi
is going strictly by what has happened in the past one to three weeks... Michigan has been losing, while Duke and Miami have been winning... And Gonzaga still hasn't lost since Butler. Seems about right at this point basing it strictly off of records and past couple of games.
2013 will be the year.
That's the problem this year
You look at the B1G, and you see all the top teams with 3 or 4 conference losses. You say, I can't rank these guys higher, even though the teams they lost to are also top teams with 3 or 4 conference losses. The conference sniping is a drain on the rankings.
HOWEVA, I think if we can win out the remainder of the regular season, and Indana does the same save the finale against us, the Big will end up with two 1's (M and IU), a 2 (MSU), a 5 (OSU), a 6 (Wisky), and three mixed between 7 and 10 with Illinois, Minny and Iowa.
I see no problems with 8 for the B1G this year. It's such a killer that I figure 7-9, no more than two OOC losses and a quality win or two will do it.
It works for the SEC in
It works for the SEC in football.
Very true
B1G's seven+ loss Illinois defeated Gonzaga on their home floor.
The 1 seed would be big for
The 1 seed would be big for our national presence. If we win some games to finish the year and make a run in the big ten tourney, we will get one. Go Blue; excited to watch.
1 seed would be cool, but the
1 seed would be cool, but the top teams are getting the best shot game after game. I'd rather not have the opponents be able to get hyped up over playing against a number 1 seed. 2 or 3 would be just fine. 1 & 2 in the Big Ten will get #1s, I think that is pretty much a given.
Although I kind of agree when
Although I kind of agree when it comes to rankings I totally disagree that a team is more likely to be fired up to play a 1 seed in the tournament than they would be to play a 3 seed. This is the end all be all we are talking about. The only way I see a team more pumped up to play a certain team over another in the tournament is if they are rivals or have a history (ie lost to opponent early in season, lost to same team in previous tournaments).
If you spell Crisler like the car company you should hand in your fan card before the next meeting.... Same goes for Ferry Field
Add in that there seems to be
Add in that there seems to be a pretty significant talent drop off after the top 12 and there's a definite advantage in being a top seed this year, and avoiding the 2-3 game (if seeds hold) in the sweet 16. Just going on Lunardi's latest, you're looking at playing 3-seeds Louisville, Arizona, Kansas or New Mexico in the Sweet 16 if you're a 2 seed, versus Okie State, K State, Marquette or G'town if you're a 1.
So with these loses so far it
So with these loses so far it puts us back in the top 5 with a win on Sunday.
USING GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF CAPS LOCK SINCE APRIL 2011
Jesus, during football season
Jesus, during football season isn't it terrible when SEC homers emphatically vow that X top team in a lesser conference wouldn't finish in the top half of the SEC and use it as evidence that they shouldn't get a BCS bid?
Well, now that Gonzaga, who lost to a middling Illinois team at home will quite possibly get a higher seed than us, I kind of know how they feel.
Not Jesus, but...
...what you post makes sense. The difference for me is that unlike the SEC in some years, B1G teams from top to bottom actually played and won some real OOC games.
Sorry for the hijack, but
Sorry for the hijack, but when has SEC EVAR played a touch OOC game? Not counting the Bama/UM game last year..
LSU 2011: Oregon @ Jerrydome,
LSU 2011: Oregon @ Jerrydome, @ West Virginia
Alabama's played in other kickoff games against IIRC Clemson and Va Tech, and played a home and home against Penn State.
Florida annually against FSU; South Carolina annually against Clemson (not sure if these count).
Georgia played Boise St. (and lost)
Arkansas played recent series with USC and Texas A&M (before they joined the SEC)
Even Auburn, who's perenially been one of the culprits, had recent series against Clemson and USC.
I think the real criticism is that they mostly play OOC games against the ACC, which has perenially underachieved and which means they rarely travel outside the South.
EDIT: And if you think about it, the Big Ten is just as bad if not worse. We usually play one tough OOC game against ND and three variations on tomato can depending on how you feel about UConn. OSU plays one. PSU sometimes plays one tough OOC game, often none. Wisconsin never plays anyone OOC. Nebraska's been playing a mid-tier Pac 12 team. Looking forward, it's pretty unquestionable that the most aggressive OOC scheduler in the league is ... MSU. Annual series against ND that continues into the future and scheduled series against Oregon, Boise, and Alabama.
meaning of "cray"
Is probably not what you think it is. Give her a go on Google and you'll be surprised
I Believe...
...the original reference is from a rap song and refers to the Kray brothers; a couple English criminals with bad tempers. At least that's how they were portrayed in the movie. Over time the saying has morphed into a synonym for crazy. At least that's how I've seen it used.
L.S.A. '88
Exactly
Exactly, it doesn't mean "crazy". I would have posted a link, but I was on the phone and it was a hassle.
Urban Dictionary
I am assuming #2 in the below link this is how it was intended to be used.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cray
I will go on a limb here
If Gonzaga is a 1, I can see a 16 seed beating them. They just dont impress me that much.
Go Blue!
You have to remember though -
You have to remember though - the #16 seeds are bad teams that happened to win their conference tournament. Most of them wouldn't have been good enough to get an NIT bid. Any halfway decent tournament team would be a big favorite against a #16 seed.
Please
Please God eliminate Cray from the slang dictionary. Tired of hearing my 9-year old tell me something is Cray-Cray.
Take heed - it's dying out.
Take heed - it's dying out. The high schoolers I'm around don't say it anymore.
CoE Class of 2007
I think IU makes the final
I think IU makes the final four but after that I can't see any other one seed make it. I can see this year being absolutely absurd. It wouldn't be surprising to me if the if there were 2 double digit seeds that get there. I can't wait
There is god, there is family, and then there is MICHIGAN FOOTBALL
Im sorry Miami is not
Im sorry Miami is not impressive it all, I don't care if they only have 3 loses. They are not that good of a team. It's in the eye test, they lost to Florida Gulf Coast, so I'm pretty sure theres a good chance they could lose to a 16 seed.
a 16 seed eventually has to beat a 1 seed right? THIS IS THE YEAR!
3-3-5 til the day I die y'all