Go hike the John Muir Trail this summer. I promise you'll lose at least that in 3 to 4 weeks.
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Go hike the John Muir Trail this summer. I promise you'll lose at least that in 3 to 4 weeks.
Unless he's simply not eating, he won't lose 16 pounds in three weeks.
Only way an athlete loses 16 lbs in 3 weeks is by being sick, or a dad diet.
Me becoming a dad is the reason why I need to lose weight.
He only eats Dads? That doesn't sound pleasant.
disagree. i hiked the JMT last summer and lost between 15 and 20 pounds over exactly 3 weeks. when you're hiking ~12 miles a day with 40 lbs on your back at high elevation with significant eleveation gains and losses every day, you simply cannot take in (or carry!) enough calories to maintain weight.
and i wasn't exactly a big dude to start with or anything. starting at 5'9" 170lbs, losing that much weight represents a pretty significant percentage.
Just looked it up. Seems dangerous but count me in.
just watch out for the bears, you'll be fine.
Cut out the roids, dude
Lost in the most recent baseball PED thing was the fact that all of these guys had been passing every MLB drug test all along. MLB came down hard on them but I think it was a lot of show to cover for the fact that they couldn't detect them at all without a whistle-blower. Max just needs to get on a better program..
...on them at all, except by their own extraordinarily low standards. A 162 game suspension in baseball is less than half of the two year USOC suspension for a first time minor offense.
Good to get off the roids max. Wonder how Denard will fare without them?
It seems you are missing a very important n.
I am so sorry, you're right. Bad mistake on my part.
When you are that active (as college football players are), the "munchies" are not going to add that much weight. Especially once you add in the fact that he was in great shape and not fat.
At least we know it's not cocaine...
MSU wouldn't suspend him for the rose bowl for rollin a doobie
I asked this question before and the answer I got was Dennard. But what defensive players from MSU have gone on to be stars in the NFL since dantonio started as a coach there? We talk about talent development but that talent isn't in the NFL necessarily. Our defenses were miserable and we still put out Stevie brown, and mike Martin. I just find that odd but I might be missing someone obvious.
If it was academic it would have been announced, if it was an arrest it would be known and if it is conduct it would be under conduct detrimental. The level of cloak and dagger is weird. Even if it was drugs you can say conduct unbecoming. It's just odd...and frankly unnecessary. They find out at the combine and it will be known. The only reason has to be program facing which makes all of us more curious than we need be.
Saying all that - MSU has a great defense and I'm pretty sure that it's not because they are ALL cycling andresteinedione.
I don't think it's PEDs. I've heard from a fairly confident source that he had Oxy in his system.
The only thing that seems odd is how he has lost 16 pounds in such a short time frame. He obviuosly is still working out because he wants to be drafted. So what has changed that has made him lose so much weight? It isn't the stoppage of using Oxy.
There is no greater weight loss inducer than stress. Bullough was captain of the best Spartan team in forever, a renowned All-America LB, the face of Spartan football for 3 years, and 3rd generation legacy. Pissing that all away by embarrassing the school and himself, putting his team's image in jeopardy, and likely costing himself a few bucks in the draft probably brought on a hefty dose of stress.
He would have been most stressed from he bowl game on, but he lost this weight in the past few weeks alone (from the e-w shrine game).
With the PED withdrawal symptoms. It's a vicious cycle.
opens the door for "why" (that could be PEDs) and "how" (then he has to address the source). Then he could be asked about cycling PEDs and long term use.
Oxy seems like a safer answer than PEDs, until the subsequent questions. Then he could be in the scenario of admitting Oxy and PEDs.
A good PR person would still tell him to come clean and put it behind him.
Who is your source?
Wait the big ten doesn't UDT for controlled substances? That's impossible. If it was oxy, adderall etc that would be public knowledge because he would be suspended by the league right? Oxy is a level 2 narcotic - if he is taking it without a script from a physician that's not kosher and in many states illegal. If it is a script from a doc then no need to suspend him.
Am I right on that Read your Guard? If it's OxyContin and the kid doesn't have a script the police get involved. In a lot of states there is a PDP that has to be registered.
To me oxy in a random screen would be a huge flag to get the kid help like we did for stonum. The odds of only short term use being picked up on a screen especially oxy that needs a confirmatory sample is low. If they had genuine concern he would be in a program - which is really hard to keep a secret because it's not institutional.
Knowing nothing other than the posting history of Read your Guard I believe him. He's not one to post rumor and innuendo unless it's extremely well sourced rumor and innuendo.
Serioulsy though I dont think I've ever read a rumor posted by RYG so that's good enough for me. And his take on stress related weight loss is extremely accurate too. More so than a missed cycle of roids causing that extreme of weight loss. Because the flip side to weight loss when under stress is weight gain and I'm pretty sure max didnt play this season as heavy as he weighed in at during the Shriine game.
Stress induced weight loss is certainly a possibility as could be a desire to dial in with "good weight" for the combine to perform for the NFL.
The steroid thesis is absolutely viable though. As one who works in physical science and research I'd be confident that his sort of weight loss could certainly occur with cycles cut since December. In that time framed his muscle mass would slowly start to decrease (every day each of us are either adding or subtracting) without the PED and at his size 6-7% in 8 weeks is reasonable.
Guy should man up and answer the question but aim sure he doesn't want the world to know that team were " Spartan Frauds" like the Mandarich era.
much of the conjecture in this thread, at least with respect to PED's and some other illicit substances, is that the B10 did, in fact, test everyone on the travelling roster for the B10 Title game (including Bullough)...That was how Spence got his 3-game suspension for, as he essentially put it, "getting slipped a micky!"
an asshole for hoping he gets busted and this, at a minimum, casts a very dark cloud over the entire MSU football program?
MSU is up to something. Just a matter of time before a story breaks
So we've gone from one guy taking drugs to an entire University being complicit?
Developin' 3 stars...coachin' em up
Malik's Momma was right.
No but I believe the football program is using steroids, would it be the first time?
What a coward. He's hiding behind the line "it's a personal issue, I'm moving on"
Who is giving this dunce advice? Certainly not anyone smart. So now he's letting other people control his life instead of him standing up, explaining himself fully, then all is forgiven, let's move on.
Why is this sooooo top seceret? It's not something criminal or else there would be a police investigation. So just come clean one time and try to get your reputation back.
other than a failed drug test by Bullough? For two months the rumor of steroids / oxy / Adderall have floated around Max and no one has dispelled them.
"I'm not going to talk about it" with a defensive cadence seems like a horrible response with two months to prepare for the very question.
When I attended the Michigan HS coaches clinic back about a month ago I was talking with a couple of the position coaches from St. Francis up in TC. Coaches were constantly asking them if they knew what was going on with Max. From what I heard they seemed fairly adamant that Dantonio ha to suspend Max for signing with an agent too early. The excuse has never really sounded like a great one to me, but as of today it is the only one I have heard from anything close to a credible source that is consistent. Take it for what it's worth.
guidance because that is a simple answer and nowhere near the character issues associated with drugs. I also believe MSU has to file the incident of agent interference with the NCAA and it's not a matter protected by any secrecy cloak at the NCAA.
His weight on the official MSU roster is 245, so he probably just got out of shape after his suspension to get up to the 260s.
Me too. It appears Max is "standing his ground" and it's nobody's business but his.
told Max to get on the cycle, how was Max to know he meant the exercise cycle and not his HGH cycle?
How are Bullough and Staee benefiting from keeping it quiet? It seems the speculation is worse. Just come out with it and eventually it will die.
If it's PEDs and it's institutional as some suspect they are exposed as cheaters. That seems pretty obvious.
I happen to think they've been juicing since the Tom Gholston days.
Don't know if that's true, but it's possible there is a systemic issue. The secrecy just leads you to believe somthing more than an individual player making a bad decision is involved here.